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CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP HELD AUGUST 15, 1988
The workshop was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem Hager at 6:13
p.m. in the commission chambers. Commissioner Dabbs led in prayer
and pledge to the flag. A quorum was declared to be present.
PRESENT: Mayor Ison (arrived at 6:40 p.m.), Mayor Pro Tem Hager,
Commissioners Dabbs and Johnson, City Manager Ryan, Acting City
Clerk Grafton
ABSENT: Commissioner Bateman
Present for the Cemetery Board were: Chairman Woodson, Cemetery
Board Members Bill Breeze, Betty Hager, Nell Minor; and City
employees Buddy Elmore, Garry Smith and Deputy Clerk Marian Green
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Chairman Woodson advised that the Cemetery Board had requested a
meeting in order to determine several things: (1) whether the city
is going to buy land for the cemetery, (understanding that the city
owns land that is not adjacent that may be available,) and (2)
whether the city will provide a caretaker (possibly by contracting
the job out). Chairman Woodson then asked Member Breeze to speak.
Mr. Breeze stated that the response from the City Commission at
their last meeting was possibly negative and the consensus of the
board was that they needed guidance before making plans for
improvement. He said that if the City Commission decides to not
stay in the business they should make that decision while there
are still lots enough to make it attractive to a buyer.
Both Commissioner Dabbs and Commissioner Johnson
surprise that there was a question about staying in the
business.
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cemetery
Chairman Woodson pointed out that the board needs assurance as
well as direction. Does the City Commission intend to buy land,
use only what they have, or what? He said that the word was that
there were no funds available to purchase more land, or that
possibly the adjacent land would not be available. Mayor Pro Tem
Hager said that approximately 100 to 150 more lots in the existing
cemetery were available than originally thought. He then
directed a question to City Manager Ryan regarding progress toward
purchase of land. City Manager Ryan responded that preliminary
discussions that were no more than feelers had taken place, as we
were waiting for the cemetery board to be organized. Both
Commissioner Johnson and Board Member Betty Hager mentioned that
the Eckles property has been proposed as possibly available and
Commissioner Johnson said he had talked to the Hawthorne family
about their property as well.
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Chairman Woodson suggested that a portion of the sale price of
cemetery lots be set aside for maintenance. He added that
possibly the recipients of the benefits of the Over 65 Program
would be interested in donating something toward perpetual care
since they will be receiving the lot free. He also noted the fact
that, although the survey showed that a particular number of
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people who were on the Over 65 Program were interested in
reserving a burial space, the number of people reaching eligible
age continues to grow. City Manager Ryan suggested that if the
purchase of additional property becomes necessary it may be that
the program should be curtailed in the future, as it is not
feasible to buy land in order to give it away. Mayor Pro Tem
Hager noted that the sale of the remaining 300 or so lots will not
finance perpetual care, but that in the future a portion of the
sale price (40% to 50%) should be put in a fund for perpetual
care. He also felt that someone should be in attendance to
protect the site from vandalism. Chairman Woodson mentioned that
if a funeral is scheduled earlier or later than our normal hours
then someone should be paid overtime for tending to it. Mayor Pro
Tem Hager said that the person requiring the service should be
required to pay extra for the accommodation.
Member Betty Hager asked approximately what the time frame is for
the purchase of land, as the price of land will not be going
down. Mayor Pro Tem Hager suggested that we should obtain an
option on land for one year hence. Commissioner Dabbs asked for
the results of the survey of those on the Over 65 Program who were
eligible vs those desiring lots. Deputy Clerk Green replied that
well over one-half of those eligible desired lots. Commissioner
Dabbs asked for the projected time the available lots will sustain
the death rate in the community. City Manager Ryan responded
that there is a three year window. Commissioner Dabbs then asked
what approximate amount of land would be necessary to supply the
needs of the Over 65 Program and the needs of the community.
Board Member Betty Hager remarked that, since in the beginning
only water and garbage were provided and then cemetery lots were
added later to the program, possibly the program should be
modified to exclude cemetery lots now. During the ensuing
conversation, Commissioner Dabbs asked what would be a reasonable
time to stop giving cemetery lots and he asked for the dates
involved in the adoption of the Over 65 Program to be provided.
