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MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING HE1.D 3UNE 3, 1986
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PRESENT: Mayor Ison, Commissioners Johnson: Rodgers:
Bateman; and Hager; City Manager Preston, City Attorney
Kruppenbacher, City Engineer Kelley, City Clerk Helen Catron,
Building Official Sam Gerace, Planner Russ Wagner, and Deputy
Clerk Louloudis.
AISINT: None.
CAL1. TO ORDER - MAYOR ISON
Mayor lson called the regularly scheduled meeting to order at
8:32 p.... The .eeting waa scheduled one hour later due to
the Election held in the Community Center. Mayor lson led
in prayer and to the Pledge 0% Allegiance.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROC1.AMATIONS
Mayor Iaon announced the reaults of the election for our
precinct. There were 1147 votea cast: 115 votes for MTA and
1,036 votes cast againat it.
CONSENT AGENDA
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Mayor Iaon asked the Commission if they wanted any item
pulled from the Conaent Agenda. None were pulled. Comma
Rodgers Moved to approve the Consent Agenda, Co.m. Bateman
seconded, and the vote carried unanimoualy. The following
iteMS were approved: A. Regular ComMission Meeting Minutea
of May 20, 1986. 8. Workshop Meeting Minutes of May 19,
1986. C. Reappointment 0% Frank Carlsson to the Code
En%orcement Board. D. Reappointment of Albert Nettles to
the Board of AdJustment. E. Proposed Ordinance,
Establishing Development Review Fees, First Reading. F.
Proposed Ordinance, Establishing Minimum Requirements on cul-
de-sacs, First Reading. G. Proposed Ordinance, Correcting
and amending Budget Ordinance 843, First Reading. H.
Proposed Ordinance, Amending Budget Ordinance 843, Providing
for General GovernMent Service Account, First Reading. Mr.
Preston read the Proposed Ordinance establishing Development
Review fees by title only. The second reading will be held
3uly 1, 86. Mr. Preston read the proposed Ordinance
Establishing Minimum Requirements %or cul-de-sacs by title
only. The second reading will be held 3uly 1, 1986. Mr.
Preston read the Proposed Ordinance correcting and amending
Budget Ordinance 843 by title only. The second reading will
be held 3uly 1, 1986. Mr. Preston read the proposed
Ordinance Amending Budget Ordinance 843, Providing for
General Gov~t. Service Account by title only. The second
reading will be held July 1, 1986.
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CITY COMMISSION MEETING
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01.D BUSINESS
REPORT ON FLOURIDATION PROJECT
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Mr. Preston stated the Minutes, concerning the Flouridation
Program and the presentation o~ the program to the
Commission by Mrs. Allen, reflect that the Commission was
in~ormed that they would have to pay a portion of the costs.
They spell out exactly what is expected of the City and
what the State will pay for. ComMa Rodgers expressed
opposition to the prograM, stating it was not a top priority
item. Comma Hager agreed with Comma Rodgers. Comma Bateman
stated Comma Rodgers had made the motion to authorize the
program an he had seconded. Comma Bateman stated he was in
~avor of it t en and still is now. Comma Johnson was also in
favor o~ the ogram. Comma Rodgers then moved to abandon
the flouridation prograa, Comma Hager seconded. This opened
the ~loor ~or discussion. Mr. Preston stated the City has
the money for this program. Mr. Kelley stated he hoped the
Commission understands that this is specialty engineering
therefore it is di~~icult to estimate the bids. Mr. Kelley
had previously estimated $35,000.00. He stated the State
will pay for the flouride for two years, then the City must
pay ~or it. Comma Bateman asked i~ the Commission could void
an Ordinance with a motion. Mr. Kruppenbacher stated the
Commission must pass an Ordinance repealing the Ordinance.
Secondly, Comma Bateman felt the citizens should have an
oppportunity to voice their opinions for or against the
~louridation program. Mr. 30hn Linebarier, 1308 Center St.,
aSKed the cost of the maintenance after the State
discontinues paying for the flouride. Mr. Preston stated it
would cost approximately S2,300.00 per year. Mr. Kelley
stated the proJect could be finished in 120 days ~rom now, at
which time, the City would have to pay for the work done.
Mr. Kruppenbacher stated if the motion carries, he would
draft an Ordinance repealing the Ordinance passed authorizing
the program. Mr. Burton Smith, 618 Aldama Ct., stated the
City spends a lot 0% money on playgrounds for the children in
Ocoee and ~elt monies spent on the flouridation program
would also benefit the children to help fight cavities. At
this time, the vote was taken, it was a tie with Comma
Rodgers and Comma Hager voting yeh, and Comma Bateman and
Comma Johnson voting ney. The Mayor votes in the case of a
tie; Mayor leon cast a ney vote, which defeated the motion
to abandon the program.
