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MINUTES OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING
HELD AUGUST 6, 1985
PRESENT: Mayor Ison, Commissioners Cox, Rodgers, Hager, and
Bateman, City Attorney Kruppenbacker, City Manager Griffin,
and Deputy Clerk Louloudis.
ABSENT: None.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Ison called the regularly scheduled City
meeting to order at 7:31 p.m.. Mayor Ison then
present in prayer and to the Pledge of Allegiance.
Commission
led those
APPROVALS
Mayor Ison informed that Item D, Resolution 85-11, Ocoee
Postal Addresses, is no longer required per the letter
received from Ray E. Lundquist, Postmaster. None of the
Commissioners wished to pull anything else from the consent
Agenda. Comm. Ba teman moved to approve items 'A', 'B', 'C',
and 'E' , Comm. Cox seconded, and the vote carried
unanimously. City Manager Griffin read the proposed
Ordinance confirming zoning - P. Pachiratana property, by
title only. Mr. Griffin then pointed the property out on the
map, and informed the Board the second reading would be held
on September 3, 1985. Mr. Griffin then read Resolution 85-
10, Clarifying the legal description of Ordinance 832, by
title only. Mr. Griffin stated this Resolution was
recommended by the City Attorney.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
Mayor Ison announced the Merit System Board Meeting Minutes
of July 15, 85, and the Public Hearing Minutes of July 18,
1985 were for information only.
OLD BUSINESS
SPECIAL STAFF REPORTS - CITY ENGINEER
Mr. Kelley pointed out the drawings which depicted the
proposed outfall drainage. Mr. Kelley reported at the Public
Hearing held 7/18/85, there was unanimous support for the
project proposed, and the citizens who live along the
proposed outfall are willing to grant the easements
necessary. Mr. Kelley stated the bids were opened on 7/18/85
for this project, and the low bidder was DeWitt Excavating,
Inc. in Winter Garden, there bid was $136,678.90. The high
bid came in at $257,580.00. In addition we will have other
costs which are not included in this bid, which includes
replanting of grassing, cypress trees, restoration and
rehabilitation of the retention ponds, and possibly some
additional retention ponds, in order to comply with the
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conditions of the permits. Mr. Kelley recommended awarding
the bid to DeWitt Excavating, as they have worked with them
previously, and have checked their references. Mr.
Kelley informed that they need to obtain the remaining
easements necessary, the cemetery will be time consuming, and
the contractor must obtain a County permit for right-of-way.
Mr. Kelley reiterated what his report to the Commission
stated, that the stormwater storage volume we are creating in
those lakes is the maximum we could achieve because the
agency would not allow the lake levels to be any lower than
those levels approved in the permit. The permit conditions
are such that the agencies can require the system to be shut
down temporarily or permanently in the future, particularly
if long term water quality problems were to develop in these
two lakes. Mr. Kelley stated that PEC can not make any
guarantees regarding long term water quality predictions on
the lakes. Drainage improvements may be necessary in these
two lake basins even with the approximate 6.5 to 7.5 feet
lower lake levels resulting from installation of the proposed
outfall system. The City will also be assuming the liability
for any potentil claims by third parties regarding the
lowered lake levels or alleged downstream impacts. Mr.
Kelley also informed the Board that there will probably have
to be other drainage improvements attempted by the City or
Orange County in the Lakewood Avenue area, and westward in
the main ditch section running toward Lake Apopka to restore
and or improve the drainage capability in the area. If the
City is prepared to accept all of the conditions and related
issues for the project, and has the available funds, and
desires to proceed with the project, Mr. Kelley recommended
the City conditionally award the contract for the work in the
amount of $136,678.50 to DeWitt Excavating, Inc. Comm.
Bateman asked if the City has any alternatives. Mr. Kelley
stated only one, to pump into Starke Lake if we do not start
this project. Comm. Bateman moved to approve this project
via the City Engineer's recommendations, awarding this
project to DeWitt Excavating Inc. for $136,678.90, subject to
the City obtaining the additional easements, and the
contractor obtaining the right-of-way utilization permit from
Orange County, with the understanding there will be
additional costs, Comm. Cox seconded, and the vote carried
unanimously after some discussion. Comm. Rodgers asked how
the project would be funded. Comm. Cox felt the Commission
had already discussed this funding previously, it would be
taken from idle funds and then paid back by a taxing district
over a period of time. Mr. Griffin explained that Drainage
falls under the Street Dept. but there are no reserve funds
in any department except General Government. Mr. Griffin
explained that there were $269,000.00 appropriated and
$240,000.00 are already spent. Mayor Ison asked about the
two million dollars invested, and if the City could draw from
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those funds. Mr. Griffin explained that those funds are
controlled by the Commission and there is $136,000.00 in the
account, and it can be spent, if the Commission desires.
