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MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP HELD ON TUESDAY,
AUGUST 2, 1988
CALL TO ORDER: 6:05 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Ison, Commissioners Johnson, Hager, and
Bateman (arrived at 6:10 p.m.), City Manager Ryan (arrived at
6:15 p.m.), Assistant City Manager Finch, City Attorney
Rosenthal, Acting City Clerk Grafton, and Deputy Clerk
Resnik. Charter Revision Committee Chairman Beatty arrived
at 6:30 p.m. and indicated he was not aware that the meeting
time was changed to 6 p.m. Charter Revision Committee member
Switzer was also in attendance.
ABSENT: Commissioner Dabbs (out of town)
REVIEW OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CHARTER - CHAIRMAN BEATTY
Review of Article VI
Mayor Ison asked for Commission comments Slnce Chairman
Beatty had not yet arrived. Since there were no general
comments, Mayor Ison started by reviewing the changes made to
Article VI. There were no changes to Section 1 and only
minor technical enhancements to Sections 2 and 3. There was
a change to Section 4 on the budget to include a provision to
identify proposed measures to reduce costs and conduct a more
economical operation during the fiscal year. Other changes
made to Article VI included a new Section 5 that calls for a
balanced budget and a provision under Section 7 that would
ensure that the public get notice of all budget meetings.
Under Section 8 (c), City Manager Ryan suggested that
the Commission and Charter Revision Committee add a provision
that would allow staff to handle the transfer of funds
within the same department and that if a transfer of funds
was needed from one department to another, then it would have
to be approved by the City Commission. The current Charter
would not provide the City Manager any authority to do budget
amendments. Commissioner Hager said any tranfers of
significant amounts should come before the Commission for
approval. Section 8 (c) was changed to read: "At any time
during the fiscal year the city manager or city commission
may transfer part or all of any unencumbered appropriation
balance among programs within a department, office or
agency." The last sentence was then broken off into a sub
paragraph of its own to read: "The city commission may by
ordinance transfer part or all of any unencumbered
appropriation balance from one department, office or agency
to another."
There was some discussion about Section 9 on whether five
years for appropriation was enough. If the city wanted to
put away money to buy something in the future, they would
have to expend that money by the end of the five-year period.
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It was pointed out that that money could, at the end of the
five years, be reappropriated for that same use so no change
was necessary.
A change was made in Section 10 to include the words "in
October" to clarify when the City commission would designate
depositories for city funds (first sentence). Section 11 was
changed to make it align with Florida State Statutes. There
were no other major changes to Article VI.
Review of Article VII
Charter Revision Committee Chairman Beatty asked that Section
1 be tabled until the next joint meeting between the Charter
Revision Committee and the City Commission which was to be
held on Tuesday, August 16. He explained how the committee
had handled the possibility of four-year terms and how ~hey
would need to be phased in with irregular terms. Chairman
Beatty said four-year terms were chosen rather than three-
year terms because with three-year terms, the elections would
~ never coincide with a Presidential election.
commissioner Bateman commented that he would like to keep
something in Section 3 which referred to the City Clerk being
the designated registration officer. There was some
discussion that this was deleted because it conflicted with
the County's designated Elections Officer. Commissioner
Bateman said he basically wanted something in the Charter to
let people know that the City was taking an active part i~
the registering of voters. It was decided that this would
again be discussed at the next meeting.
Section 4 was revised to bring it into alignment with Florida
State Statutes. There was discussion under Section 5. Mayor
Ison said he felt uncomfortable with the canvassing when he
was running for reelection. Mayor Ison said there were also
some problems in the past with the Mayor and two
commissioners not up for election all getting together at
noontime. He asked whether something could be added to say
noontime or as soon thereafter. City Attorney Rosenthal said
it was not necessary and if the situation ever presented
itself where they could not convene at noontime, they could
amend the time for a time certain thereafter.
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Mayor Ison had one other change for Article VII, under the
new Section 7, where the revision had been made to the last
sentence for a voter to cast a vote "by making a cross {xl".
Mayor Ison said it was necessary to blacken the square on
some voting cards and that this should be revised to read "by
making the appropriate physical mark".
It was discussed that there would be two public hearings held
on the Charter revision during the last two weeks of August.
