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City of Ocoee
Minutes of the Charter Review Commission
Meeting Held August 25, 2008
Call to Order
Chairperson Grafton
called the meeting to order at 6:39 p.m., in the Commission
Chairperson Grafton
Chambers of City Hall, located at 150 N. Lakeshore Drive. gave
Recording Clerk Moseley
the invocation and led the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
called roll and declared a quorum to be present.
Roll Call
Present:
Chairperson Grafton, Vice-Chair McKey, and Member Barnes, Member
Howell, and Member Amey. Also present were City Clerk Eikenberry,
City Attorney Nick Palmer, and Recording Clerk Moseley.
Absent:
None.
Approval of Minutes of August 11, 2008
City Attorney Palmer
stated that on page 2, under the discussion of Sections 61 & 62,
sentence 3 needed clarification. He explained that he stated “under the current Charter
the City Commission could elect to pick one, more than one, or all of the amendments
City Attorney Palmer
that are proposed to the City Commission.” stated that the
sentence, “City Attorney Palmer said they could not reject an amendment; however, they
have the authority to create a conflicting amendment if they desire.” needed to be moved
to the end of the paragraph, following his previous statement of “under the current
Charter, the City Commission could elect to pick one, more than one, or all of the
amendments that are proposed to the City Commission.” He then stated that it should
City Attorney Palmer
read, “ stated that he would reword the paragraph per the request
City
of the Charter Review Commission and bring a draft to the next meeting.”
Attorney Palmer
explained that the draft would reflect that the City Commission could
not selectively pick amendments that they would like on the ballot versus this
Commissions recommendation.
Member Howell, Member Barnes,
seconded by moved to approve the minutes of August
11, 2008, as corrected. Motion carried unanimously.
Review of the List of Charter Items to be Revisited (list attached)
City
The Charter Review Commission continued to review the current City’s Charter.
Attorney Palmer
provided examples of Charter Amendments from Orange County,
Altamonte Springs and Winter Park. He stated that wording in a few sections of Orange
City Attorney Palmer
County’s reflects what this Commission may be researching.
explained that one section allows the City Commission to add amendments and another
section allows the amendments from the Charter Review Commission to go straight on
Member Howell
the ballot without approval/rejection from the City Commission.
stated that the amendments would need to go before the City Commission for approval to
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City Attorney Palmer
be placed on a ballot. explained that this time, the Commission
would need to approve the item/s to the ballot, and if the referendum passes, then the next
Charter Review Commission would not need approval from the City Commission for the
amendment/s to be placed on a ballot.
Article I, Creation and Existence of Municipality
Item 1. Section 1. Topic: Preamble
Chairperson Grafton
stated that the Preamble has been previously agreed and the
Attorney is to draft the document.
Member Barnes, Vice-Chair McKey
seconded by , moved to use the preamble similar to
that of Winter Garden and have the Attorney create the document. Motion carried
unanimously.
Article II, Powers of the City.
Item 2. Section 8. Topic: C-8-AA: Add Reclaim to the paragraph.
Chairperson Grafton
reviewed past discussion on this item regarding C-8-AA. She
stated that the Attorney suggested a “clean-up” and only needed to change the sentence
wording.
Member BarnesVice-Chair McKey,
, seconded by moved to have the Attorney re-write
the section, and to add the wording or make broader. Motion carried unanimously.
Item 3. Section 8. Topic: C-8b 1 & 2 and C-8g, are dollar amounts still working or do
they need to be updated.; and
Item 4. Section 8. Topic: C-8-1&2, do current amounts in these sections need to be
updated? Continued discussion from 04-30-08.
Chairperson Grafton
stated that the Finance Director has reviewed this section and it
has no comments or changes. She also stated that the Commission has previously
addressed this Section.
Item 5. Section 8. Topic: Page C-11, Article I Section C-8-AA, Sewer and Water
Systems.
Chairperson Grafton
stated that this item has been taken care of previously.
Item 6. Section 8. Topic: Section C-8B, Page C7 Property Rights
Chairperson Grafton
said this item had been questioned at a past meeting by Resident
Lester Dabbs regarding a property being awarded to a church that was not the highest
Member Howell
bidder. had explained previously that the church was the second
highest bidder, but the first highest bidder had backed out and that is why the church was
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Member Barnes
awarded the bid back then. questioned if a lawsuit could be filed
Recording Clerk Moseley
against the City if the highest bidder is not selected. stated
that there is a rule in effect for the bidding process. Some discussion followed.
Consensus of the Commission is that this item is covered.
Article III, City Commission
Item 7. Section 9. Topic: Section C-9, Spelling/Grammar Correction
Chairperson Grafton
stated that pro tem was capitalized and does not need to be.
Member Barnes, Vice-Chair McKey
seconded by , moved to authorize the Attorney to
correct the spelling error of pro tem through out the charter. Motion carried
unanimously.
Item 8. Section 9. Topic: Section C-12, Article 3, City Commission, Section C-9,
Created: composition, designation, election generally.
Chairperson Grafton Member
reviewed the item regarding the swearing in oath.
Howell City Clerk
questioned if the City is currently in violation with this process.
Eikenberry
explained that the mayor pro tem is sworn in yearly after the election. She
stated that there is no election every third year, therefore, the current mayor pro tem
City Attorney Palmer
could be mayor pro tem for two years until the next election.
Clerk Eikenberry
stated that the Charter does not say that it can not be done. stated that
past mayors pro tem were selected by seniority.
Resident Lester Dabbs, 619 Caborca Court,
stated the Charter and practice needed to
Clerk Eikenberry
be in sync. stated currently the mayor pro tem is selected by the
Commissioners.