Comm. Bateman, amending his motion, moved to fund the project
from the idle funds, Comm. Cox seconded the amendment. The
consensus of the Commission was that they were in favor of
those people this project affects to reimburse the City over
a period of time. Mayor Ison stated they had discussed a ten
year period of time, taxing district. Comm. Cox suggested
waiting until we found out the total cost, including the
cypress trees, any additional retention ponds, etc., and then
discussing a method of pay back. Mr. Kelley estimated a 90
day completion period. Comm. Rodgers discussed a way of
rolling the costs over until the next budget year. Mr.
Kelley stated the contractor may not go for it. Comm.
Rodgers stated he did not want to pull the idle funds if the
City could avoid that. The City Engineer was instructed to
get a ball park figure of the cost for rebuilding the
retention ponds, the possible new retension ponds, cypress
trees, and replacing the grass.
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ROBERTS RISE - FINAL PLANS APPROVAL
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Mr. Kelley asked the Commission for some direction, the
adopted Subdivision Regulations do not speak to situations
regarding completed construction plans. The builder submits
a preliminary plan, after its approved by the Commission it
goes through a review process, which takes 2 to 8 weeks, to
the satisfaction of both the developers engineer and the
City's side. Then you arrive at a final plan, approved by
both sides. There is a separate matter of the final plat,
which must be signed, and has to come back before the City
Commission. The builder usually goes ahead before the final
plat is approved or has been recorded. The developer will
make the changes to get it approved. Typically, final
construction plans do not go before elected Boards. The
question is whether the Commission wants to see them again.
Mr. Kelley stated PEC was ready to approve the final
construction plans, and not bring them back before the
Commission. Of course, the problems have been brought back to
the Commission. Mr. Kelley informed there were other problems
with projects which were not subdivisions, Commercial Site
Plans, such as building one business on a platted piece of
property. The City does not have an Ordinance governing those
Site Plans, but PEC is working on one. Those Commercial Site
Plans do not have to go through the Subdivision regulations,
but they require basically the same questions concerning
drainage. Even if the Commission wants to go through a
Preliminary Plan Review, do they want the Final
Construction Plans brought back before them. Mr. Kelley
recommended it was not an essential step, in both cases, the
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Subdivisions and the Commercial Site Plans. Comm. Rodgers
asked if it holds construction up by having to bring the
plans back. Mr. Kelley stated that it could if a set of plans
just got approved to their satisfaction but could not get
agendaed that quickly and had to wait until the next meeting,
two weeks away. Mr. Kelley was asking for guidance on the
plans tonight and any others in the future. Mr. Kelley asked
for comments from the City Manager and the City Planner. Mr.
Wagner thought that it would work as long as the staff
comments were combined with the City Engineer's comments. The
different departments make comments which are generated into
staff comments. If something was not resolved with the
parties involved then the plan would come back before the
Commission. Mr. Rick Merkel, PEC, stated the Preliminary
Review is an excercise we go through in order to resolve all
the issues the staff and the development has agreed upon.
When all those issues are resolved the plan is in its final
form, and doesn't need to come back before the Board to go
through all those problems again. Then the final Plat comes
back before the Board. Based on the history of Ocoee's
subdivisions, Mayor Ison stated, he did not mind seeing the
plans another time. Mayor Ison did not mind streamlining the
Commercial Site Plans. Comm. Cox felt the staff was capable
of handling this but he also felt he would like to see the
plans again. Mayor Ison stated he was elected by the
citizens and he must consider what is best for the City of
Ocoee. Comm. Bateman and Comm. Hager agreed with Mayor Ison,
that they would like to see the Final Plans again. Comm. Cox
felt he had faith in the staff and would go ahead with Mr.
Kelley's recommendations. Comm. ROdgers agreed with Comm.
Cox, and stated that the Commission reviews the preliminary
plans, tear them up, make recommendations on all kinds of
things for Mr. Kelley to work on. When the final plan comes
back, everything is worked out, and the plan looks fine.
