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MINUTES OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COMMISSION MEETING
HELD JULY 2, 1985
PRESENT: Mayor Ison, Commissioners Cox, Rodgers, Bateman,
Hager, City Manager Griffin, City Attorney Kruppenbacher, and
City Clerk Catron.
ABSENT: None.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Ison called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. and led
those present in prayer and Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
APPROVALS
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Consent Agenda Items A through F were submitted for approval.
Commissioner Cox moved to approve Items A through F,
Commissioner Hager seconded. Comm. Rodgers proposed that
ordinances not be included on the Consent Agenda, he felt
they should be an item by themself. The majority of the
commissioners felt that the Ordinances under consideration
for First Reading would be read anyway and were in favor of
leaving them on the Consent Agenda. Comm. Cox, Hager and
Bateman voted to approve the motion and Commissioner Rodgers
voted no. Motion carried 3 to 1. City Manager Griffin read
the Ordinances by title only.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
The minutes of the Town Meeting of June 25, 1985, Merit
System Board Meetings of June 13 and 19, 1985 were submitted
for information only.
Mayor Ison presented a plaque to the Commission from the West
Orange Girls Club. The Girls Club expressed their
appreciation to the City for the support given to them.
Mayor Ison also presented a plaque to the Commission from the
West Orange YMCA. The YMCA also thanked them for their
support.
OLD BUSINESS
CITY ENGINEER - STAFF REPORTS ON SR. 50 WATER LINE PROJECT
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City Engineer Kelley reported that the project is out for
bids and the city can reject or except. Estimated cost for
base project is $125,000.00. An alternate proposal for
crossing Highway 50 at Marshall Farms Road is under
consideration as it will end up with service on both sides of
Highway 50 at the Turnpike. This additional extension will
add approximately $25,000.00 to the project. Comm. Hager
asked if the 12" line proposed for the project would be
sufficient for anything in that area. Engineer Kelley stated
that right now, with what is known, it should be sufficient.
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CITY ENGINEER STATUS REPORT ON PEACH/MOXIE DRAINAGE PROJECT
The drainage project for Peach/Moxie will be on the agenda
for the Department of Environmental Regulation in Pal atka on
Monday, July 8, 1985, at 1:00 p.m. and Engineer Kelley asked
for representatives from the City to attend in addition to
the City Manager. He also stated we had to get a permit from
the County on Lakewood easement. The current cost estimate
for this project, without the special plantings, is
$225,000.00. This does not include the work that DER wants
done on the old retention ponds in that area. This project
is also out for bids. Mr. Kelley stated that before a
recommendation is made at a public meeting or workshop, all
plus and minuses should be evaluated by the City before
moving forward with the project. He also stated that he
appreciated the support of the City Attorney's staff as he
has had a rough time with the DER permitting. Comm. Rodgers
questioned whether we would have to have a public hearing and
Kelley said that according to the information he has received
they will have to hold a public hearing. The commissioners
did not have a copy of the regulations, only a copy of the
cover letter. The City Clerk will make copies and
distribute. Comm. Hager asked Mr. Kelley if he was satisfied
with the 139 feet water level and he said that he was. Mayor
Ison asked that we try to get the letters out and hold the
public hearing as soon as possible. Jack O'Conner of 1017
Caballero Court is one of the residents affected by the
flooding and he stated that he was the only one that had not
filled in his swale, and he feels the berms and swales are in
the wrong place. Mayor Ison asked Mr. O'Conner if he would
like to go to Palatka with them and Mr. O'Conner said he
would go. Mr. O'Conner also had concerns about snakes in the
area.
PRIMA VISTA NEGOTIATIONS
Comm. Rodgers asked for a status report on the negotiations
with Prima Vista. Engineer Kelley stated that the ball was
in their court and he felt that part of their problem was
their permitting. Mayor Ison said that something had been
done weekly but nothing finished and not all of the "ifs"
answered. They don't have a list of the written assets or
what the capacity is, he hopes to have something to the
Commission as soon as possible. Comm. Rodgers stated that he
understood they had permit to Hwy. 50 and wanted to make sure
we were doing everything we could. Mayor Ison and Engineer
Kelley assured the Commission they were doing everything they
could.
HEARINGS
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ORDINANCE #835 - ANNEXATION CHINESE GARDEN RESTAURANT
Comm. Hager moved to read Ordinance 1835 by title only, Comm.
Bateman seconded. Approved unanimously. City Manager
Griffin read the Ordinance by title only and pointed the
property out on the map. Mayor Ison asked for comments from
the public and opened the meeting up for the Public hearing.
There were no comments from the public. The Mayor then asked
for comments from the Commissioners and they had none. Comm.
Rodgers moved to approve Ordinance #835, Comm. Bateman
seconded, and it was approve unanimously.
ORDINANCE #836 - METZ/PECK ANNEXATION
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Comm. Cox moved to read by title only, Comm. Bateman
seconded. Approved unanimously. City Manager Griffin read
by title only and pointed the property out on the map. Mayor
Ison then opened the meeting up for the Public Hearing.
