HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-31-08 Workshop
CITY COMMISSION WORSHOP
RE: LOBBYIST-LEGISLATIVE ISSUES FOR 2008
Ocoee Commission Chambers
150 North Lakeshore Drive
Ocoee, Florida
January 31, 2008
I CALL TO ORDER
MINUTES
6:00 p.m.
Mayor Vandergrift called the work session to order at 6:01 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of
City Hall.
Present: Commissioner Hood, Commissioner Anderson, Mayor Vandergrift, Commissioner Keller,
and Commissioner Johnson.
Also Present: City Attorney Rosenthal, City Manager Frank, and City Clerk Eikenberry.
Guests: Fred Leonhardt and Robert Stewart with Gray Robinson, State Representative Bryan
Nelson, and Scott Dudley with the Florida League of Cities.
Mayor Vandergrift introduced Fred Leonhardt from Gray Robinson and turned the meeting
over to him.
I DISCUSSION RE: LEGISLATIVE MATTERS FOR 2008
Fred Leonhardt started out by saying that Gray Robinson was honored to work with the City
and to represent them legislatively. He said they will work with the City to answer any questions
they have and encouraged them to visit Tallahassee sometime during the Legislative Session
because "presence is power". He introduced another member of their lobby team, Robert
Stewart, to Commission and reported that he was not an attorney.
Commissioner Hood left the meeting at 6:04 p.m.
Scott Dudley, Florida League of Cities (LaC), thanked the City for their service and was proud
they were all involved with each other. He also encouraged the City Commission to get fully
engaged with the LaC and to attend meetings as they can. He discussed their priorities this year
as follows:
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Figuring out what will happen on the Property Tax Reform, and the
implementation of Amendment #1.
Transportation Issues dealing with funding and planning, and growth
management.
Affordable Housing such as mobile home parks.
Pension Issues.
Local Municipal Tax Issues.
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Amendment #1
Mr. Dudley was concerned about the impact of Amendment #1 and thought it was poorly
drafted; he felt that Legislature will struggle to implement the bill and to make some portions
work correctly. He said that after the May meeting, they will put some issues on the November
ballot regarding local government revenue caps because they are concerned they will have to
make up differences in user fees, impact fees, or other service-type fees. Working water-fronts
are a strong issue around the state, whereas they are trying to protect these areas and assess them
for the highest and best use. The Tax Budget Reform Commission has many ideas they are
looking into, such as table issues, taxpayer bill of rights issues, local government caps, class size
amendment, and many other issues that Commission should be aware of.
Transportation Issues
Mr. Dudley spoke of Transportation issues and the lack of funding. He said the F.D.O.T.
estimates a $2.4 billion deficit to maintain the current level of transportation, not including any
improvements. A big problem is that cities have no way to raise revenues for transportation
purposes; most revenues come from State or Federal matching. Through the County-Local
Option Fuel Taxes, the county gets to control the funding for transportation and the League of
Cities would like to change that. He explained that F.D.O.T. is cutting projects from their 5 year
work plan that they had committed to build, which may cause issues for the local municipalities
who are depending on those projects being funded.
Commissioner Anderson asked if we do our portion of Highway 50 and the county finishes it in
the next ten years, will we get reimbursed and would the LaC assist them in that. Mr. Dudley
said they assist with those types of efforts for cities in general, but your lobbyist would work
with your city directly. He advised the F.D.O.T. moved from allocating 60% of their funding to
75% to Strategic Intermodal System (SIS) roads such as 1-4, which is taking money from the
Urban Arterial Program. He explained that, because of the recent budget cuts, it will tough to get
funding from F.D.O.T. However, in regards to economic stimulus, road building is the best
because for every dollar spent, you get $6 worth of stimulus.
Mr. Dudley added that LOC is trying to get F.D.O.T. to accept city input on what will be cut, so
they would have to notify them when there is a change in capacity or would impact growth
management. Concurrency driven growth management laws are cumbersome and do not deter
urban sprawl; he said they need to encourage urban infill and some exemptions from the growth
management laws. He feels it is necessary to change laws that allow urban sprawl because we
are never going to build our way out of the current situation without changing the way we are
doing things. He thought it was necessary to ensure municipal representation and regional
planning issues ensuring that cities maintain control over their own Land Use Plan.
Affordable Housing
Mr. Dudley explained that the Sadowski Trust Fund has about $800+ million committed to
affordable housing for the cities and counties; however, the Legislature has only appropriated
about $250 million last year. He reported that they had gone into the fund and raided some of
the money to balance the budget. He clarified that Sadowski Trust Fund came from
Documentary Stamp Tax dollars as a commitment to fund affordable housing in the state, but
that commitment has not been kept on a regular basis.