Comm. Rodgers stated he wasn't an engineer and he had full
confidence in the Engineering staff and the City Staff,
Planning and Mr. Griffin to look these things over. If the
Commission looks over the Preliminary Plan, and gives the
staff direction then that should be the end of it. Comm.
Rodgers stated if there are any problems then they should be
brought back before the Commission. City Atty. Kruppenbacher
suggested putting these things on the Consent Agenda, then if
a Commissioner had a question or a problem with it, it could
be pulled and discussed. Mr. Kelley recommended the
Commission try this, then change back if they decide to.
Mayor Ison asked for a motion either to change the present
procedures or leave them as is. Comm. Rodgers asked Mr.
Kelley if the time table would change as a result. Mr.
Kelley stated it would not. Mayor Ison wanted to see them
come back before the Commission, with their approval or
objections recorded. Comm. Bateman suggested the consensus
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speak for itself, and leave the procedures as they presently
are handled.
Mr. Rick Merkel, PEC, stated there were a few minor changes
in the actual final plan and the plan the Commissioners
received. Comm. Cox moved to approve the final plans for
Roberts Rise Subdivision, Comm. Bateman seconded. Mr. Frank
Courtney, the developer, asked if the Commission wanted the
sidewalks or not. Mayor Ison stated they are on the final
plan. Comm. Rodgers objected to the plans because of the
roadway, the stub out may not be big enough for the Fire
Trucks to turn around. Comm. Rodgers realized that nothing
could be done now as the Preliminary Plans were already
approved. The vote was taken, the motion carried with Comm.
Bateman, Cox, and Hager voting yeh, and Comm. Rodgers voting
ney.
MOSELY ESTATES, FINAL PLANS - PULLED FROM AGENDA BY DEVELOPER
HARBOUR HIGHLANDS, FINAL PLANS APPROVAL
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Mayor Ison asked if all the Commissions conditions to
the Preliminary Plan were incorporated in the final
Mr. Merkel, PEC, was recommending approval. Comm.
moved to approve the final plans as presented, Comm.
seconded, and the vote carried unanimously.
approve
plans.
Rodgers
Bateman
HEARINGS - SECOND READINGS
PROPOSED ORDINANCE 837 BOLIN ANNEXATION - STAFF COMMENTS
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Comm. Cox moved to enact the second reading of Ordinance 837,
Comm. Bateman seconded, and the vote carried unanimously.
City Manager Griffin read the Ordinance by title only, aloud,
and pointed out the property on the map. Mayor Ison reminded
that the Ordinance was tabled to this meeting as the charter
requires an affirmative vote of three to pass an Ordinance.
Mayor Ison asked for public comments. Ms. Sally Crow, owns
property which is on the east side of Bolin's property. Ms.
Crow opposed the annexation, she feels Mr. Bolin is going to
develop the property in a manner not consistent with the
present standard of housing. Ms. Crow asked Mr. Bolin why he
wanted the annexation. Mr. Bolin responded that he wanted
the City services, he intended to petition for R-1A zoning,
and septic tanks were not a problem for him. Mayor Ison
reminded those present that this is a public hearing for
annexation and zoning is to be discussed at another time.
Mr. Gary Ilgenfritz, 4030 Dorwood Dr, Orlando, who owns the
property adjacent to the north four acres, stated he bought
the property from the Creech's and got zoning from Orange
County which is consistent with the area. Mr. Spicer, 3918
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Dorwood Dr, asked Mr. Bolin if he was planning to build three
homes per acre. Mr. Bolin stated he would build 28 to 32
homes on the 10 acre parcel. Mr. Spicer was also opposed to
the annexation. Mrs. Donald Joynt, 8668 A. D. Mims Rd,
stated there would be four cars per family, which meant there
would be 120 additional vehicles in that area. Mrs. Joynt
did not think Mr. Bolin was telling the truth of why he wants
the annexation. Comm. Cox explained to those present that
there comments did count, but growth was inevitable, Orange
County was planning and growing. Comm. Cox stated their
comments did weigh upon their decision. Then Comm. Cox moved
to approve Ordinance 837, and Comm. Bateman seconded. Comm.
Rodgers asked if they could legally deny the annexation. Mr.
Kruppenbacher stated they could not, legally, the enclave
issue would not deny the annexation as Orange County is in
agreement with the City that this annexation does not create
an enclave, and Orange County is putting that in writing.