Other points that were discussed were:
(1) that a section for cremains would be an efficient use of
space,
(2) that the little fences and other non-conforming decorations
should be dealt with, (In response to this City Manager Ryan asked
just how forceful Commission wants administration to be regarding
gravesite decoration, as the lack of clear direction from city
hall to the citizens regarding this matter in the past has caused
some enforcement problems, and no solution in this sensitive area
was given.)
(3) that a legal survey of the available lots is necessary,
(4) that the City should have first refusal on resale of the
lots,
(5) that the $10,000 budgeted for maintenance at the cemetery is
scheduled for upgrading the entrance and general upkeep,
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(6) that Member Betty Hager will contact the Eckles family and
Hawthorne family regarding the availability of the adjacent
property and report back to the board.
(7) that buying 5 acres would possibly solve the problem for a
while, considering the raised rates.
City Manager Ryan suggested that once the price per acre and
number of lots per acre were determined the cost of the lots and
the development could be put back into paying for it and the city
subsidy could be the perpetual care, and in order to generate the
money for the purchase, the cost of the lots could be pledged to
the bank.
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Mayor Ison arrived at 6:40 p.m. and was briefed by Mayor Pro Tem
Hager regarding earlier conversation regarding the size of the
cemetery and that Chairman Woodson suggested that the City already
owns property that could be used for additional cemetery space.
Mayor Ison advised that the Tri City Airport Authority had sold
the property Chairman Woodson had referred to. Board Member Breeze
advised that the City bought back a portion of the land. Mayor
Ison noted that the East/West Expressway will come close by that
portion.
RECESS: Recess was called at 6:57 p.m.
RECONVENE: Workshop reconvened at 7:13 p.m.
Mayor Ison announced that the purpose of this workshop is to give
the Commissioners an opportunity to discuss, and make further
revisions to, the budget that was presented at the last meeting by
City Manager Ryan. He further stated that after City Manager
Ryan gives an overview of the budget and the Commissioners give
their responses the citizens will have an opportunity to comment.
The budget will be tentatively adopted at a later meeting.
Mayor Ison noted here that all Commissioners are present with the
exception of Commissioner Bateman, who is absent due to an illness
in his family.
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City Manager Ryan, after expressing his appreciation to Mayor and
Commissioners and citizens, advised that he had submitted a 5.
mill levy at the last meeting and after surveying the surrounding
cities' millage had asked our department heads (even though their
proposed budgets were considerably less than last year) to reduce
their budgets by 10% which would have eliminated the need for tax
increase. As a point of reference he indicated that the printout
of the proposed budget prepared for this meeting is identical to
the one prepared for the August 2 meeting with the exception that
the expenditures are adjusted to date to provide a better trend
line. City Manager Ryan noted that, on the first page, the cash
carry forward amount has been increased by $10,900. On page 3 an
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anticipated increase of $25,000 has been noted as the occupational
license ordinance is about to be on the agenda for 2nd reading and
approval, and as the fees have been raised, that item should be
increased. Building permits were re-evaluated and raised by
$15,000. A small adjustment of $500 for alcoholic beverage
licenses was made. The item for public safety was in error and
should have been $16,000 (the $14,000 listed was scribbler's
error) . On page 5 the item on comprehensive land use amendment
should have been $6,000 instead of $12,000. On page 6 fines and
forfeitures should be increased by $18,000. These adjustments
give an overall adjustment to revenues of $65,400. On the
expenditure side, on page 4, City Manager Ryan suggests a decrease
of $4,800 in finance and administration for equipment. On pages 6
and 7 the item on comprehensive planning should be increased by
$3,525 due to errors in aggregating data for levels of staffing
proposed. On page 10 the items amounting to $63,700 for Public
Works Director can be transferred to the Bond Fund. Bowness Road,
Clark Road and other projects that are on line can all be used to
pay the salary of the Public Works Director. On page 13 a summary
of the reduction of $61,450 includes $40,300 in personnel (loss of
2 dispatchers due to attrition) and elimination of $21,250 in
vehicle replacement. On page 15 items for fire control can be
reduced by $3,000 for reserve salary and $52,000 in vehicle
replacement for a total reduction of $55,000. City Manager Ryan
suggested a fire impact fee be initiated in order to build a fund
for replacement of vehicles. On page 20 there were no reductions,
but rather an increase of $2,000 for training for the maintenance
garage personnel as this item was omitted in the original
printout. On pages 22 and 23, items for parks and recreation, the
suggested adjustments resulting in a total reduction of $11,000
are as follows: electric - reduce $5,000, bus repair and fuels -
reduce $1,000, youth center maintenance - reduce $1,000,
park/beach - reduce $7,000, Peach Lake - reduce $1,000, J.
