HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-13-2007 Minutes Minutes of the Special Session of the
CITY OF OCOEE GENERAL EMPLOYEES' PENSION BOARD
Held on December 13, 2007
At 150 N. Lakeshore Drive
Ocoee, FL 34761
AGENDA ITEM I. CALL TO ORDER—Chairman Wagner
A. Chairman Russ Wagner called the meeting to order at 10:07 a.m. in the Commission
Chambers in City Hall.
The roll was called and a quorum declared present.
Present were Trustees Terry Reed, Jean Grafton, Russ Wagner and Tom Hendrix.
Absent was Trustee Wendy West.
Also present were H. Lee Denner, Attorney; Joe Bogdahn and Michael Welker, Bogdahn
Consulting.
AGENDA ITEM II. NEW BUSINESS
A. Discussion/Selection of Money Managers—Bogdahn Consulting,LLC
Joe Bogdahn handed out the Investment Manager Search to the Board. He went over the
document and talked about strategy. Mike Welker then spoke about the Plans performance for
Cif fiscal year ending September 30, 2007. Mr. Welker said the good news is the portfolio was up
15.6%net of investment related fees; however, the longer term had some under performance. He
said the bad news is our plan was highly allocated for Equities. Mike Welker said there are a lot
of different styles and went on to explain.
Mike Welker then spoke about the Core Managers and said he would help the Board narrow
down the selection. Discussion ensued. Mr. Welker summarized how they developed the short
list of Managers and continued with the presentation. He asked if the Board had any questions
and went on to say that he likes the mix of two opportunistic Core Managers. Chairman Wagner
stated he liked the blend because of the discussion about them balancing against each other. Joe
Bogdahn then suggested blending ICC Capital and Rockwood together and said he could give
the Board some numbers. Discussion ensued. Trustee Grafton asked if Bogdahn had compared
Trusco's figures. Joe Bogdahn stated they had compared Trusco and went on to explain why
they didn't recommend them.
Mike Welker continued to go over the handout moving on to the Value section. Mr. Welker said
the best Manager was Fifth Third as far as being a true opportunistic Manager was concerned.
He continued with the presentation. Mike Welker said Fifth Third and Snow were the best
options if they liked the All Cap approach. Chairman Wagner asked if they were recommending
two Managers, to which Mike Welker stated no. He said they were only recommending one
dedicated All Cap Manager and said Firth Third or Snow would be the best options. Chairman
Wagner asked why they were recommending two Core Managers. Mr. Welker explained and
discussion ensued. Trustee Grafton asked Mr. Welker to explain about the process they used to
come up with these Managers like he did with the Core Managers. Mike Welker went on to
explain and continued with the presentation.
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Chairman Wagner asked Mike Welker to briefly go over the Growth section of the handout.
Cry Mike Welker said they do not like Small Cap Growth because it has way too much volatility and
not enough return. He said these Managers being presented are Large and Mid Cap Managers
and each one is a true Growth Manager. Mr. Welker continued with the presentation.
Discussion ensued and it was suggested that four Managers be brought in to interview.
Mike Welker then moved on to the Fixed Income section of the handout and explained the
differences in the Managers. Discussion ensued. Attorney Denner recommended the Board
interview two or possibly three Managers. Mr. Welker said he would recommend Agincourt and
Galliard or Galliard and Integrity. Further discussion ensued. Chairman Wagner asked the
Board if they wanted to interview a couple of Managers and it was agreed they would interview
Agincourt and Galliard.
Mike Welker continued with the International section. He said Baring & Voyageur are a
wonderful mix and went on to explain why. Mr. Welker continued with the presentation. He
said the Board would not have to rush on this selection since the Ordinance hasn't been adopted
yet. He said they could still bring the Managers in to give a presentation and then wait until the
Ordinance has been changed and in the interim maybe go to an International Index Fund.
Chairman Wagner asked if the Board would pick only one Manager, to which Mike Welker
stated the Board could pick two and went on to explain.
Chairman Wagner inquired about being able to get all the Managers here if the Board decided to
do the interviews during one meeting. Further discussion ensued regarding the selections and
CY after discussing schedules, a decision was made to hold the meeting on Friday, January 18, 2008
at 8:30 a.m. Chairman Wagner later requested a notice be sent out early to employees in case
they wanted to attend.
B. Approve Certification Training for Plan Administrator(CAPPP Certification Program
in February & November 2008)—Jim Carnicella, Plan Administrator
I n a motion made by Trustee Hendrix, seconded by Trustee Grafton, unanimously
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RESOLVED to approve payment of Plan Administrator Carnicella's Certification
Training and travel expenses for attendance at the International Foundation
CAPPP Certification Program being held on February 23 & 24, 2008 and half the
associated expenses of the November 15 & 16, 2008 Certification Program (the City
11\ will be asked to pay the other half).
AGENDA ITEM III. ADJOURN
There being no other business, the meeting was adjourned at 12 noon.
Respectfully submitted by Appr-. :4 by: L a
Debbie Bertling
HR Analyst Russell B. Wagner, C airman