Mr. Kruppenbacher stated he has no problem with the
annexation, but the Commission could deny it anyway. Comm.
Bateman thought that the people were entitled to an
explanation. Comm. Bateman stated if the City denied the
annexation, the developer would go to the County, get zoning
and build some kind of housing anyway. Comm. Hager expressed
the same thoughts. Comm. ROdgers stated the City of Ocoee
will do everything they can to be sure the subdivisions are
nice. Comm. Rodgers stated he is not necessarily opposed to
the annexation, he did not want the people to think that he
was because he did not vote for the annexation at the last
meeting. Comm. Rodgers stated he just wanted to make sure
everything was covered legally. And in dealing with the
zoning, Comm. Rodgers was sure that Mr. Bolin understands the
sentiments of the Commission, and as one member he would be
sure the devlopment was comparable to the housing in that
area. Mayor Ison stated that R-3 zoning was just down the
road from them, and single family dwellings were better than
R-3. The vote was taken, and the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Griffin explained that the next step was to petition the
County for a waive of the moratorium, if waived, the
developer will initiate the rezoning process. All property
owners within 300 feet of the property will be notified at
least 12 days in advance. Mr. Griffin informed effective
10/1/85 we will not need a moratorium waiver.
ORDINANCE 839 - ABANDON CHICAGO AVE. ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY
Comm. Rodgers moved to approve Ordinance 839 for second
reading, Comm. Hager seconded, and the vote carried
unanimously. Mr. Griffin read the Ordinance by title only,
and pointed out the property on the map. There were no
comments from the citizens or the Commissioners. Comm.
Rodgers moved to approve Ordinance 839, Comm. Cox seconded,
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and the vote carried unanimously.
ORDINANCE 840 - SANITATION RATE INCREASE
Comm. Hager moved to enact the second reading, Comm. Rodgers
seconded, and the vote carried unanimously. Mr. Griffin read
the Ordinance by title only. Mr. Griffin explained that the
Rate Increase was initiated by Orange County's dump rate
increase. All of the neighboring cities have increased their
rates, and Ocoee's rate are under those. Mr Bruce Beatty, 311
Hormigas, asked if the proposed rate increase would equal the
expenditures of the Sanitation Department. Mr. Griffin said
they would. Mr. Griffin stated our intention is to go to
monthly billing. Mr. Griffin stated we have proposed a 60%
rate hike, from $5.00 per month to $8.00 per month for single
family. The proposed rate will raise the cost of a dumpster,
twice a week pick up to $40.00 or $9.00 per can per month.
There is an additional rate of $30.00 per month for more than
one dumpster. Three times a week pickup will cost $76.00 per
month, four times - $88.00, and five times - $100.00 per
month. Comm. Rodgers asked if we could start billing the
Sanitation fees monthly. Mr. Griffin stated that would not
be feasible. Comm. Hager moved to approve Ordinance 840,
Comm. Rodgers seconded, and the vote carried unanimously.
The new rates will take effect on 9-1-85.
OTHER BUSINESS - FOREST OAKS UPDATE
Mr. Steve Miller, Engineer for the City on this project,
stated he has a list of nine items, and none of them are
major or significant. The one main cost is the paving,
asphalt. Mr. Miller recommended that the water plant "has
been substantially completed, in his opinion", and it can be
placed in a limited service, which means someone should be
there while the plant is in operation. By 8/16/85 the nine
items on the punch list should be completed, with the
exception the .plaque. Mr. Miller stated that we should
be looking at the decertification costs. Comm. Rodgers asked
how long it would take to get the decertification costs
together. Mr. Wayne Rich stated they were in the process of
getting them together. Mr. Miller stated the plant is
designed to run all the time, with a variable speed unit, the
problem is that this plant is the bottom of our water system
and when one of the pumps shuts off, and a valve closes, we
are getting a surge, some 100 p.s.i., which is not an
exceptional condition for a public water system. This must
be resolved before this plant can be totally operational on
its own. Mr. Miller's recommendation to the Commission was
for them to direct the developer and his engineer to examine
this problem, and provide a recommendation as far as
alternatives and costs. Mr. Miller also recommended the
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Commission have Mr. Kelley check the integration from this
system into the current City system. Mr. Miller stated the
water plant may not be cost effective to operate, therefore
Mr. Miller suggested the City might want to shut down the
Forest Oaks Plant during the night hours, and let the Jamela
Plant supply. Mr. Griffin asked if Mr. Miller was going to
take care of the water hammer problem. Mr. Miller stated it
was not a hammer, just a surge, and he is recommending the
Commission direct the design engineer to come up with a
solution. Mr. Griffin asked about the dialing system. Mr.