The actual dates would be decided at the Charter Revision
Committee meeting to be held on Thursday, August 4, 1988, at
7:30 p.m.
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City Attorney Rosenthal said the Charter revisions must be
approved for first reading at the first City Commission
meeting in September (Tuesday, September 6) and for second
reading at the second City commission meeting in September
(Tuesday, September 20).
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Review of Article VIII
Chairman Beatty said there were no changes to Section 1 and
that Section 2 through section 38 under the present Charter
had been deleted since they were no longer current under
State law. The new Section 2 (old Section 39) was revised to
set the maximum bond amount at 25% of the assessed value of
taxable property within the City. Under the current Charter,
this amount is 50%.
A new Section 3 was added under Article VIII at the advice of
the City Attorney defining the powers declared additional to
State law.
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Review of Article IX
Chairman Beatty said there were some minor revisions to
Section 1 to strengthen the wording. Mayor Ison asked to
have the word "substantial" in the first sentence of Section
1 quantified. The Mayor said he would like to see a certain
percentage added to the sentence to make it more specific.
City Attorney Rosenthal said that such disclosure information
was provided for under Florida State statutes and that it
would be difficult to place a percentage there since a small
percentage in a large company could be very substantial but a
large percentage of holdings in a small company may not be.
Commissioner Bateman wanted to revise the section so that it
did not include an employee in the part where voting was
discussed. He said a modification could be made where staff
may have a recommendation in a matter and would need to
refrain on that recommendation, but not a vote. Commissione~
Bateman also wanted the word Commissioners mentioned if that
was what was meant by officer.
Sections 2 and 3 were deleted since they were
addressed elsewhere in the Charter or were already
under State statutes.
already
addressed
It was discussed that there would be two public hearings held
on the Charter revision during the last two weeks of August.
The actual dates would be decided at the Charter Revision
Committee meeting to be held on Thursday, August 4, 1988, at
7:30 p.m.
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City Attorney Rosenthal said the Charter revisions must be
approved for first reading at the first City Commission
meeting in September (Tuesday, September 6) and for second
reading at the second City Commission meeting in September
(Tuesday, September 20).
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Chairman Beatty said he would have the final changes
incorporated and would meet again with the City Commission at
a workshop to be held on Tuesday, August 16.
DISCUSSION ON CHANGE ORDER POLICY - Dennis Finch, Assistant
City Manager
Assistant City Manager Finch asked if the Commission had any
questions or comments on the staff report he had prepared.
Commissioner Bateman said he had a problem with justifying
the language of the change order policies. Commissioner
Bateman questioned why the City bothered going through the
bid process if the amounts of those bids were bound to be
increased by the change order process. He asked what would
keep a contractor from underbidding to get a job knowing that
the lower amount could be adjusted with change orders. He
said he wondered how lawful it was to have these change
orders.
Commissioner Bateman also questioned 6. (a) and (b) on the
staff report and indicated that he felt it should be the
contractor who should have the responsibility for paying
monetary damages if that contractor chooses to delay a
project while awaiting approval on a change order. He
thought the responsibility for project delay should not rest
with the City. Assistant City Manager Finch said language
could be written into contracts detailing the contractor's
responsibilies should a situation such as that arise.
Commissioner Bateman said it should especially be written
into contracts where a project involved rerouting or slowing
down of the usual traffic flow.
Assistant City Manager Finch said he shared the Commission's
feelings that change orders were not desirable but that he
felt some policy was needed since most of the time it was
impossible for a contractor to know exactly how much money
would be involved in the scope of a project.
commissioner Bateman questioned whether the change orders
were a result of mistakes by City staff. Assistant City
Manager Finch said that sometimes "mistakes" do occur but
that was not always the case. Mr. Finch said many times
something would be added to the project and would therefore
increase the price of the work to be done. There were also
other times when the contractors could run into things that
were not anticipated and would therefore drive up the cost of
the job.
City Manager Ryan said the staff would copy all change orders
to Commissioners so that they would be aware of any change to
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a project. Commissioner Bateman said he wanted to amend the
staff report by striking the words "up to say $2500 or $5000
or" from #6 on the staff report.
ADJOURNMENT: 7:15 p.m.
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