HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-13-08 WS Budget
Budget Workshop
OCOEE CITY COlVIMISSION
Ocoee Commission Chambers
150 North Lakeshore Drive, Ocoee, FL
August 13, 2008
MINUTES
7:00 P.NI.
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II.
CALL TO ORDER
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Mayor Vandergrift called the Budget Workshop to order at 7:07 p.m. in the Commission Chambers
of City Hall. City Clerk Eikenberry called roll and declared a quorum present.
Roll Call: Commissioner Hood, Commissioner Anderson, Mayor Vandergrift, Commissioner
Keller, and Commissioner Johnson.
Also Present: City Manager Frank, City Clerk Eikenberry, Finance Director Horton, Senior
Accountant Brosonski, and Accountant Rosenberg.
\ II. Introduction - Finance Director Horton
Finance Director Horton advised the proposed budget for FY 2008-2009 is balanced with a
4.5775 millage. This generates approximately $10,000,000 in non advalorem revenues. The
proposed millage rate is lower than the calculated roll back rate which is 4.7371. Ad valorem
revenue is the largest component of the general fund revenues. Inter governmental revenues,
franchise fees, and utility taxes are the next largest components. The proposed general fund
budget for FY 2008-09 is $32,290.120, which is a slight decrease from the current year budget,
less than 1%. City Manager Frank asked Ms. Horton to describe the handout which was
distributed this evening, which has new information that brought the millage rate down. Ms.
Horton said the tentative millage rate noticed to residents through the property appraisers office
is 5.1457, but the proposed budget was balanced at the 4.5775 millage. After talking to the HR
Director and City Manager, we were able to find a $338,000 to reduce the budget, so the millage
is going be reduced from 4.5775 to 4.4202. The other items on this list are not in the proposed
budget, but they give you what the required millage would be to include them.
I Ill. General Fund
Finance Director Horton reviewed the General Fund Expenditure Categories as exhibited in a
pie chart: Personnel 65%; Operating 21.3%; Capital Outlay 5.7%; Transfers 8.0%. She stated
that the proposed budget has a 1.5% COLA and a 1.5% merit for non-union employees. The
June cpr was 5%. Mayor Vandergrift complemented staff on the personnel budget which
generally runs about 70% for government.
Finance Director Horton said the proposed Expenditures are summarized by departments. The
majority of the departments decreased their budget for the FY 08/09 year. The smaller
administrative departments had minimal changes to their budgets (City Manager, Community
Relations, Commission, City Clerk, Legal Department, Finance, Information Systems, and
Human Resources) so they are not going to be included in this presentation. The public safety
depanments make up about 36% of the Gener~l Fund Budget.
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General Government Expenditures
Finance Director Horton said these funds are those not solely and directly linked to any
specific department. They are electric and water for city hall, insurances, debt services payments
for general fund, financing issues, and some lease payments in contingency are all recorded in
this department. This department is proposing a 12% increase next year. She summarized the
following expenditures:
Personnel Services
Insurance
Operating Expenses
Increase in Electricity and Water
Contingency
Health Center (Full year $240K)
CRA Contribution
Transfers Out
Capital Reserve Fund
($87,335)
$ 99,720
$ 190,000
$ 110,000
$ 485,550
$185,000
Commissioner Keller clarified that the Health Center expenditure does not include the
additional $72,000.00 for the additional operating hours? City Manager said that is correct, it is
not included.
I IV. Staff Presentation and Discussion regarding FY07/08 Budget
The following department budgets were introduced by the Department Director or designee. The
following are questions, conversations, and directions initiated by the City Commission during
or after the PowerPoint presentations (attached):
COMMUNITY SERVICES - Craig. Shadrix
Mayor Vandergrift asked if there was any indication as to how many building permits we will
pull this year and inspections we needed to do? Community Services Director Shadrix said he
can't say exactly, but we are slightly above last year. He added that we have projects coming
online that will provide a small boost to the lull we are experiencing right now.
Mayor Vandergrift said we were growing to about 450-500 permits in past years. Mr. Shadrix
said we are little below that. City Manager Frank said it is in the range of 250-275. Mr.
Shadrix added that revenue overall is slightly even or a little above. Building Official Jones
said revenue exceeds expenses in the building department by approx $300,000. They currently
have revenue of 1.4 million and expenses of 1.1 million. Commissioner Hood asked that they
please put all this down on paper to present at the next meeting. He further requested a copy of
the inspection records, how many permits were pulled, and also the revenue reports.