There being no response from the public, Mayor Ison asked for
comments from the Commissioners. There being no comments
from the Commissioners, Comm. Cox moved to approve Ordinance
1836, Comm. Bateman seconded. Approved unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
FOREST OAKS UPDATE
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Mr. Miller sent his regrets that he could not attend the
meeting, but he had nothing to report as the items on the
"punch list" that had been submitted to Forest Oaks had not
been satisfied. Comm. Rodgers asked if anyone had talked
with Forest Oaks. City Manager Griffin stated they had
spoken with the site superintendent. Rodgers requested that
we contact Jeff Fuqua or Wayne Rich and get them involved, it
would be to our benefit. Mr. Griffin stated that there has
been serious problems with the second well. Atty.
Kruppenbacher said he had followed this matter closely and
there always seems to be the allegations that we never
contact them; therefore, he advises it would be appropriate
to send a letter to Mr. Fuqua and Mr. Rich and request they
be at the next meeting. Mayor Ison expressed disappointment
with Engineer Miller as did Comm. Rodgers. After discussion,
Rodgers moved to dismiss Miller and get another engineer.
Motion died for lack of a second. The attorney again
recommended the City Manager send a letter to Miller and to
Forest Oaks. Comm. Bateman moved that the City Manager send
the appropriate letters to Fuqua and Rich, the Site
Superintendent and Steve Miller and instruct them to be at
the July 16, 1985 Commission Meeting with a full report,
Comm. Cox seconded. Comm. Bateman stated that whether Miller
worked or not, Forest Oaks is still a problem and we should
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go ahead and send the letters and then let everyone "get a
swing at it". Motion carried upon a unanimous vote.
OPENING OF STREET RE-SURFACING BIDS
The following bids were received for the re-surfacing
projects: WNJ Paving - $55.00/ton for Type 3 Asphalt and
$2.45/sq. yd. for S1 - 1" compacted; Orlando Paving
$39.90/ton for Type 3 Asphalt and $2.25/sq. yd. for S 1
compacted 1". Comm. Rodgers moved to approve the bid
submitted by Orlando Paving, Comm. Cox seconded. Approved
unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
SPONSORSHIP OF PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED STUDENT TO NATIONAL GAMES
- JIM BEECH
Jim Beech in a letter to the commission requested a donation
of $368.00 in order to sponsor one student to the National
Games for the Physically Impaired. Since the fund was out of
monies, City Manager Griffin suggested taking the monies from
the contingency fund. Comm. Rodgers stated that Mr. Beech
was extremely active with these groups and recognized
nationally and he was proud of him and of Ocoee. He further
stated that he would not mind sponsoring two students instead
of one. Comm. Rodgers then moved to sponsor two students to
the National Games through Mr. Beech, Comm. Hager seconded.
All of the Commissioners spoke very highly of Mr. Beech and
his dedication to these students and informed everyone that
Mr. Beech is serving on the National Committee at his own
expense. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL FOR COURTESY BENCHES - DEANNIE ALLEN
Deannie Allen owns Beauty Works, a local business, and
instead of signs she would like permission to place
approximately 3 benches at the possible locations of: Silver
Star and Bluford, Wurst/Clarcona-Ocoee, Highway 50 & Bluford,
Kissimmee Ave and McKey and Story/Bluford. The commissioners
told her that Hwy 50 was DOT - State right-of-way and
Wurst/Clarcona-Ocoee was not in the City. City Manager
Griffin questioned the liability and also the franchise we
already have with Bellows Advertising for Bus Bench
Advertising, although it is not an exclusive franchise he
feels the attorney should review the agreement and give us
direction. Mayor Ison stated he would like to give written
notice to Bellows about nine billboards as he has only seen a
few. He stated if he could vote, he did not like the idea of
the benches and then asked for the commission's pleasure.
Comm. Hager moved to have the staff look at and make a
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recommendation, Comm. Bateman seconded. Approved
unanimously. It will be under Old Business for the July 16,
1985 meeting.
DISCUSSION OF RESERVE AREA OF ANNEXATION AND/OR POSSIBLE
URBAN SERVICE
Mayor Ison stated that at the workshop they could not take
any formal action and he requested this be put on the agenda
in case any of the Commissioners had any recommendations.
There was quite a bit of discussion about sitting down with
the County and expressing what our plans are and finding out
what their plans are in relation to an Urban Service Area.
Atty. Kruppenbacher stated that since some of the complaints
expressed is the willingness of the County to talk on issues,
then have staff touch base with each of the commissioners and
come up with ideas and get with county staff and see what
their ideas are and bring back a full package for the
commission - then make a decision. Comm. Rodgers expressed
concern over letting the County know what we want, he feels
it is time for Orange County to talk to us and we should not
let them know all of our plans. Mayor Ison also expressed
some of the same concern. Comm. Cox, Bateman and Hager all
agreed that we need to sit down with them and let them know
what we have in mind and get their ideas on what they are
planning. They feel we have to define an area and
communicate geographical area in order to get their feelings.
Atty. Kruppenbacher stated that we don't want to give away
our game plan but get with the County and find out where they
are going and define what has been made public as far as the
City's goals. Comm. Bateman asked if he wasn't drawing back
from his orginal statement. The attorney stated that he
wasn't backing up and City Manager Griffin stated that the
County already had our "Intent to Annex" Resolution and we
would not have to discuss anything further than that. Comm.