WHITAKER OIL REPORT AND P1.AN APPROVAL
Mr. Preston stated they asked to be tabled until the next
regular meeting.
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REPORT ON PEACH/MOXIE
Mr. Kelley stated the bids have been received %or the
planting o~ the vegetation area around Lakes Peach and Moxie,
as required by DER. Aurora submitted the low bid 0%
S2,200.00. Mr. Buddy Elmore~ Street Supervisor, stated his
department does not have the equipment to handle such a
proJect and feels they could not do it for the bid amount.
Comma Rodgers moved to approve the bid 0% S2,255.58 %rom
Aurora~ Comma Bateman seconded, and the vote carried
unanimously.
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Mr. Kelley stated the Street Dept. is trying to clean out the
ditches, although he feels they May have to put it out for
bids as Mr. Kelley did not know if the Street Dept. can
finish all o~ theM. The Palm Drive ditch needs to be cleaned
out and the City does not have the equipMent to clean the
ditch properly. Mr. Kelley requested the City submit for
competitive quotations to clean the ditch from Palm Drive
north past the City liaits to the wetlands, which are at
least one mile away. Mr. Preston asked i~ the City has
releases from all those property owners. Mr. Kelley stated
we had the names and addresses but was not sure if the
letters were mailed. Mr. Kelley stated he did not beleive
the City had enough o~ this type of work to warrant
purchasing equipment.
Mr. Kelley stated the manhole was sealed at WOUT for S895.00.
Mr. Kelley stated the original bid was for S19,750.00 by MVG
although they did not fix the man hole therefore Mr. Kelley
has negotiated a change order with MVG, and they have agreed,
to change the amount to S12,500.00. The 12 month warranty is
still in ef~ect.
Mr. Kelley recommended the City hire a civil engineer to
oversee the proJects and handle the inspections. Mayor Ison
asked if he felt this would be cost effective for the City.
Mr. Kelley stated it probably would if the growth rate stays
the same, and the engineer could also do other work for the
City Mr. Kelley stated he would reCOMmend the COMmission hire
an engineer immediately. Mr. Preston stated he would try to
put this item in next year~s budget, also the new City
Manager should have input on this subJect.
ORDINANCE 878. VACATING A PORTION OF CHICAGO AVENUE RIGHT-OF-
WAY, SECOND READING
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Mr. Wagner pointed this out
Ordinance by title only.
citizens. Comma Rodgers
Comma Johnson seconded~ and
on the map. Mr. Preston read the
There were no comments from the
moved to approve Ordinance 878~
the vote carried unanimously.
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JUNE 3, 1986
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OTHER BUSINESS
OCOEE HISTORIC COMMISSION - BETTY ERVINE
Mayor Ison stated he was asked to relay their request. Mrs.
Ervine wants authorization from the Commission to have
combination Friday and Saturday Work Days through June at the
Maguire House. Mayor Ison stated Friday they are asking for
Ispare City employees~ to help out, maybe two from the Street
and Recreation Department, and Saturday would be a citizen
workday. The Commission approved the use of City employees
on Friday. Their goal is to get the plumbing in working
order and get the porch fixed up. Mayor Ison stated he was
donating one month~s Mayor1s salary to benefit the Maguire
House. Everything is filed in Washington for the tax status
although it will probably take six months, but they make it
retroactive. Mr. Burton Smith stated people can make
donations payable to the City, then the City could make a
check payable to the Historic Commission~ and then it is tax
deductible as the City of Ocoee is a non-pro%it organization.
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Mayor Ison announced the results county wide: Osceola County
- there were 16% %or the MTA and 84% against it. Orange
County - 20% for the MTA and 80% against it. Seminole County
- 40% for the MTA and 60% against it.
COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS/PUB1.IC
C1.ARIFICATION OF PARKING ORDINANCE - C. HAYES,
1.UCE
J. WEED, P.
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Mrs. Cheri Hayes, 705 Ridgefield Ave., presented a petition
with 119 signatures which opposed the parking Ordinance in
effect. Mrs. Hayes stated it took her only three hours to
obtain these signatures. She explained the Ocoee Police
Dept. is issuing tickets to persons who park their cars over
that portion 0% the sidewalk which is in the driveway. Mrs.