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT - David Wheeler
Commissioner Anderson asked about the cost of personnel services and inquired about the
contract with Al Butler. City Engineer 'Wheeler explained that ClP Manager Butler was a part-
time contract employee in the previous year but he is now a full-time employee with the City.
Finance Director Horton explained that under personnel sen'ices the two positions that \vere
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not filled is not shown as budgeted for the entire year. They had frozen the positions and had
only budget them for a portion of the year.
POLICE DEPARTMENT - Acting Chief Goc1on
Commissioner Keller said he noticed that they had the increase of water and electric for one
additional building in the General Fund and also noticed that there was one in the Police
Department budget. He inquired if they are getting more then just the Police Station or is the
City acquiring an additional building. Finance Director Horton explained that what is being
shown is for the new Police Station but what is also happening is that the Police Department is
currently being charged for the water and electric on their existing building. The City will
continue to pay that because they will be relocating some other departments to the Police
Department next door to City Hall. Commissioner Keller expressed his concern on the electric
and water doubling for the new Police Station. Finance Director Horton explained that the new
Police Station is twice the size of the current Police Station so they did anticipate that the electric
would go up by 15%.
Mayor Vandergrift said it was stated that they were not buying as many police cars this year
and he has not noticed any in the budget for this year. City Manager Frank apologized and
explained that they are not buying any police vehicles out of general fund but will be purchasing
vehicles out of impact fees. Mayor Vandergrift further inquired if they were purchasing any
hybrids and was told by City Manager Frank that he has discussed this with staff.
Commissioner Keller inquired if they were going to keep the two Deputy Chief positions. City
Manager Frank said it will remain the way it is right now but there may be some changes
proposed that would be presented before the budget hearings.
FIRE DEPARTMENT - Chief Firstner
Fire Chief Firstner said with budget constraints everywhere this year they no longer have any
kind of re-supply of equipment with Health Central Ambulance. Mayor Vandergrift inquired if
they are able to buy through the clinic. City Manager Frank said they are currently working on
that.
Commissioner Anderson said they had spoken about being able to charge back to the insurance
companies for ALS calls and inquired as to where they stood with that. Fire Chief Firstner said
there is a cost recovery program but that is for auto accidents only. Maitland and Winter Park
are currently on that program. He further said that as for ALS emergency type calls that are not
auto related; there is not anything in place to allow them to charge back. Commissioner
Anderson inquired if there is a law that does not allow them or is there just no one out there
doing it. Fire Chief Firstner said that only transport agencies are charging for their services and
they incorporate all their costs into the transportation fee as well. He said he will look into the
legality of it but he is not aware of any other Fire Department that is doing this. City Manager
Frank inquired if the Commission is asking for the Fire Department to start sending bills to
citizens who had ALS services. He further said there is no reason that they can not do it but if
they are going to start spending time sending bills to citizens he would like to make sure that the
Commission is approving this. Mayor Vandergrift said he \vould like for them to do a study
first and see if it is economically feasible or not. City I\hnager Fnmk said they could propose
something but they will not know what type of collection rate they are going to get. He further
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added that if they take on billing the citizens who use the ALS services it is going to take the
effort of employees having to go through the billing. Typically transport agencies collect about
60% of what they bill out and Medicaid reimbursement is significantly less. He added that he
personally does not believe they will make money doing this and it is going to costs us another
staff member to do the labor. Commissioner Anderson said from day one they had always
talked about the cost recovery in using ALS and agrees with the Mayor that they should do a
study.
Mayor Vandergrift briefly added that when Commission ask for information to be sent back to
them to please e-mail ALL commissioners as soon as possible.
Commissioner Johnson commented that when they look at the fire budget they are not looking
at it for what it is because of union negotiations. He further said that he would like for it to be
understood that fire, police, and general employees should get the same budget increase; if there
is an increase in merit or COLA, everyone should get the same increase. Mayor Vandergrift
said that is the expressed opinion of ONE commissioner. Commissioner Hood inquired from
the City Manager as to what the fire budget was based on. Fire Chief Firstner said that he can
not answer this from the personnel standpoint but from the operational standpoint the fire budget
reflects everything that they are currently doing now with no projections on any type of proposed
economics and negotiated contracts. Human Resources Director Carnicella said they will
attempt to try to stay within the parameters being discussed for general employees, if that does
not happen it will be discussed at the executive session, and then bring a collective bargaining
agreement forward at a public meeting. They will hopefully be able to bring in a 3-year
bargaining agreement that will represent what they think they might be able to do over a 3-year
period. Commissioner Johnson inquired if that will happen before this current budget process
is over. Human Resources Director Carnicella said he does not believe that is possible, but he
will try.