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Mr. Dudley discussed the efforts to require local governments to pay for mobile home relocation
parts for rezoning; however, they have limited authority to deny rezoning request when they are
inconsistent with the local comp plan. LaC thinks there should be shared responsibility between
the developer, State, and City, whereas all parties can come together to rezone mobile home
parks.
Water Quality and Quantity
Mr. Dudley said these are huge issues with respect to the water quality. He reported that last
year the Government had cut about $25 million from the Water Sustainability Trust Fund, which
is used to help local governments build waste water treatment facilities and storm water
facilities. This year's Governor has proposed fully funding the Water Sustainability Trust Fund
and they wonder where that money would come from. He explained Water Quantity issues,
whereas they have to figure out ways to allocate the limited resource they have in respect to
water. When it comes to Water Quality issues, local governments are facing TMDL (Total
Maximum Daily Load) issues, essentially pollutant limitations imposed by the State and Federal
Government. Local municipalities have to be able to maintain and protect water quality.
Tax Increment Financing
Mr. Dudley said there was a Supreme Court issue (Strand vs. Escambia County) that ruled that
bonds financed by Tax Increment Financing/CRA's require approval by referendum. That rule
negated thirty years of law which permitted redevelopment bonding without referendum. LaC is
asking the Legislature to address that issue and clarify the law so they know for sure which bond
issues need to go for referendum and which do not.
Pension Issues
Mr. Dudley said there will be a big look by the House and Senator at local government pension
plans; there may be an effort to impose more requirements and unfunded mandates on those
issues. LaC thinks they have done a good job in local government to invest properly and have
dealt well with their pension plans. He stated they are addressing that anything subject to union
negotiations are not addressed by the Florida Legislature because Police and Fire personnel have
historically taken their issues to the state legislature when they can't get what they want at the
local level.
Mr. Dudley closed by emphasizing the importance of City Commission staying fully engaged in
the Legislative Session and announced a meeting on March 26, 2008, in Tallahassee. He stated
that in politics it is all about building relationships and they need to build one with their
Legislators and make contacts locally and in Tallahassee.
Mayor Vandergrift commented on global warming and told a story of finding an airplane that
had been 250 feet under ice for 50 years. He said that SJWMD proposed draining lakes and
rivers before draining under ground and thought that was a bad idea. Mr. Dudley thought our
government is trying to focus the discussion on energy independence and efficiency to conserve
our resources, although global warming is one of the key initiatives. One of LaC's priorities is
to allow a municipal representative on the government board for SJWMD so they are involved
with the decisions.
Commissioner Keller spoke about his effort to change the constitution and make City School
Districts. He said they were talking in Tallahassee about it with Sen. Gates and Rep. Flores. He
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said that Sen. Gates asked him to come back with his local Legislature putting the bill in and
they would then talk about it. He said they were looking at putting that into the four or five
largest school districts; however, he thought that was a mistake and they need to get a
constitutional amendment to allow the city school districts to be the smallest school district size.
Commissioner Keller said that OCPS has a $4.3 billion budget and that is too large for them to
keep up with. He stated that each School Board member had 31 schools in their district;
therefore, they cannot keep up with the other 186 schools within the school district. He believed
that putting it back at a city level charter school, running under the school board, would be better
because the parents would be closer to the schools. Mayor Vandergrift said the State passed a
law so that certain school districts could be exempt from municipalities being able to go to a
different authority for Charter Schools and Orange County received that exemption.
Fred Leonhardt introduced Senator Bryan Nelson and his wife. Senator Bryan Nelson said
that Fred was the best lobbyist in Florida, and Scott from LaC is a great champion for the cities.
He stated the Governor's budget takes a lot of trust monies out, even though the Constitution
says you can only raid 3% of trust funds and his budget is higher than that. He said that Mr.
Dudley could get more cities to champion the idea of smaller schools districts and they need
political allies to fight the game. He thought the city school district is a long shot, but he would
champion the issue either way they decide to go.
Senator Nelson spoke about the Red Light Camera Bill and said that Apopka is one of the few
cities with the cameras. He said they began giving out 200 tickets in the first month! He said
within the last month, they were down to only 40 tickets; therefore, it seems to be working. His
point was to make sure cities do not put that as budget line item because it is not much revenue.
He stated that Senator Baker would be putting something on the table to make it easier for cities
to put these red light cameras out. Mayor Vandergrift stated he was pushing toward using the
money from those tickets toward putting cameras into neighborhoods for safety reasons.