Resident Rosemary Wilsen, 1019 Shady Maple Circle,
stated that the Charter had not
Member Barnes
been violated by the Commissioners electing the mayor pro tem.
suggested adding a line regarding “during an off year of no election, the Commission
Chairperson Grafton
votes for the mayor pro tem.” questioned if a four-year term, if
City Attorney Palmer
asked for, could be in this section. suggested adding a line, “at
such other time as the commission sees fit.”
Member Barnes,Vice-Chair McKey,
seconded by moved to add a sentence to C-9 that
the Commission may elect a mayor pro tem at any such other time they deem necessary.
Motion carried unanimously.
Item 9. Section 9. Topic: Section C-9
Chairperson Grafton
stated that this item relates to the swearing in of the
City Attorney Palmer
Commissioners. stated that per the Supervisor of Elections, this
needed to be incorporated in the Election section.
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Member Barnes, Member Amey
seconded by moved to table this item until they get to
the election Section C-44 of Article 7. Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Grafton
introduced a discussion regarding single member district and a
Member Barnes
Commissioner not living within the district. stated that this item
should be included in the election discussion along with the item previously discussed.
Chairperson Grafton
reviewed the current language in the Charter and the past
discussion with Mr. Dabbs regarding voting for a candidate within that single district
Member Barnes
where they live or holding a city wide election for each district. stated
that would be a topic for discussion at the joint meeting with the City Commission.
Member Barnes, Member Amey,
seconded by moved to table this item until the joint
meeting with the City Commission. Motion carried unanimously.
Items 10. Section 10. Section C-10, Qualifications
Chairperson Grafton
gave a brief review of this item. She stated that in past discussion,
Member Howell
someone in the audience stated that more teeth were needed. stated
that City Attorney Paul Rosenthal stated that the Charter had been followed in the past.
Mr. Dabbs
stated that rules are rules which need to be followed. He then read C-17B
City Attorney Rosenthal
Forfeiture of Office. stated that this section refers back to C-
Member Howell
10. then reviewed a personal incident that happened while he was a
Chairperson Grafton
Commissioner. stated that the current Charter states, “that if
Ms. Rosemary Wilsen
convicted of a felony or any crime involving moral turpitude.”
stated that the Charter Review is not for reviewing things that are personal in nature and
historical. She stated that the review is for updating purposes.
Member Barnes
stated that consensus of the Commission is to leave this paragraph
alone. All agreed.
Item 11. Section 10. Section C-10, Qualifications
Chairperson Grafton
explained that the second discussion relates to qualifications. She
explained that Commissioner Johnson suggested having 5-7 district Commissioners.
Member Barnes, Member Amey,
seconded bymoved to table this item until Article 7.
Motion carried unanimously.
Item 12. Section 10. Topic: Section C-10, Page 13. Judge of Qualifications.
Chairperson Grafton
stated that this item has been previously handled.
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Item 13. Section 12. Topic: Section C-12-b, which states, “…no member of the City
Commission shall in any way deal with or dictate the appointment or removal of any
city officers or employees who are subject to the supervision or control of the City
Manager…”
Chairperson Grafton
reviewed the current topic regarding City Commissioners
interfering with City officers and employees and asked if it should be reworded.
Member Howell
stated something should be put into place because he has seen
Member
employees go to the “higher ups” and within a few months they were fired.
Barnes
stated he agreed that something is necessary. He stated that, in regards to a
Mr. Dabbs
Director, the Commission should be involved. stated his concern with this
Chairperson Grafton
section. Discussion followed. questioned if this item needed to
be discussed in the joint session with the City Commission.
Member Barnes,Member McKey
seconded by, moved to table this item until the joint
meeting with the City Commissioners. Motion carried unanimously.
Item 14. Section 12. Topic: Section C-12-c, regarding influencing votes or political
aid
Chairperson GraftonVice-Chair McKey
reviewed the past comments on this item.
Member Barnes
stated that the State Statute could be referenced there. felt it was fine
the way it was.
Member McKey, Member Amey
seconded by, moved to replace the current verbiage
with the State Statute. Motion carried unanimously.
Item 15. Section 12. Topic: Mayor Vandergrift Comments
Chairperson Grafton
reviewed Mayor Vandergrift’s prior comments on the section.
She stated that most of the items have been reviewed but there are still concerns with
Mr. Dabbs
Veto Power and the City Manager residing within the City of Ocoee. stated
that the City Manager should reside within the City limits.
Member Barnes
moved to hold off on the review of the Veto Power issue until C-21 is
reviewed and the City Commission interfering with the City be tabled to Section C-20.
Motion died for lack of a second.
Chairperson Grafton
Discussion followed. questioned how to get an adult to admit to a
Member Howell
violation and who would determine the violation. suggested having an
anonymous person listen to the complaint and decide whether there is a violation or not.
Member McKey
questioned other avenues for someone to voice a complaint or concern.
Member Barnes, Member McKey,
seconded by moved to add C-12 to the joint meeting,
table the Veto Power and the City Manager residing in the City. Motion carried
unanimously.
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Set Next Meeting Date
Chairperson Grafton
stated that the next meeting dates needed to be determined.
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Discussion followed. Everyone agreed to meet on September 3 and September 15
City Clerk
beginning at 6:30 p.m. and start review of the list with Section 13.
Eikenberry
questioned if everyone would like to have the sections numbered. Everyone
Chairperson Grafton
agreed that numbering would help the process. questioned the
City Clerk Eikenberry
date for the Joint meeting with the City Commission. explained
City
that the item will placed on their agenda to decide a date. After some discussion,
Clerk Eikenberry
stated that she will try to schedule the joint meeting in October.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:30p.m.
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Holly Mosley, Recording Clerk Jean Grafton, Chairperson
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