Miller stated he did not understand that he was supposed to
check into that plus it was not on the plans. Mr. Griffin
stated we needed to find out about it before the City starts
operating the plant. Mayor Ison asked what the Commission
needed to do. Mr.Miller explained that this was to report
that the plant was substantially completed, and the City
could operate it at this time, with someone to watch over it,
as it has some "glitches". Mayor Ison asked if we were going
to operate it at our expense before excepting it. Mr. Miller
explained, "Traditionally, with public water systems, a
developer builds it, and prior to all the dollars and cents
being exchanged, that because there is a liability when you
hook into a water system, the developer would ask the City
forces to operate the plant as they are not licensed to
operate the plant. It does not mean that you accept it and
own it." Mr. Kuhrt had a different opinion, he thought the
City ought to shut the Jamela Plant down, and take advantage
of the variable speed pumps, getting a constant pressure on
the system. Mr. Kuhrt stated, "If you're going to shut
something down, I suggest you shut down Jamela, which has all
kinds of deficiencies, and let Forest Oaks run, and then you
would not have the surge from the start and stop." Mr.
Kruppenbacher asked Mr. Miller if the Forest Oaks plant was
at the level a public utilities plant should be at, and if
there were "glitches" in it. Mr. Kruppenbacher asked why the
City would start running a plant knowing those problems
exist. Mr. Miller stated he thought the City could use the
system on a limited basis, only to supplement the Jemela
plant, if the City needs it. Mr. Kruppenbacher asked if we
waited, will the "glitches" be worked out, so that we can
operate the plant without problems or having to man it 24
hours per day. Mr. Kruppenbacher asked if the City mans the
plant, and that man happens to step away from the plant, and
while he's away there is surge, is there potential problems
for the people down the road. Mr. Miller said, "Absolutely."
Mr. Kruppenbacher asked if Mr. Miller had a problem with the
City not operating the plant until the problems are resolved.
Mr. Miller stated it all depended on how bad the City needs
water. Mr. John Cockrell stated the City does not need water
at the moment. Comm. Rodgers asked how the surge problem was
going to be resolved. Mr. Kuhrt responded that they would
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put an anti-surge valve on the plant. Comm. Rodgers asked
how long that would take. Mr. Kuhrt thought it would take 30
days or less. Mr. Kuhrt stated that Mr. Ned DeMars was
attacking the surge problem. Comm. Rodgers stated that all
known problems should be taken care of first, then we will
put a man out there, and operate the plant to look for
unknown problems. Mayor Ison would like to see the anti-
surge devices installed to Mr. Miller's approval, and the
punch list items completed. Mayor Ison asked the
Commissioners if they would like to have the surge problem
added to the punch list as item 10. Comm. Bateman suggested
that Mr. Miller put in writing what needs to be done, to Mr.
Rich, Mr. Kuhrt, and the City Commissioners, in reference to
the water surge problem. Mr. Kuhrt stated they were
installing pressure reducing valves at each and every service
out there. Mr. Kuhrt stated the valves are 200 lb. valves,
and the flanges are 250 Ibs., we are experiencing 120 to 130
psi surges, so everything we have can actually withstand the
swing of those pressures. Mr. Kuhrt stated that they do have
a surge in the main line, and the lines running from the main
have special valves installed, which can be adjusted for the
pressure. Mr. Kuhrt stated the surge in the main can be
rectified. Mr. Miller stated he would rather Mr. Kuhrt come
up with a solution for the surge, and he would comment on the
solution, since Mr. Kuhrt designed the plant. The consensus
of the Commission was to correct the problem with the water
surge. Mayor Ison asked Mr. Kuhrt was deficiencies Jamela
Plant had. Mr. Kuhrt stated that he made a broad statement.
Mr. Kuhrt stated for years they tried to update the Jamela
Plant, run tests on the high service pumps, and test
different things. It is Mr. Kuhrt's recommendation to shut
the Jamela plant down instead of the Forest Oaks plant.