Senator Nelson discussed a new bill regarding the Property Appraiser, whereas physical
appraisals may be replaced with Google Earth. That would save about $50 million of tax payer
money. Also, the Bill will attempt to prevent homestead exemption fraud. He further mentioned
a Sexual Predator Bill they are working on to require the landlords of sexual predators to be held
more accountable. He explained a Ready to Work Bill, whereas high school kids who don't go
to college can go into technical training programs to gain some job skills to put them right into
the work force to make a good living.
Senator Nelson said he was working with LOC on a PURE (Protect the Urban and Residential
Environment) Water Bill. They would have a model ordinance for fertilizers, residential yards,
application rates, and education components of the issue, aimed at reducing nutrient runoff from
urban landscapes and to cut down on phosphorous. Another bill he discussed was an Insurance
Bill that suggested that everyone invest 10% of their IRA funds into the CAP fund. Mayor
Vandergrift said he received an email from James McAdams from Florida Dept. of Revenue
regarding the TRIM process. Mr. Dudley said that is an issue from LaC to try to make the
TRIM process easier, but they may have to hold off until next year due to prioritizing the bills.
Mayor Vandergrift inquired about T.V. rates and it seems like the State has given everything to
the cable companies now. He explained that they moved Ocoee TV to channel 200 and you have
to have digital cable to watch it, but you have to pay more to have digital cable and that is
absurd. Senator Nelson said they did pass a bill to allow more competition with both phone and
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cable companies. He said he is working with the next district over on transportation
infrastructure and the Highway 50 interchange. He said it may take 3-4 years to complete, but
they will get it done.
Commissioner Anderson asked about the Home Rule and said they could not do their millage
unless they did 100% to get the same millage as last time. He said if they are mandating these
things that they should pony up. They should say the City is losing money on millage, and they
are going to give funding to bridge the gap. Senator Nelson replied that no money was coming
out of Tallahassee that has not been spoken for.
Senator Nelson announced a Big Water Day at Lake Apopka on March 29, 2008, and that he
would appreciate any participation they could bring to that event.
Mayor Vandergrift read a newspaper article about voter pile up complaints and suggested
making elections a mandatory course in school.
Fred Leonhardt went over a few issues going on in Florida Government. He gave a
PowerPoint presentation and briefly touched on the following topics:
. Budget Shortfall: Governor released his $74 million budget and he went over
those recommendations, which need to go through the approval process.
. Amendment #1: Save Our Home benefit, portability, tangible personal property
exemption, 10% assessment cap for non-homesteads, etc. He said the results of
that vote in Ocoee just missed the 60% requirement.
. Red Light Cameras: Big issue last session and did well in the House, not so well
in the Senate. Probably will pass. Now would be a good time for Ocoee to adopt
an ordinance regarding the Red Light Cameras.
. Tax and Budget Reform Commission: Formed every 20 years and they can put
things directly onto the ballot this fall. They also have the authority to
recommend to Legislature, which only has to pass by majority. It will be
interesting to see them get 2/3 vote.
. Strategies for Success: Presence is Power. Being in Tallahassee and letting the
House and Senate hear from you is always more welcomed than hearing from a
lobbyist. Stay involved.
QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION
Commissioner Johnson said they used to spend a lot of time in Tallahassee and the Florida
League of Cities would really put on the pressure; it seems like that is not the case anymore.
Mr. Dudley said, since term limits have taken affect, lobbying has changed in general and
members are not looking at long term anymore. He strongly encouraged Commission to build
relationships with Tallahassee and he would help them along the way. He also thought the
regional league may reimburse some of those travel costs.
Commissioner Johnson agreed that they needed to get back into taking trips to Tallahassee and
get their faces seen. Fred Leonhardt said that getting groups to go would be very impactful.
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Mayor Vandergrift said there seems to be a fever to get Amendment # 1 passed. Mr. Dudley
said that fever has no end and there is still a sense that local government is spending crazy
money. Nobody knows how much of the spending is mandated by the State and County.
Commissioner Anderson asked what other things cities are doing, as far as fees, other than fire
service fees. He asked if there was a list that existed to provide that information. Mr. Dudley
said there were 412 municipalities in the State; they could give a snapshot, but it is not a
comprehensive list because it is a constantly moving target.
Mayor Vandergrift commented on how fiscally conservative he was and said that the larger the
government entity, the larger the percentage of their annual budget is wasted or misappropriated.
He said he cannot believe the State is trying to make the Cities appear to be fiscally
irresponsible. Commissioner Johnson said he sat on one of the boards for the State Committee
regarding the Sadowski Fund, which was supposed to help low income housing and it does not.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 7:37 p.m.
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S. Scott Vandergrift, Mayor
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