Commissioner Johnson had asked for information on inspections for which copies were made
and distributed. He then said with the 900+ businesses in Ocoee that have to be inspected he
wanted to look into changing the one part time inspector to a full time inspector. Commissioner
Keller said he recalls the conversation last year and also agrees that this is a need position since
it will generate revenue and pay for itself.
Commissioner Hood said he has spoken at length with the City Manager about adding a Fire
Station in District 1 and inquired about the costs. City Manger Frank said cost will really
depend on whether they are looking to put a rescue engine or an ALS engine or a full fledge
station verses a rescue station. He can estimate a cost of $.5 million for rescue station to $1.4
million for full station. Fire Chief Firstner said the last time it appeared on the candidate list in
2006 the total cost for a new fire station in that area was about $1.5 million. Mayor
Vandergrift inquired what the cost would be to man the station ever year. Fire Chief Firstner
said they would have to manage the station with a four man engine crew and that would cost
about $.5 million a year in salary. Commissioner Johnson inquired as to what if they used the
house that the City purchased by the softball field. Fire Chief Firstner said that would be a
good location but he does not have any figures on what it would cost to convert that house to a
usable fire station. Commissioner Hood said he would like to include a Fire Station in District
1 for $850.000 in the tentative budget. l\'iayor Vandergrift said he \vould like to also include
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Robocop and both can be added to the ballot to see which residents would like to vote for. City
Manager Frank asked for clarification as to what type of station. Commissioner Hood said if
they use the Rogers property they could have a full fledged station. Mayor Vandergrift said if
they get figures before the next meeting to please e-mail the Commission.
P ARKS AND RECREATION/CEMETERY - Parks and Recreation Director Hayes
Parks and Recreation Director Hayes said the major changes in the budget for the Parks
Division is the elimination of two currently vacant positions, a slight increase in pest control and
the addition of the stormwater assessment fee. Mayor Vandergrift inquired as to what pest
control he was referring to. Parks and Recreation Director Hayes explained it is pest control
for the insects in athlete fields and parks. Commissioner Anderson inquired about the
storm water assessment fee. Finance Director Horton explained that the storm water fee for the
City properties are now being included because when they converted everything over to the
TRIM bill they found out that there were errors in the billing. They have gone back and
corrected all those errors and it is now being reflected in the budget what the true costs are for all
those properties.
Parks and Recreation Director Hayes briefly explained some improvements to Central Park
including the demolition of the tennis courts. Mayor Vandergrift inquired if we had just spent
$.5 million on Central Park and said he would like to see other parks in the city improved so that
they are usable. City Manager Frank clarified that approx. $400,000 was spent on
improvements to Central Park. Commissioner Anderson said he thinks that the proposed budget
for Central Park is to complete what they have started. He further inquired about the capital
outlay which went from $110,000 to $220,000. Parks and Recreation Director Hayes said
what happened is that they had some projects in this year's budget such as making improvements
in the playground area around the Beech Center where those dollars have been shifted to the
Parks Division because of similar improvements going on in the park so for budgeting purposes
they elected to lump them all under that Division. Commissioner Anderson inquired if they
were all Park Division improvements. Parks and Recreation Director Hayes said yes they
were.
Commissioner Keller inquired why the budget is going down under the Parks Division for their
electric. Finance Director Horton said it is because they are not anticipating them to meet the
budget this year but instead come in below the amount the have shown.
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT - Public Works Director Krug
Commissioner Keller inquired about the gate out at the Public Works facility where the police
cars are parked. Public "Torks Director Krug said they have money in this current budget year
which will allmv them to install a gate system out their. They are waiting to make sure they get
the same kind of card reading system that they will be installing at the new Police Station v,'hich
is why they are holding off on it for now.
l\'1ayor Vandergrift inquired why they removed the horticulturist since he ,vas told by a
previous City Manager that they had to have one on board in order for them to use anythi:\g such
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as round-up. Public Works Director Krug said he has not heard of that before but did advise
the Mayor that they are using eco-friend1y weed killers.
