HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-06-2008 Minutes Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the
CITY OF OCOEE GENERAL EMPLOYEES' PENSION BOARD
Held on August 6, 2008
At 150 N. Lakeshore Drive
Ocoee, FL 34761
AGENDA ITEM I. CALL TO ORDER—Vice Chairman Terry Reed
A. Vice Chairman Terry Reed called the meeting to order at 10:02 a.m. in the Commission
Chambers in City Hall.
The roll was called and a quorum declared present.
Present were Trustees Jean Grafton, Terry Reed and Wendy West.
Absent were Trustees Russ Wagner and Tom Hendrix
Also present were H. Lee Dehner, Attorney; Jim Carnicella, Human Resources Director/Plan
Administrator; Mike Welker and Tim Nash, Bogdahn Consulting.
B. Approval of Minutes from Special Session dated January 18, 2008 and Minutes from
Regular Session dated February 13, 2008
Vice Chairman Reed called for review of the Minutes as stated. There being no additions or
corrections, it was, on motion made by Trustee Grafton, seconded by Trustee West,
unanimously
RESOLVED that the Minutes of the Special Session of the Board of Trustees of the
General Employees' Pension Board of January 18, 2008 and Minutes of the Regular
Session of the Board of Trustees of the General Employees' Pension Board of
February 13,2008, be and are hereby approved.
AGENDA ITEM II. NEW BUSINESS
A. Investment Consultant Report—Mike Welker, Bogdahn Consulting, LLC
Mike Welker started by introducing Tim Nash. Mr. Welker said Tim Nash was new at Bogdahn
and said he will be a nice addition to their firm. Mike Welker then began to go over the
Performance Review for the Second Quarter of 2008. He said the second quarter was not a very
good quarter and for the most part the broad market was down about a little over 2%. He said
Value got hurt again because of financials but Growth did much better and was led by the Mid&
Small-Cap Growth area. He reminded the Board why they hired the two Managers they did for
the Growth part. Mr. Welker said there is just over $15 million in the fund and went over the
asset allocation of the portfolio. He continued going over the report and said the new Manager
structure was all up and running by July so the next quarter report will show how performance is
with all of them in place.
Mike Welker then went over the performance of the fund in detail. He reported the total fund,
net of fees, for the quarter was down .51%, so it was not too bad with all things considered. He
stated the portfolio was in the 35th percentile, beating the majority of their piers, and said the
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index was in the 62nd percentile. He continued and said they believe this year was going to be a
,,. bad year but reminded the Board that the changes they made did a nice job preserving capital
better than what the market did. He asked if there were any questions.
Mike Welker then spoke about the International side. He said if there were no questions
regarding the performance there was an issue he would like to go back to concerning the
International piece. He reported they were good to go with Voyageur but said if they couldn't
come to terms with Barings he suggests the Board do a new Manager search. He said the reason
is because Voyageur and Barings were a great compliment to each other due to their different
styles and went on to explain. Discussion ensued between Mr. Welker and Attorney Dehner
regarding the side agreement with Barings. Mike Welker said if they can't do the side
agreement, he would come back to the next meeting with some Managers that can be the sole
International Manager or might look at one that would complement Voyageur on the Growth
side but will come back and have that discussion at the next meeting if it was necessary.
Mike Welker then handed out an Investment Policy Statement dated August 6, 2008. He also
handed out the Addendums to the Statement of Investment Policy for Voyageur, ICC Capital and
Rockwood. He said one change made in the Policy Statement concerning International Funds
was adding some language regarding pooled funds and went on to explain. Attorney Denner
asked Mr. Welker if he would take care of the filings, to which Mike Welker answered yes. On
motion made by Trustee Grafton, seconded by Trustee West, unanimously
RESOLVED that the Board of Trustees of the General Employees' Pension(arr pursuant to the recommendation of the Investment Consultant, adopt the
Investment Policy Statement amended August 6, 2008 and the Addendum to
Statement of Investment Policy for Voyageur Asset Management, the Addendum to
Statement of Investment Policy for ICC Capital Management, and the Addendum to
Statement of Investment Policy for Rockwood Capital Advisors, as presented by
Bogdahn Consulting.