Vignetti Park - reduce $7,000, Foxfire Sr. League field - increase
$25,000, park improvements - reduce $11,000, equipment - reduce
$3,000. City Manager Ryan then advised that with reallocation of
$52,725 from reserve for contingency and with the adjustment in
revenues of a reduction of the mill levy from 5 mills to 4 mills
the budget would be in balance.
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In summation, the foregoing represents an overall reduction in
expenditures of $190,425. The mill levy would be reduced by
$187,350, personal property tax would be reduced by $15,750 for a
total of $203,100 in property tax reduction. City Manager Ryan
advised that he had looked at revenues and could see no way to
increase them, and expenditures cannot be reduced any further
without reducing services. There are no new personnel included in
the projected budget except for a new finance person.
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Mayor Ison said he had a challenge to present to City Manager and
staff and that was to reduce expenditures and/or increase revenues
enough to amount to another 236,400 in the budget in order to keep
the millage at 2.8. Mayor Ison said that all municipal
government budgets are going into a crunch for three reasons:
(1) because Federal Revenue Sharing is gone, as well as CETA,
(2) because of the mandated programs the State of Florida has put
on municipal governments without providing funds, and (3) because
of the cost of providing services for the citizens. He further
stated that growth should take care of itself and the City should
be able to make up the shortage by reducing expenses rather than
raising millage. He noted the progress made in that the problems
that used to confront us in the past with water and flooding are
no longer there because of improvements that have been made. Mayor
Ison asked Finance Director Poston if there were any other revenue
projections he could make that could be considered at this time,
and if not, would he explain to the citizens how he arrived at the
figures that have been presented.
Finance Director Poston advised that the figures are based on a
trend from the recent years, and, except for the ad valorem tax
and cigarette tax, the figures provided by the Florida League of
Cities less 5% are used, because the law permits only 95% of
projected income to be budgeted.
Mayor Ison stated that in 1975 the State of Florida passed
stringent growth regulation laws and by 1992 cities will begin to
fold, because those cities that do not make capital improvements
as required in those laws will no longer receive the revenue
sharing funds which make up a large portion of their income.
City Manager Ryan cautioned Commissioners that, regarding cash
flow, if they reduced to no tax increase, they would be in a
position to have no cash next year as the $137,000 cash brought
forward which represents the 10% water utility tax that had not
been transferred for several years before would not be there to
transfer again. We have also spent our savings account.
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Mayor Ison pointed out that we need to hold off on spending until
the third quarter each year. After futher discussion on revenues
Mayor Ison remarked that a special tax will be initiated to cover
the cost of caring for new development which will appear only on
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the tax bills for those new residents, and that will cover the
cost of mowing and taking care of drainage for the new areas.
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As attention was turned to expenditures, Mayor Ison said that
community promotion should be cut to zero, and that when citizens
call city hall requesting to be put on the agenda to ask for funds
they should be advised that there are no funds available. This
includes the fair which the City has in the past supported with a
cash donation. Ultimately, the consensus was to leave the fund at
$3,500 in order to have placques to award, etc. However, Mayor
Ison requested that a score card be kept for the year so that all
would know exactly the amount left in the fund at all times.
This budget request was decreased by $3,700. The next item
considered was books/subscriptions which was decreased by $600.The
employee Christmas party was decreased by $6,500 with Commissioner
Dabbs' assurance that he will be looking for a sponsor. The next
item decreased was equipment on page 4, which was reduced by
an additional $18,200. Legal expenses were decreased by $40,000.