Hayes contacted Apopka, Winter Garden~ Orlando Police Depts,
and the Sheriff~s dept., and discovered they do not issue
tickets for this. She showed pictures of parked cars along
with a report. These citizens beleive the intent of the law
is not to include that small portion of sidewalk which is in
your driveway and they are asking that the Commission
consider the spirit 0% the law instead of the letter of the
law. Mr. Luce, 725 Vandergri%t Dr., stated they had three
cars and complained that the o%%icer did not come to the door
and ask that the car be moved be%ore writing a ticket. Ms.
Debbie Sweat, Noelwood Ct.~ stated an o%ficer gave tickets
out to her whole street then went across the street and gave
out a warning. Chief Brandt stated they are enforcing an
Ordinance which speci%ies no parking on sidewalks where
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people walk. Chief Brandt also stated that case suits have
been filed where walkers had to go around vehicles which were
parked over the sidewalk because they were forced to walk
around the vehicle and, consequently, sprained their ankle or
hurt themselves in some way. Mr. Kruppenbacher asked that
the item be tabled until the next regular meeting to give him
time to research this matter. Chief Brandt stated our
Ordinance is copied from the State Statutes almost word %or
word. Mr. Kruppenbacher stated there is a phrase within the
law that states, "unless or except there is a con%lict with
traf%ic flow." The Commission can direct the Chief to say no
parking on sidewalks and en%orce the law or direct the City
Attorney to research %or case law and have the City Attorney
make an interpretation. Mr. Kruppenbacher asked for a short
break to discuss the matter with Chief Brandt. Mayor Ison
called for a break at 10:15 p.m.. The meeting was
reconvented at 10:20 p.m.. Chie% Brandt explained that the
law states "an o%%icer ~ may~ issue a citation, . " and he
%elt com%ortable not issuing any citations for vehicles which
are parked in the driveway across the sidewalk, until the
next regular meeting. when the City Attorney will have a
report on the liability issue. Chief Brandt felt the City
should have some sort 0% newsletter distributed to the
citizens to inform them of new laws or Ordinances the City
passes.
NEW BUSINESS
OB3ECTION
OUE1.1.ETTE
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NAME CHANGE - PROFESSIONA1. PARKWAY
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Mr. Bud Ouellette, Vice-President of General Elevator, stated
they are the second largest elevator company in Florida and
employ 218 people. Mr. Ouellette stated they were not
notified of the name change from Old Winter Garden Road to
Professional Parkway. He did not have an obJection to the
name, Just that they were not noti%ied. He felt the name
change would cost General Elevator approximately S50,000.00
to replace their business cards, letter head, etc.. Mayor
Ison suggested the City put both street names up until July
1988. Comma Johnson said the Post Of%ice would have no
problem with this. The Commission had no obJection with this
suggestion, although Comma Rodgers requested that all new
businesses use the name Pro%essional Parkway. The Commission
directed the City Clerk to send letters to General Elevator,
the Post O%%ice. and the emergency number 911, to inform them
0% the change.
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HIDDEN OAKS DEVE1.0PERS AGREEMENT - CHAR1.ES SNIDER
Mr. Charles Snider requested to be placed on the agenda to
address the Developers Agreement between himself and the City
of Ocoee, particularly paragraph 8. Mr. Snider would like
this paragraph revised to include improvements made south o~
the subJect property along Delaware Street so that the City
will require the landowners, whose real property abuts
Delaware Street, to reiMburse the developer for 1/2 of the
costs expended by the developer in constructing said
improvements: excluding the cost of constructing the
sidewalks along the north right-of-way of Washington and the
south right-of-way of Delaware Street. The City will require
said landowners to make such a reimbursement before any
construction or development activity commences. Mr. Snider
secondly stated they orginally agreed to a one year bond.
Mayor Ison stated presently the Commission requires a two
year bond. Paragraph 4 was changed to required a two (2)
year Maintenance bond. The Commission had no problem with
these changes. Mayor Ison thanked Mr. Snider for the
consession stand he built for the City.
DISCUSSION OF WATER SERVICE HARBOUR HIGHLANDS VI1.LAGE
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Mr. Headley stated the subJect property is currently in the
County. The County has no obJection to the City serving
the proposed subdivision with water service. Mr. Headley
stated they have already obtained a plat approval through
Orange County, and it was his understanding that the City has
the availability and capacity to serve them with water. Mr.