After a brief break was taken to obtain the Board's signature on the documents, they moved on to
the next item.
B. Reappointment/Election of Board Members—Jim Carnicella, HR Director
Plan Administrator Carnicella spoke about the terms ending September 30, 2008 for the seats
currently held by Trustees Reed, Hendrix and West. He reported that the City Clerk's office has
already started the process of nominations for the Board seat currently held by Terry Reed,
which is elected by the employees. He stated the City Commission appoints the Board seat that
is currently held by Tom Hendrix and the other four Board Members appoint the one Wendy
West currently holds. Discussion ensued.
Trustee West asked if the Board ever settled the issue about being an employee for a certain
length of time before being eligible to become a Board Member. Jim Carnicella said that
Attorney Dehner sent him a copy of the Operating Rules and suggested they could address the
issue when the Board goes over them. After a brief discussion, Plan Administrator Carnicella
said he could come back to the Board with a recommendation. Trustee Grafton stated at this
point it would not affect the current election. Further discussion ensued. Jim Carnicella stated
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he also recommends the Board Members become certified and went on to explain why this
should be required. Discussion ensued.
Attorney Denner stated he checked the Ordinance and it provides that any Member is eligible to
be an elected Trustee so it would take an Ordinance amendment to make a change. He said with
respect to Trustee terms, the longer you can keep a Trustee and have an experienced one, the
better. He noted the term length of Trustees is currently two years and said he thought it would
be advisable to consider extending the length and stated this change would also take an
Ordinance amendment. Plan Administrator Carnicella asked if the Board could take action today
regarding direction to draft an Ordinance amendment for these changes, to which Attorney
Dehner stated yes. Discussion ensued. Attorney Dehner asked if the Board would like to have
the Ordinance amendment come back to them before going to the Commission for approval.
After some discussion, Plan Administrator Carnicella asked Attorney Dehner if the issue about
becoming certified would be something they would address in the Operating Rules. Attorney
Denner stated yes. Further discussion ensued.
Trustee Grafton mentioned she received a notice regarding FPPTA charging $100 to maintain
their certification. Plan Administrator Carnicella advised he was not going to continue
participating in FPPTA and thanked the Board for allowing him to be involved with International
Foundation, which he thought was more beneficial. Discussion ensued.
Plan Administrator Carnicella reminded the Board they needed to go back and finish the motion
and said he would bring back some recommendations regarding changes to the Operating Rules.
Mr. Carnicella said if they decided to move forward Attorney Denner could draft the Ordinance
and then he could have this done by the time they reorganized the Board. Further discussion
ensued. On motion made by Trustee West, seconded by Trustee Grafton, unanimously
RESOLVED to have Attorney Dehner draw up an Ordinance amendment to
require that employees be vested before being eligible to run for a seat on the
General Employees' Pension Board and to amend the term length a Board Member
serves from two years to five years.
AGENDA ITEM III. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Payment of Invoices
Invoices were included in the packet for the Board to approve. On motion made by Trustee
Grafton, seconded by Trustee West, unanimously
RESOLVED that the bills and other charges and fees be and are hereby approved
for payment as presented.
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B. Reminder to discuss meeting dates for next year.
Attorney Denner said his office prepares the meeting dates, coordinating with the consultants,
but it was in the works and his office will be sending the dates to the Board for their
consideration at the next meeting.
Trustee Grafton said before they move on with the meeting she had a question about whether the
Board adopted the Summary Plan Description at the last meeting, to which Attorney Denner and
Plan Administrator Carnicella both replied yes. Trustee Grafton stated she had a few red flags
and asked to address them. After Trustee Grafton asked for clarification on a few areas, Plan
Administrator Carnicella said he had some questions regarding re-employment after retirement.
Attorney Denner said they would need to amend a provision in the plan to address these issues
and went on to explain. Discussion ensued. Plan Administrator Carnicella suggested he would
take a close look at this issue and would come back to the Board with some recommendations.