Commmissioner Hager drew applause at this point when he suggested
limiting the meetings to 9:30 p.m. in order to keep this cost
down. There was extended discussion regarding the planning
position which has not yet been filled, but no changes in the
proposed budget resulted from the discussion. City Manager Ryan
pointed out that future plans call for a percentage charge to
developers for projects which will bring in substantial revenue.
A car allowance was also proposed for the planning director rather
than purchasing a new vehicle, and City Manager Ryan indicated
that he was trying to set up a management pool of vehicles to
reduce expenses. There is no sick leave buyout scheduled. There
was budgeted however, provision to bring to C step all those
eligible employees and a 2.5% across the board increase, and City
Manager Ryan recommended that, if a choice had to be made, the C
step move should take priority. On page 8, the Maguire House
renovation amount of $100,000 was moved to reserve for
contingency. The plan is to approach private businesses for
painting, windows, etc and enlist the aid of citizens for
renovation. The $90,000 reserve for salaries was retitled
"reserve for salaries contingency." The law enforcement
reductions have already been listed except for the $5,000 reserved
for crack crime program which was deleted from the budget at this
point. On page 20, the projected use of the electronic tuning
machine was determined to be too limited to justify keeping it,
so the training monies were left in the budget but not for that
machine. Mayor Ison noted that it's time to have a surplus sale
which will bring in some money and also free up some space. On
page 22, the house at J. Vignetti Park was reduced $11,000.
As consideration of the Senior League field came up Mayor Ison
thanked Tom Hendrix, who was present in the audience, for the many
hours of work he put in the Senior League field last year. The
$30,000 designated here was reduced by $5,000. On page 36
vehicle replacement was decreased by $10,500 and reserve for
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contingency was increased a like amount for the water department.
It was determined that about 5% increase in sanitation fee over
the $1.00 increase already projected was needed to build a
contingency fund of $28,000 for the sanitation department. Mayor
Ison instructed City Manager Ryan to handle the sanitation
department like the other enterprise funds and check with the
county to see how they anticipate handling solid waste disposal so
that we can be prepared. The wastewater department is reported to
actually have positive cash flow. There were no budget cuts in
this department, but considerable discussion about re-evaluating
the billing for service for private lift stations.
RECESS AT 9:50 P.M.
RECONVENE AT 10:20 P.M.
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When Mayor Ison reconvened the meeting he pointed out that they
were $68,000 away from being able to keep 2.8 millage. He then
noted that there were several things necessary to do soon: (1)
bond refinancing, and (2) restructure sanitation rates. He also
said that the expenses incurred by the City should be passed on to
the people who cause the expenses with lawyers, engineering,
public works director, etc.; ie: (1) new developers (2) potential
developers, and (3) those who came before City for work and have
not developed. He felt that the City should add a 3%
administrative cost. Mayor Ison stated that he was comfortable
with what had been accomplished and asked City Manager Ryan to
find another $100,000 to cut. Mayor Ison advised that he would
like to see a mini-budget review on the agenda each month for
discussion. He would also prefer that a policy be adopted whereby
all purchases are deferred until the third quarter and only
salaries, insurance, raises to take care of employees, and
utilities are paid until then.
Commissioner Dabbs asked about the Charter provision that funds
cannot be carried over. City Manager Ryan advised that allocated
funds not spent go into general fund and can be redesignated.
Mayor Ison asked if any Commissioner had a problem with the
proposed policy. City Manager Ryan stated that he had already
asked the supervisors to delay the purchasing of anything
possible. Mayor Ison said that the budget has been cut and it
will be possible to keep the 2.8 millage, but it will be necessary
to say no to requests.