Mayor Ison stated he wanted to make a point because we are
coming up on budget time, and if we need to make some
improvements we need to budget monies for that. Mayor Ison
asked Mr. Kuhrt if he had any ideas on the plant. Mr. Kuhrt
recommended the City direct Mr. Kelley to explore it and come
up with some recommendations, a few years ago he stated we
came up with all kinds of recommendations to improve that
plant and none of them were implemented. Mayor Ison
commented that Mr. Kuhrt designed the Jamela Plant. Mr.
Kuhrt stated he designed it, but it was not built the way he
designed it. Mr. Kuhrt stated he had a whole file full of
things that were suggested years ago for the plant. Mayor
Ison asked Mr. Griffin to get with Mr. Kuhrt for whatever
information he could let us have in reference to the Jamela
Plant.
NEW BUSINESS
CITIZEN COMPLAINT - RUSTY JOHNSON
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Mayor Ison explained that Mr. Johnson was not present but had
talked to him about the particular problem he had. Mayor
Ison stated he was very upset about a situation within the
City. Mayor Ison wanted to point out to the City Manager and
to the employees present or listening in that it is not so
much what we are going out there to do, it's how we're going
about it. Mr. Johnson was concerned with the attitude and
the way some City employees were talking with him, and
discussing things with him. Mayor Ison wanted to point out,
while we are going through the budget process, that this
money is coming from the citizens, and the citizens are our
customers. The substance of his complaint has been solved.
Mayor Ison stated that we only have a few employees working
for the Water Dept. and they may have a sink hole and a water
break. When they come out to respond, they're trying to fix
it as soon as possible. In this case the citizen felt the
employee wasn't taking the time he should have, but yet the
employee was trying to solve one and get to another.
RELOCATE AUTO BUSINESS SALES - D. TYNDALL
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City Atty. Kruppenbacher recommended no action be taken.
REPORTS AND INFORMATION - CITY MANAGER GRIFFIN
Mr. Griffin pointed out the map which shows a green line
representing the City's initial reserve area, the orange line
represents the County's thoughts for the reserve area, and
the blue line represents the staff adjustments for
compromising with the County. Mr. Griffin stated if this
satisfied the Commission then the staff would make plans to
go back to Orange County. Comm. Bateman thought we should
not leave the bottle neck to the north east, we should take
in the property to the west of the bottle neck also. Mr.
Griffin will research the north-east corner more and come
back with it next Commission meeting.
STAFF/ATTORNEY PROPOSED ORDINANCE FROM HBA ON DRAINAGE IMPACT
FEES
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Mr. Kruppebacher stated the HBA did not give what they
represented. Mr. Kruppenbacher recommended the Commission go
forward with the impact fee Ordinance based upon Mr. Kelley's
recommended amount of fee. Mr. Kruppenbacher stated that the
language is simple, the fee amount has to be substantiated.
Mr. Griffin stated the drainage impact depends on what is
built on the ground. Mayor Ison suggested having a work
session on the impact fees, and maybe we should start with
fire impact or something other than drainage. Mr. Griffin
stated that we might want to do like we did with the Solomon
project, collect monies from each developer depending on the
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impact of drainage. Mayor Ison stated the Subdivision
Regulations will work out any drainage on-site problems,
figure out what they are and how much they will cost and then
collect those monies. The Commissioners need to decide if
they are in favor of an impact fee, and which way to handle
it.
REPORT ON MERIT BOARD MEETING - REF: T. VICK
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Mr. Griffin referred to the Memorandum supplied to the
Commissioners. Mayor Ison asked the City Atty. if the
Commission had to act on anything. Mr. Kruppenbacher stated
under Ordinance 821, the report from the meeting along with a
recommendation from the City Manager be forwarded to the
Commission for a final decision and final action to take
place. Mr. Kruppenbacher recommended the Commission by a
motion confirm the findings of the Board and the
recommendation of the City Manager, or to confirm the
findings of the Board and impose a different penalty. Comm.
Bateman moved to confirm the findings of the Merit System
Board, and approve the recommendations of the City Manager,
Comm. Hager seconded, and the vote carried unanimously.
Mr. Griffin informed the Commission that the staff was
keeping a close eye on Lake Moxie, it is up, although it is
lower today than yesterday. It is to the point where pumping
may be necessary depending on the rain.
Mr. Griffin informed the Commission that Mr. Leroy Lahde, P &
Z Board Member, has had his work schedule changed such that
he will not be able to attend the meetings. Mr. Griffin was
approached by Mrs. Pat Bond, who would like to serve. Mrs.
