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MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP HELD AUGUST 26, 1985
PRESENT: Mayor Ison, Comm. Hager, Comm. Bateman, Comm. Cox
(came in at 7:30 p.m.) and Comm. Rodgers (came in at 7:31
p.m.), City Atty. Hayman, City Manager Griffin, and Deputy
Clerk Louloudis.
ABSENT: None.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Ison called the Workshop to order at 7:17 p.m..
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO INCREASE WATER RATES
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Mayor Ison asked Mr. Griffin to give a summary of the
proposed rates. Mr. Griffin stated currently the rates are
$4.00 per 5,000 gallons of water, the Ordinance if passed
will increase that rate to $5.00 per 5,000 gallons of water.
The proposed Ordinance will also increase the present fifty
cents per thousand gallons after the minimum to seventy five
cents per thousand gallons after the minimum. Mr. Griffin
stated approximately 35 to 40% of the bills are the minimum
amount. Mr. Bruce Beatty, 311 Hormigas and Mr. Gene
Dickerson stated they did not want the rates to increase but
they beleived in the concept of each department paying its
own way, supporting itself. Mr. Griffin stated the Kissimmee
plant needs a filter system installed. Mr. John Cockrell
stated the Jamela plant has a problem with the irrigation
demand during a drought. Mr. Cockrell also stated that
replacing water lines is an on-going maintenance problem.
DISCUSSION ON PRIMA VISTA UTILITY COMPANY
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Mayor Ison stated the negotiations with Prima Vista have been
going on for the last year to year and a half, and now they
have come to a point where the City and Prima Vista mutually
agree on the report supplied to the Commission. Basically,
Prima Vista is asking for 1.5 million is cash, and the
proposed purchase price is 3,150,000.00. Mayor Ison stated
Prima Vista has agreed to the City of Ocoee paying them a
certain percentage of the monies the City would collect from
hook up fees, therefore they would be participating in the
financing. Mayor Ison stated the conditions of the
agreement. 1. The system would consist of the assets
discussed, plus the construction of the 1.0 mgd plant
expansion at the Prima Vista no. 2. The permitting and
construction of the 1.0 mgd expansion would be done in two
phases: a. 750,000 gpd permitting and expansion, then b.
250,000 permitting and expansion. 2. The current owners of
Prima Vista would purchase 2,500 connections prior to the
City purchasing the wastewater system. There would be no
time limit on the use of these connections, but these
connections will be tied to specific parcels of land. They
would have the right to sell the connections in conjunction
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with the land but would give the City the right of first
refusal at the then current connection fee being charged by
the City. They would reserve 500 additional unit (at no
reservation fee) to be provided by the City upon request at
the prevailing connection fee charge at the time of purchase,
and after the completion of the 250,000 gpd second phase
expansion of P.V. 12. 3. Prima Vista will provide temporary
operators at cost for a period of time. 4. P. V. U.
requests that first consideration for sale of connections by
the City would be given to those who have requested capacity
from P. V. while negotiations with the City have taken place.
Mayor Ison reported that the force main to hwy 50 is complete
and the lift station is 90% complete, and it will provide 330
connections. The revenue would come into the City at the
time of closing. Mayor Ison asked for some direction, and
added there were technical differences to be settled. Atty.
Hayman advised the Commission of some statuatory
prerequisites the City must beware of. Comm. Bateman thought
we needed to look at the cost of maintenance and operation
vs. the revenues. Comm. Bateman had doubted whether the City
would come out ahead. Mr. Kelley presented a map colored to
depict the primary service area, and the expansion site. Mr.
Kelley stated there may be sites outside of City limits who
want sewer services. In essence, the City must decide how
much the plant is worth and make an offer. Mr. Kelley stated
a comprehensive summary is being prepared, for the
Commission. Mayor Ison asked if there was any information
the Commissioners would like to see in the report, or any
questions they have. Mr. Kelley is going to try to show the
monthly revenues coming in, and the projected operations
expense. Mr. Kelley stated sewer is substantially more
complex than water because of DER regulations. The City will
need an individual who has administrative and management
background to deal with DER, PSC, and elected officials.
Comm. Cox asked why they were permitted only for one year,
was the plant in poor condition. Mr. Hull stated the
maximum length of a permit was five years, but he could not
explain DER's actions of a one year permit. Mr. Kelley
stated Prima Vista is not a conventional municipal plant but
there are thousands in the State operated in a satisfactory
manner. Mr. Bruce Beatty, 311 Hormigas, stated the study
showing the plant may not be up to speed is accurate. Comm.
Rodgers commented that he wants to make sure everything is up
front with Prima Vista. Mr. Beatty found the report lacking
in financial and technical information. Mr. Beatty stated
based on figures he received from a report dated August 22,
85, Prima Vista was loosing 20% per year, and he could not
project any income for Prima Vista. Mr. Beatty said part of
the reason he has fought the rates is because of the
inconsistency of data Prima Vista has supplied. Mr. Beatty
stated Prima Vista owes Flagship bank in excess of 1 million
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dollars, plus 12 % interest. Mr. Beatty estimated the
citizens have already contributed approximately $300,000 to
$400,000, and he would be upset if the City buys the plant
twice. Mayor Ison requested the item be put on the agenda
for the next regular meeting, and the Commission could go
from there. Mayor Ison stated the City could do one of three
things. 1. Build our own facility, starting with no
revenues. 2. Make some kind of acquisition with Prima
Vista, keeping in mind the City is growing and the finance
plan is good. 3. Do nothing, which is what we have been
doing. Mr. Beatty stated the quality of service Prima Vista
has supplied has been satisfactory. Mr. Beatty did not see
how the City could break even, according to his projections.
Instead of doing nothing, the City could promote and
encourage Prima Vista. Comm. Cox would like to see the City
controlling its own destiny, and he stated he spoke to 88
citizens who were in favor of the City purchasing Prima
Vista. Comm. Cox felt it would behoove the City to pursue
the purchase as quickly as possible. Mayor Ison stated he
could not say the City will be able to reduce the present
rates, if the City purchases the plant. Prima Vista would
like to settle this as soon as possible.
The meeting adjourned at 8:41
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