Russ Wagner, City Planner, stated Orange County will do the
in-depth Subdivision Review process and Ocoee will only do a
brief review, as our subdivison regulations are basically the
same. The City will grant approval of the plans subJect to
the City of Ocoee reviewing the plans and the City of Ocoee
will supply the water service. Once Mr. Hedley begins
development of the property, they will annex into the City of
Ocoee and all building permits will be obtained through the
City of Ocoee. Mr. Kruppenbacher questioned whether Orange
County would collect their impa~t fees. Mr. Wagner stated
there would be no impact fees required of the developer. Mr.
Hedley explained they have plans to develop the property to
phase into Sleepy Harbor, by starting with 8000 sq. ft.
lots and 1400 sq. ft. living space, on the property
outlining Sleepy Harbor. The phase of the proJect that Joins
Lake Olympic Townhomes would be designed with 6000 sq. ft.
lots, and 1200 sq. ft. living space. Mr. Hedley assured the
Commission that the homes will be quality homes. The
COMmission strongly obJected to this zoning, and reCOMmended
Mr. Hedley develop the property under R1AA zoning. R1AA
zoning requires the lots to be 9000 sq. ft., and the living
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space to be 1400 sq. ft.. Mr. Headley will have the plan
redone and reflect R1AA zoning. The Commission also discussed
the Recreational Fee Assessment, and straw voted to receive
5% of the total sale versus the 5% land dedication. Comma
Rodgers expressed concern with the 'goose-neck' shown on the
corner lots, the design 0% the streets, and the retention
pond location. Comma Rodgers would pre%er that the retention
pond be located so that there would be minimum exposure to
the lots. Comma Hager stated they would also be required to
%ence the retention pond.
NEGOTIATIONS WITH PRIMA VISTA UTI1.ITIES REF: WOUT P1.ANT
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Mr. Kelley reported that Prima Vista Utilities felt something
could be worked out with the City. Mr. Kelley stated he has
sent a letter to DER describing our negotiations concerning
the plant, and asked for an extension. He stated they will
begin night time surveillance 0% the flows. He reviewed the
water records today, and the flows appear to be in the 40,000
gpd range. Mr. Kelley stated the ground water leaking into
the lines seems to be most noticeable at the wet well in the
pumping station. Mr. Kelley requested the Commission
authorize an expenditure of S800.00 to S2,000.00 to make
improvements to the wet well, to insure the flows are
at a minimum. Comma Rodgers moved to approve up to S2,OOO.00
to make wet well improvements, Comma Johnson seconded, and
the vote carried unanimously.
RENEWA1. OF TRAFFIC SIGNA1. SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH ORANGE
COUNTY
Comma Johnson moved to approve the traffic signal agreement
with Orange County, Comma Rodgers seconded, and the vote
carried unanimously.
REPORTS AND INFORMATION - CITY MANAGER
OVER1.AP OF CITY MANAGER AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER
Comma Rodgers
positions of
days, Comma
unanimously.
moved to extend the overlap of
City Manager and Interim City Manager
Johnson seconded, and the vote
the two
for 90
carried
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Mr. Preston informed the Commission of a sink hole located
off of Russell Drive, which is on private property. Mr. A.
Julian offered the City fill dirt for S3.50 per yard. Mr.
Preston stated the City might want to try putting in fill
dirt before it gets any larger and threatens the right-o%-
way. Mr. Kruppenbacher advised the Commission not to go on
private property. Mr. Kruppenbacher stated the City could
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call Jammal and Associates in case 0% an emergency over the
weekend. Mr. Preston will notizy the property owners of the
offer of fill dirt by Mr. Julian.
F01.L.OW-UP AGENDA
Mr. Preston reminded the Commission of the Joint P & Z
meeting on July 8~ 1986.
CITY ATTORNEY
Mr. Kruppenbacher stated he had received word from a Mr. Dann
who has property within City limits and stated he never
wanted to be in the City. Mr. Kruppenbacher will check with
Mr. Russ Wagner and the City will begin de-annexation
procedures if necessary.
Mr. Kruppenbacher also informed the Commission that he would
like to meet separately with each Commissioner some time in
the near future. He stated the meeting would only take
approximately one hour each.
COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS
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None 0% the Commissioners made any comments.
Mayor lson stated he had been contacted by the Grandmothers
Club in Ocoee. They are asking the Commission zor
authorization to utilize the Lounge area in the Community
Center free 0% charge during the day~ for their approximate
nine meetings per year. The Commission agreed to this use of
the Community Center by the Grandmothers Club.
The meeting was adJourned at
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MAYOR ISON
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