Commissioner Hood inquired as to what the costs were last year for the Holiday decorations.
Public Works Director Krug said last year it was about $42,000 and this year they are
expecting it to be around $46,000. Commissioner Hood inquired why they were asking for
$60,000 in the budget.
Mayor Vandergrift said at the last budget they voted to mow the City right-of-ways once a
month but since they do not know how much rain they are going to get he feels that instead of
changing what they voted on maybe they can respond a little bit quicker. Public Works
Director Krug said they are fortunate that the contractor for the last two month remaining on
this contract have done the extra mowing at no cost because it saves them a lot more time.
Commissioner Anderson inquired if there is any way they can mow the grass a bit shorter.
Commissioner Hood said you have to be careful because cutting it too short can weaken the
root structure and if they do not get enough water on the grass it can cause the grass to end up
burning up and dying.
Mayor Vandergrift inquired why the Clarke Road resurfacing was not shown in the budget.
City Manager Frank said there is no money. Public Works Director Krug said to do the
entire Clarke Road from Silver Star to A.D. Mims would be about $875,000. He further said the
$300,000 they have in their right now they can do some patching but it probably would not do
the whole road. City Manager Frank said they could break the Clarke Road improvements into
a two-year project and do northbound one year and southbound the following year.
Commissioner Keller said the traffic calming city wide shows $20,000 and he recalls that it
costs $5,000 a speed table. Public Works Director Krug said the speed tables work great and
he loves them but they are costly. They have found some other contracts that they can piggyback
off of with that would cost $28,000 plus the stripping. That would save them about $2,500 per
speed table. Commissioner Keller said that would still only allow for them to install six speed
tables and he would like to see a few more then six. He further said he would like to keep the
budget at $40,000 for speed tables if that is what they had in the budget last year.
Public Works Director Krug said there is an increase in the Fleet Maintenance budget due to
increase on fuel. They are looking at hybrids.
Commissioner Johnson said there was an article in the Orlando Sentinel last week that said the
life usage of brick streets is about 50-100 years versus asphalt which is 15 years. Mayor
Vandergrift said that is why he strongly recommended to the Building/Planning Department to
try and work out something with the developers to put in brick streets in developments.
Mayor Vandergrift inquired as for the $25,000 for a directional sign if they could rent some
instead and how often do they use them. Public Works Director Krug said they can rent them
but they are used quite a bit and generally when they have one it can only catch one direction of
traffic so a lot of time they need another one. If they needed a second for emergencies it is rare
that you can get it as quick as you want when you rent them. Commissioner Anderson inquired
how much they v;ere used on a weekly basis. Utilities Director Smith said he could have used
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6 over this weekend for main breaks and further added that on off hours you can't find a rental.
Commissioner Keller added that they had this sign on the budget last year and they keep cutting
it out to bring back the following year. Public Works Director Krug said it is also proactive
thing and not just for reacting to emergencies. They can use it to do safe work out in the
medians or allow the Police Department to use it for some of their activities. Mayor
Vandergrift said he has a real problem with buying equipment that will just be sitting so he
would like to look into a year lease. Public Works Director Krug said he would look into it
and will get a price.
Commissioner Hood inquired if they had come to a consensus on cutting service back and
Public Works Director Krug informed him that a questionnaire will be going out to residents to
get feedback from them.
W A TER/W ASTEW A TER. UTILITIES- Director Charles Smith
Director Charles Smith noted that we using a few hundred thousand gallons less per day
putting us below our CUP this year, so our water management is working.
Commissioner Anderson asked, even though we are pumping less potable water, if we are
being compensated by pumping more reclaimed water. What is our profit because we are using
reclaimed water? Mr. Smith said reclaimed costs are less because it is built into the sewer rate
structure plus a small amount of revenue, so there should be some incremental savings by
pumping more reclaim, but we are not seeing a decrease in cost to produce what we are trying to
produce citywide.
Commissioner Anderson asked about the beginning cash balance in the FY 08-09 proposed
budget being only $10,000 this year instead of $211,035 projected for last year. Finance
Director Horton explained that if you look on Charge for Services, you can see where we were
anticipating getting $8,123,325 and that revenue number has been projected down to $7,593,520;
the top number is not related to what Mr. Smith is talking about.