Liz Cook is the present alternate member, and there is no
set procedure that the alternate must be moved into the full
position. Comm. Hager would like to see Mr. John Linebarier
serve on the Planning and Zoning Board. Mr. Griffin reminded
the Commission that there is still an opening on the Code
Enforcement Board.
Mr. Griffin stated
equipment at Vignetti
similar at Peach Lake
keep the cars out of
the jogging excercise
are not up yet.
. FOLLOW UP AGENDA
We have addressed the Railroad right-of-way and possibility
of an enclave in reference to Ordinance 837 tonight. We
addressed the drainage impact fee and the Merit System Board.
we have installed some new playground
Park, and we will be getting something
Park to include a restraining device to
the park area. We have also installed
course along Starke Lake, but the signs
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The City Atty. did not have any problem with the existing
Ordinance on unsafe structures. The Drainage Impact Fee
Ordinance was addressed tonight. Mr. Griffin supplied a Memo
on the paving of the alley way off of Cumberland. The letter
from Cablevision has not come in yet, in reference to them
not charging a rental fee on the remote control devices that
were already purchased. And finally the developers have not
sent a letter of agreement regarding the Blanchard Properties
request to have a road connecting Maine Street and Maguire.
COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS
Ms. Rene Rusk, 1011 Caballero Ct., stated the water level is
past her chain link fence, she has a handicapped child who
can not play outside because of the flooding. Ms. Rusk
stated she appreciated any push the Commission could give as
far as the flooding. Also, Ms. Rusk stated several children
were playing near the lake and built a raft out of some
plywood and foam, which they left floating in the lake. Ms.
Rusk also complained about children throwing rocks at her
dog, she has called the Police Station and asked that someone
come out, but no one has stopped, and she has given up on
calling now. The children run back towards the football
field. Mayor Ison stated he knew what Ms. Rusk was talking
about and instructed Mr. Griffin to check into it and get two
officers to check it out next time she calls. Mayor Ison
stated they would begin locking the fence after hours to keep
the children out.
Mr. Bruce Beatty, 311 Hormigas, stated the original set
amount from Prima Vista for sewerage was $27.21, and it was
cut back to $24.20, and now with the public counsel's help
and dedication it has been cut to $21.98.
Mr. Wilbur Smith, 50 Pioneer Key Park, stated the flooding
situation is terrible. Every time it rains the park gets
flooded, and he asked what could be done. Mayor Ison stated
there are a lot of factors involved with the flooding. The
Commission directed the staff to research this problem along
with Mr. Kelley and get back with the Commission on what can
be done.
CITY ATTORNEY
Mr. Kruppenbacker stated he had an amendment to the junk
vehicle Ordinance, which will provide an appeal process for
someone who is cited under the existing Ordinance, and will
render our existing Ordinance legal, so that we can start
the procedures for taking care of the junk vehicles. It will
be on the next agenda. Mr. Kruppenbacher should have a full
report on the Lassiter matter by the next meeting.
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CITY COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 6, 1985
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COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS
Comm. Cox, Rodgers and Bateman did not have any comments.
Comm. Hager stated Ms. Johnson called him and said she had
mounds of dirt in her driveway, and her driveway was torn up.
Former Comm. Hamdby called and informed him that the corner
across from the Post Office needs cleaned up. Palm Drive and
Pine was dug up and left. Mayor Ison stated the City Manager
and he drove around the City and made a laundry list of
things the contractors need to fix, also the City Manager has
suspended payments to them until these things are taken care
of.
Mr. Vern Combs stated the paving at Banderas and Sabinal was
not any better than it was before it was fixed. Comm.
Rodgers asked if Mr. Sterns followed up on the complaint he
mentioned on Center St., the pavement was uneven and it has
ridges in it. Mr. Griffin stated he would look into it.
Mayor Ison has received several complaints on the workers of
Orlando Paving throwing cans in people's yards.
Mayor Ison informed that the rezoning hearing for
property off of White Road and east of Sleepy Harbor
scheduled for August 15, 1985, at 2:00 p.m..
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Mayor Ison reported on the negotiations with Prima Vista, the
last meeting was Monday and lasted two and a half hours. At
that meeting, it was determined the Commissioners would
receive a whole packet of information on Prima Vista by
Tuesday of next week.
Comm. Cox moved to adjourn the
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