Further discussion ensued. Trustee Grafton noted that the previous Summary Plan Description
had a paragraph at the bottom about keeping your beneficiary information up to date but didn't
see it on this document, to which Attorney Denner replied it was moved to the front page. Plan
Administrator Carnicella said he would like to have meetings with all the general employees,
pass this document out to them and have training in the next year to go over what their benefits
are and what their entitlements are. Mr. Carnicella noted that the document didn't refer to the
Plan Administrator anywhere and asked that they amend it in the future. After brief discussion
about the exhibits the Board moved on to the next item.
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AGENDA ITEM IV. ATTORNEY COMMENTS—H. Lee Dehner, Esq.
Attorney Denner said he just wanted to report on a couple things. He advised them of the
pending amendment to the Pension Protection Act, which would extend the $3000 pretax on
health insurance and long-term insurance exemption to all public employees and said he would
keep the Board posted. He said there was also one amendment to Chapter 112, which will affect
the administration of our plan relating to the section regarding forfeiture of pension benefits and
said hopefully we won't be confronted with it. He went on to explain. Attorney Denner then
spoke about federal compliance and said they were in the process of amending the plans to
comply with the changes. He said there have been many Ordinance amendments and suggested
they consider consolidation and restatement of everything in one document. Attorney Dehner
said once the compliance amendments have been made then he would like to discuss whether or
not the Board wants to file for a favorable determination letter with the IRS. He went on to
explain. Discussion ensued. Attorney Denner said there was also a proposed amendment to the
Florida Administrative Code and went on to explain.
Plan Administrator Carnicella asked if it was required to offer Retirees the employer's health
care plan when they retired, to which Attorney Dehner said yes but said it could be at their
expense. Plan Administrator asked if the health plan no longer had to be offered to someone
who was 65 or older. Attorney Dehner said he wasn't sure if it was required by statute.
Discussion ensued. Plan Administrator Carnicella asked that Attorney Denner check into the
issue of what they are required to do when the person becomes Medicare eligible, to which
Attorney Denner said he would but suggested Mr. Carnicella also check with someone that
works on the health benefits side. Further discussion ensued.
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,,, Attorney Definer said he had two other things to address. He advised the Board he and several
other Attorneys that represent a lot of the funds in Florida are having discussions about the
Merrill Lynch situation. He said there are three ways they can approach this situation but in any
event the beginning of the process would involve the determination of what our damages are and
the prospects for recovery of those damages. Discussion ensued. Attorney Dehner said the last
item was the communication he received from Plan Administrator Jim Carnicella concerning a
request for certain fund records relating to a Trustee. He said he communicated back to Mr.
Carnicella that the appropriate way to do this was for them to make a public record request and
said he contacted Mr. Van De Graaf and left a message to that affect but said he hadn't heard
anything back. Plan Administrator Carnicella said he spoke to Trustee Hendrix last night and
Mr. Hendrix indicated that he believed the issue was resolved. Brief discussion ensued.
Attorney Dehner reminded the Board to file their financial disclosure if they hadn't done so
already and spoke about the obligation of new Trustees. Plan Administrator Carnicella asked
Attorney Delmer if he was required to file a financial disclosure. After some discussion, Plan
Administrator Carnicella said he would check into it further. Attorney Dehner said it wouldn't
be a bad idea to go ahead and file.
AGENDA ITEM V. PLAN ADMNISTRATOR COMMENTS—Jim Carnicella
Plan Administrator Carnicella stated he had no other comments.
AGENDA ITEM VI. COMMENTS FROM TRUSTEES
Attorney Definer asked if the Summary Plan Description had been approved, to which Plan
Administrator Carnicella said it was approved at the last meeting with the changes that were
discussed. Trustee Grafton asked if the Summary Plan Description talked about elections, to
which Attorney Definer stated it was in the Operating Rules. Trustee Grafton asked if the City
Clerk was doing this election by the new Rules, to which Plan Administrator said he believed so
but would double check.
AGENDA ITEM VII. SET AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING •
Vice Chairman Reed stated the next meeting was scheduled for November 5, 2008. Plan
Administrator Carnicella said he should be bringing the Rules forward for them to look at and
recommendations for a possible Ordinance change to consider the re-employment issue.
AGENDA ITEM VIII. ADJOURN
There being no other business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:51 a.m.
Respectfully submitted by A: .r ved b .
Debbie Bertling , Cr' —
HR Analyst 'ussell B. Wagner, Chairman