Utilities Director Smith said we are seeing interesting trends and use of water in Ocoee, which
show that our water conservation program is working, and we are also seeing less capital fees
being collected because of the slow down in the building market. He added that the General
Fund is not the only fund with a shortfall this year.
Utilities Director Smith discussed the 83 main breaks, 35 of which were major. He said it has
been difficult getting to some of the other construction projects when they are constantly pulled
off the job. In this budget they are proposing using some contractual services for those Capital
projects in the hill area.
Mayor Vandergrift asked cost to start expanding a spine system of water and reclaimed water
to address the one third of the City where there is no sewer service. Mr. Smith said they are
negotiation with the County to secure a larger reclaimed water supply. Two years ago when he
put an estimate together, the costs to supply sewer to a residential property was approximately
$26,000 - $32,000 per lot. Mayor Vandergrift said he just had to replace his septic tank and
with the added cost of redoing the yard, it was approximately $10,000. Mayor Vandergrift said
we had a program that allowed us to set up the spine line, if you pass an ordinance saying that
anyone having problems with their septic tank would have to hook onto our sewer line, which
would be cheaper than replacing the septic tan1e Mr. Smith said we do not have the money to
do that and we would have to figure out who would pay for that. Commissioner Keller asked
what the life expectancy is for lines that are instalJed and not used. Mr. Smith said there \vcre a
few areas \vhere "dry lines" were installed and one had to abandon the system once they \vere
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getting ready to use it. He said when the system is not in use, it can get damaged by
construction, cable companies, etc., and there is not urgency to get the repairs made and they are
often left in a state of disrepair. Commissioner Keller said he would like to see us off put the
whole city on sewers and eliminate the septic systems, but short of that if we leave them sitting
we may have a lot of cost to repair the spine lines. He felt it would be better to do small areas at
a time and offer residents incentive to get on public sewer system.
Mayor Vandergrift said he argued about putting public sewers in Brentwood years ago. He
added that we have a six inch water main that runs from Palm Avenue down Ocoee Apopka past
the Westyn Bay area and then down Clarcona Ocoee Road, and that has never been used. Mr.
Smith said that line is used to provide system continuity and provides pressure flows up in that
area. He said when they looked at putting a line under Maguire Road at the turnpike, they
looked to see if there was a shortfall in that area of pressure, supply, or fire flow, and found that
that line was much needed if we were not going to do improvements somewhere else. Mayor
Vandergrift said that line was put in with the speculation of serving Westyn Bay and that area.
Mr. Smith said we have Eagle Creek coming in and Glad Tidings is hooked to it. Mayor
Vandergrift said that line was put in twelve years ago with no concept of hooking anything up to
it. City Engineer Wheeler said we used the excess revenue from the early nineties; if we had
not done that we would have had to rebuild the public system, loop the system, provide for
excess pressure and fire flow etc. He added that there is no excess revenue at this time.
Commissioner Anderson asked what capacity we have in our system now, how many more
homes could we put on our system at this time. Mr. Smith said the plant is currently receiving
approximately 1.6 million gallons per day and the current capacity is three million gallons.
There are some internal processes that we can add to it that would take it to four million. We
can't go passed 1.8 million in effluent disposal. Every home that we connect to reclaim
increases the capacity at the plant towards that goal of four million gallons. Commissioner
Johnson asked about the effects of the reclaimed that have already been added. Mr. Smith said
Waterside, Silver Glen, Reflections, and Reserve are all connected now and we will have to turn
in a report to FDEP in the next six months. We anticipate the capacity being increased to 2.0. C
Commissioner Johnson said he wants us to research a process being done by Orange County
described what some other cities are starting to do where they take in septic pump trucks and
pump the septic out of the tanks into the sewer facility; we could make a million dollars by just
handling 20%. He said Orange County has it on Sand Lake Road and Mount Dora is ready to
go to it. Mr. Smith said he is in favor of any idea that would increase revenue, for example they
recently we negotiated a credit for our sludge hauler to bring their sludge press water back to us.
He said it is more profitable that doing the houses.
Utilities Director Smith continued his presentation.
There was discussion regarding installation of FlexNet meter reading system. Commissioner
Johnson asked about the Kruger system. Mr. Smith said it is a steady state system, you will
always have inflow and outflow that you try to keep the same. Commissioner Johnson said
isn't it supposed to shut off when the oxidation is right instead of running 24 hours per day. Mr.