Cox then moved to direct staff to arrange a meeting with the
County, not discuss nay more than already made a matter of
Public Record, and find out what their directions are toward
us, Comm. Rodgers seconded. Approved unanimously. Comm.
Rodgers requested a joint workshop prior to the first regular
meeting in August so they can have a few days to digest
before a decision is made.
REPORTS AND INFORMATION - CITY MANAGER
IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE PROPOSAL
John Howell, attorney for the Homebuilders Association,
reported to Mr. Griffin that it was their fault the proposed
Ordinance had not been submitted yet, and not the
Homebuilders Association.
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CITY ATTORNEY
LASSITER - The attorney reported that he had just received
Friday a breakdown on the costs on the Lassiter case. He and
Mr. Griffin will meet and make a recommendation on each item.
ORANGE COUNTY ORDINANCES - The City of Ocoee voiced their
objection to the two Ordinances proposed by Orange County.
The County went through with the First Reading and came up
with a Resolution in which they stated they did not want to
hurt the cities. The attorney stated there is no reason to
act at this time.
PROPOSED CHANGE TO c-2 ZONING - The change has been made to
the proposed Ordinance per Commission direction and the
Public Hearing and Second Reading will be held on July 16,
1985.
DASSDORF CASE - The County Attorney and Department of Labor
Attorney seem to be waiting for some reason.
ORANGE COUNTY SANITATION RATE INCREASE - Comm. Rodgers asked
if the County had passed the rate increase and had the final
reading. The increase was passed June 10, 1985 and went into
effect July 1, 1985. Atty. Kruppenbacher stated that he had
no opinion on whether legal action should be taken, as it is
tough to challenge an Ordinance setting fees when a body has
authority to set fees. Comm. Rodgers stated that the point
is that if we have 30 days to challenge the time is very
short for the deadline. If we can challenge, he stated he
would feel remiss if we don't pursue. There was some
discussion on getting some of the other cities to join us in
challenging this increase. The attorney was directed to
review the Orange County Landfill Increase Ordinance and if
we can legally challenge, he will contact the Mayor so a
special meeting can be called.
COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS - PUBLIC
Mrs. John Skiffington, Pioneer Key Park II, 59 Periwinkle Key
Drive, asked to speak to the Commission regarding the
flooding problem they are having. As the rainy season
continues, the problem is getting worse. City Manager
Griffin explained that they are aware of the problem and the
Fire Department has been sent down to pump out the overflow.
Part of the problem is that there are only two drain pipes
located on the East of Palm Drive and supposed to flow from
west to east, but they are not working properly and not
sufficient to solve the problem. Another problem is that the
roads in the park are vee-ed to the middle and not crowned,
they abut the sidewalks and the water has no place to go.
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Mayor Ison asked what the fair thing is to do, who is
responsible - the previous owners - also should a special
taxing district be set up - who pays for the improvements
that need to be made. Comm. Rodgers asked if the City had
accepted the drainage, etc. when we took over the park and he
was told we did. Comm. Bateman stated that there was some
discussion that the shopping center contributed somewhat to
the problem. City Manager Griffin stated that the drainage
ditch on the North side was also a problem, it supposedly
belongs to the county, it does not hold the water as it
should. Mary Rozota, 56 Periwinkle Key Drive, also asked for
help with the drainage and the cars that park on the street.
Mayor Ison summarized that this Commission had inherited
several problems and they are trying to solve as many as they
can. It will take time and they will have to find some way
to fund these projects, the drainage problems are very
costly. The area the park is built in was swamp and it will
be difficult to solve the problems. Comm. Rodgers also
stated that there are now tougher restrictions and this will
help to alleviate problems in the future.
Vern Combs, 310 Sabinal, representing the Homeowner's
Association of Prima Vista, had several items for the
Commission. He was glad to see the work being done on Geneva
Park and asked them not to stop now. He was glad to see the
City Commission standing up to the County reference the
sanitation rate increase. He thanked the Commission for
having the archway taken down leading into the cemetery.
They are not happy with the used car lot and the old paper
company property is a problem. They are upset with the new
Cable company and request to be put on the agenda for the
July 16, 1985 meeting. Mary Ellen Frame, 312 Sabinal, also
complained about the Cable Company, she stated they were not
honoring former agreements made with Group W. Mayor Ison
stated that the FCC has stepped in and reviewing franchise
fees.
COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS
Comm. Rodgers stated that the property that was rezoned on
the North end is an eyesore.
Comm. Bateman - no comments.
Comm. Hager - no comments.
Comm. Cox - no comments.
Mayor Ison suggested the City Commission send a Resolution to
the Postmaster requesting that residents that live within the
City of Ocoee City Limits have an Ocoee mailing address. The
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Postmaster sent a letter requesting the Commission give them
direction.
Mayor Ison also stated that there were other areas of concern
with the "special exceptions" section of the zoning.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35
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CITY CLERK HELEN CATRON
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MAYOR THOMAS R. ISON
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