CITIZENS COMMENTS
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Mr. John Linebarier said that he was surprised that he hasn't
heard more comments on budget cuts, particularly those involving
police cars. He believes the police department does need one more
vehicle. Mr. Linebarier stated that he did call Commissioner
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Bateman and Commissioner Hager when he received the proposed tax
bill because he thought 5 mills was too high, but 2.8 is extreme
in the other direction. He is familiar with state surprises with
mandates and requirements and we never know when they will come in
with new demands. However, Mr. Linebarier did not feel that 3.2
mills would be out of line, because he remembers when it was 10
mills. He said if you can make a good budget and meet unexpected
expenses then that's wonderful, but something like Lake Moxie
could come up. He feels that a modest increase in millage rate
will be all right with citizens in order to maintain the level of
service that has been established.
Mr. Roger Freeman expressed his appreciation for the
Commissioners' attempts to cut the budget and hold the millage
down. He said that he has a year to go with new developments and
he has new acres coming in to the City. He has talked to other
developers and he knows that the City will be in great shape in
two years. Mr. Freeman suggested that the attorneys use lower
priced people to do research. He said that he is not opposed to
developer's fees, but to please give some slack to developers. He
also suggested considering using high mileage vehicles as pool
cars. And regarding the Maguire house, he knows that money can
come from the private sector with himself, Mayor Ison, and City
Manager Ryan to ask for funds. As for parks, things like blocks
and dirt can be scrounged for. Mr. Freeman thanked the
Commissioners for their time and efforts and promised to help
scrounge.
Mayor Ison thanked Mr. Freeman for his words and his promise to
help scrounge.
Mrs. Deborah Bracknell, 408 Hager Drive, said she does not
understand where the money went. Mrs. Bracknell quoted several
different lines in the budget report which showed expenditures
considerably less than budgeted and yet the word is that there is
no money left. She felt that someone should be accountable for
the scrambling that happens every time the budget comes around.
City Manager Ryan explained that, even though the budget shows
that ten months into the budget year some funds still show moneys
available, unexpected and unbudgeted expenditures have drained the
reserves. Mrs. Bracknell pointed out that, in order to leave the
ad valorem tax at 2.8 mills, commissioners were discussing raising
water/garbage tax, and she felt that tax is tax. Mayor Ison
explained the difference in ad valorem tax and a user fee designed
to pay for the cost of providing a service to the citizens. Mrs.
Bracknell raised a question regarding the people who use the parks
and recreation facilities paying for their use. Mayor Ison
advised that the children who use the recreation system
are not required to pay traditionally, but that the league teams
do pay a fee that helps to cover the expense incurred by the City
for lights and upkeep on the fields. Mrs. Bracknell asked why the
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Planner could not use the figures reported in 1985 for the
beginning of the comprehensive plan which is due to be submitted
in 1990, as that would save money and time. She was advised that
the ground rules change each time the legislature meets. Mrs.
Bracknell asked that the City inform the citizens regarding the
things that are going on in government so that they could write
letters and possibly influence the State governing bodies before
the votes are cast. Mayor Ison advised that, though good in
theory, in practice that would be very difficult as the electronic
letter he received on Monday referenced the items that were to be
voted on the next day. Mayor Ison expressed appreciation for the
interest shown and City Manager Ryan said that staff had
attempted to do a quarterly news letter this year, but that staff
time and funds just were not available. Mayor Ison said that it
would be possible and timely to use the fifteen minute breaks
during regular meetings to give a legislative overview for the
first six months of the year. Mrs. Bracknell said that she would
like to see the records for the receipts and expenditures of the
parks and recreation department and was advised to come in the
next day and see Finance Director Poston who would make the
information available to her.
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Ms Cathy Pollack, 613 Spring Lake Circle, cautioned commissioners
to raise ad valorem tax if necessary, but to please not cut down
on police and fire protection. She said that, since all the
socially redeeming features had been cut from the budget, at least
the commission should take care of those departments.
Mr. John Linebarier, 1308 Center Street, inquired about the status
of the fire/police impact fees. City Manager Ryan advised that
the fees were fixed but left in limbo, as state legislators were
to come out with rules on impact fees that would negate anything
the City had programmed.
Mayor Ison asked City Manager Ryan if he understood
Commission's direction for the budget, and his response was
he would crunch dollars and meet again.
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ADJO~ENT
The workshop adjourned
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Thomas R. Ison, Mayor
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