Smith said he is not aware of it, but he will discuss it with him later.
Utilities Director Smith said the only major piece of equipment we are getting is a hoist truck to
pull the pump out at the lift stations. Commissioner Hood asked if this was going to be a
vehicle that goes home with someone every night. Mr. Smith replied that the on call person for
se\ver will take it home.
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Commissioner Hood asked if we are still getting fluoride in water. Mr. Smith said we still
have it; it is getting more expensive and hard to get. He heard the County stopped putting it in
their water put he wants to research that topic further and bring it back to them.
Commissioner Keller asked, with all of these main breaks, do we need to consider a bond issue
or something to get this fixed? Mr. Smith said it is average to have a few major main breaks per
year, but in Gcoee we had approximately 35. Commissioner Keller asked if our system is so
old we are going to be getting some serious trouble. Mr. Smith said he things more resources
should have been put into replacing some of the pipes over the last twenty years; for example
most municipalities in the early nineties pushed to remove asbestos concrete pipes in their
system; we haven't removed many of them here. Commissioner Johnson said one of the
problems is that we bought some existing sewer systems such as Prima Vista utilities, etc.
Utilities Director Smith said over the next ten years there is going to have to be a commitment
to replace a lot of lines, particularly those made with substandard materials. We also need to
move meters in the rear of residents' yards which makes the repair process difficult.
Commissioner Johnson said they started that process in Brentwood years ago and we were
supposed to keep going. Mr. Smith said we are making some headway, but need to continue
getting all the meters moved. Commissioner Hood said until we quit having breaks, all of our
manpower is going to be tied up on repairs, what we need is a four man crew who do nothing but
replace/upgrade existing lines. He added the problem is here now. Commissioner Keller said
that is why we brought this subject up, so they can have a discussion about what needs to be
done. Mr. Smith said they are working hard to come up with a cost estimate to repair the mains
that are substandard. Weare trying to rank the projects because the wish list is way too high.
We would like to take a percentage of those projects and provide it to the rate sufficiency
consultant who is doing the work, with the other capital projects, and sometime around
November sit down and discuss the financial impact. Commissioner Johnson said if we went
ahead and got a bond issue, put the lines in where new Commercial businesses will be coming in
such as along Highway 50, we can get the money back as they come into the City and put it back
into the fund.
Mayor Vandergrift asked if radio read meters that are out now can tell us when people are
using water and how much. Mr. Smith said the FlexNet system reads the meter on the hour and
broadcasts the information every five hours. We can set the meters up to broadcast more often in
problem areas. The more reads that you do, the more frequently the battery would need to be
replaced in the units which is not expensive, but labor intensive.
Commissioner Anderson said we need to look at what we have and come up with a model;
maybe there are alternate loops that we can do or we may need to abandon parts of the system
and put lines in a new location.
Commissioner Anderson asked if you put the radio reads around the system and it shows a flow
out of a facility, you would know there is a leak in the system. Mr. Smith said that software can
predict low level leaks, larger leaks, etc. There may be a delay before we get the report. They
are now developing that system with pressure inducers on that so on a real time basis it will show
when someone is having low pressure.
Commissioner Anderson said there needs to be follow-up on the routine maintenance issues
such as the team of people that are working on the sidewalks. Public 'Yorks Director Krug said
we have a crew that is currently using part of the operating funds to work on sidewalk repairs.
Commissioner Keller said if we wait until November to figure out what our needs are, we \\'ill
have already set the budget. He said he \'liouId like to see us set some money aside to begin this
\vork. 1\11r. Smith said there has been some set in the budget, but the enterprise iimcl gets
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revenues that are generated from the fees, not ad valorem taxes. If we need to generate more
money, that would come in the form of a rate increase.
Mayor Vandergrift said we have gone over our allotted time, so we will continue next time.
He said if anyone did not get there question in tonight, see if you can get it answered by
contacting the director. We will try to wrap up the next budget meeting in an hour. The back up
meeting date of August 20th is the same as the Evans School Board Meeting and he will be
attending the Evans meeting. Commissioner Keller said he will be at the Evans meeting also.
Mayor Vandergrift said there is a clean up day tomorrow at Ocoee High School.
Mayor Vandergrift complimented the staff for changing the street signs to show the number
range. The Mayor also asked that the minutes be emailed to everyone as soon as possible.
I IV. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:11 p.m.
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