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CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP SESSION AUGUST 23, 1988
Mayor Ison called the workshop to order at 6:00 p.m. in the
commission chambers.
Present: Mayor Ison; Commissioners Bateman, Dabbs, Hager,
and Johnson; City Manager Ryan, City Clerk Jean Grafton and
Associate City Planner Holly Myers.
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City Manager Ryan presented copies of the budget with corrections
from the last meeting and asked for questions or comments from the
Commission. Mayor Ison had a previous question with regard to the
Administrative overhead fees to be transferred from the utility
accounts to the general fund. Mr. Ryan explained that water has
always been taxed as a utility but sanitation service is not a
utility and therefore has not been taxed. Mayor Ison read into
the records from a letter from the City Manager in a previous
year, "Our policy remains one of growth paying for growth." He
said he wanted it understood that that policy has not changed. He
also read into the record a portion of a letter from the Office of
Planning and Budget, "Since 1983 our population in the State of
Florida has increased on an average of 360,600 people per year or
990 per day. Out of that number, an average of 320,000 have moved
in and 40,000 are a number of births over deaths." Mayor Ison
stated that last meeting the Commissioners went through the budget
and pulled out some small and medium sized items and got up to
$167,000 of expenditures. He expressed that this is not a bare
bones budget. He noted that on Page 37 of Sanitation, last year
the actual column read $465,000. $495,000 was budgeted and
the City has expended year to date $427,433 or 86.1%.
$612,000 was requested and $645,000 was approved. Under
Account 5500, the landfill costs went from $138,000, budgeted at
$120,000 last year, 98% of that fund has already been expended
($118,000). $156,000 was requested for landfill costs for
this year and $160,000 was approved. He is wondering what the
landfill costs for next year will be. Mayor Ison asked how many
tons we carry to the dump yearly, and what the rate will be this
year (as rate has already escalated from $7.50 to $17.50 per ton
this last year). Manager Ryan advised that he will research and
upon direction from Commission will prepare a proposed rate
increase.
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Commissioner Bateman noted that Orlando is experimenting with the
separation in solid waste and about 50% of the citizens
participate. He wants us to inquire about, and/or apply for,
grants or programs for the cities requiring this. He also
wants to look at increased rates and he discussed getting rid of
plastic bags that last forever. He suggested that possibly the
City could supply trash bags that will disintegrate. Mayor Ison
advised that the land fills will no longer receive yard clippings
and that also there is an additional $.50 charge for tires. He
said that we no longer have a choice, we must initiate a
recycling plan by 1991.
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Mr. Bateman asked if the policy of maintaining a cost of living
for City employees is still in the budget. City Manager Ryan
responded that an allocation of about 2.5% was placed in the
budget and has been merged into the unappropriated cash reserves.
Commissioner Johnson asked about police and fire department
budget. City Manager Ryan explained what steps were taken with
decreases in personnel and equipment. Mayor Ison discussed the
increases in revenue for the police and fire departments from 1984
until now. City Manager Ryan discussed the $137,000 cash carry
forward figure and explained that it will be more in the range of
$100,000 and it will be $37,000 short, and that it could
be reduced from $185,000 to $150,000 in round figures. He
stated that there are alternatives and ways to look at the budget.
Commissioner Hager suggested impact fees and development within
the City so as to live within the bUdget. Commissioner Bateman
says he will certainly support going above the millage of 2.8 as a
"safety net." He said he thinks moving from 2.8 to 3.5 is good in
order to supply a cushion and he is uncomfortable with cutting it
that thin. Mayor Ison calculated that an increase from 2.8 to 3.5
would be $137,000. City Manager Ryan referred them to page 2
and explained how they calculated the increase. Mayor Ison asked
if the millage rate is raised where would the extra money go.
Commissioner Hager suggested a contingency and Commissioner Dabbs
added that the City would have to be austere with the funds in the
budget. Commissioner Bateman asked that the amount generated by
the raised millage be placed on another line on the budget
printout for easy identification and City Manager Ryan said that
it would appear as reserve for contingency on line 4901.
City Manager Ryan said that if 3.5 millage was a consensus,
would begin preparing the budget booklets for the meeting
must be scheduled to adopt a tentative budget.
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A special session was scheduled for August 30, 1988 to adopt the
tentative budget.
The budget portion of the workshop ended at 6:46 p.m.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
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Associate Planner Holly Myers advised Commission that, in order to
retain our grant monies, the following elements are required to be
completed by December 30, 1988: (1) the population projection,
(2) the land use element, (3) the conservation element, (4) the
open space and recreation element. She reported that the land use
element is approximately 20% complete, and nothing else has been
started. There is no staff available and also no prospects that
the two to three people needed could be acquired and equipped for
timely submission of the reports. The land use portion alone will
call for approximately 940 hours of work and a portion of the
population projections and mapping would need to be consulted out
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as well as certain portions of the conservation element. Associate
Planner Myers suggested that Commissioners request proposals for
the entire work products that are due. This is in addition to the
proposed staff who would be needed to monitor the work of the
consultants.
Mayor Ison said that the reason we have a planning department now
is because the estimate from consultants for part of the initial
plan ran from $90,000 to $190,000 and the thought was that having
a planner in-house would reduce the cost considerably.
Associate Planner Myers said that there is no way for current
staff to accomplish completion. The transportation master plan
study is now with PEC and it is being done in 9J5 format. The
workload projections she has provided ( 23.5 person work weeks for
land use element, for instance) were calculated with staff knowing
the City and not having a problem getting information and being
able to work up to speed.
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City Manager Ryan advised that of applicants already interviewed
the first choice declined because of projected work load, one who
was hired and came on board left after only one week.
Mayor Ison advised that he had talked with Mike Cavanaugh,
Administrator of Technical Assistance with DCA and will consult
with him again regarding what they anticipate with regards to the
workload.
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The due date for submitting was originally October 30 and we
already have received a verbal 2 months extension. City Manager
Ryan advised that $15,000 of the state grant remains unallocated.
He suggested using a portion of the grant funds toward the
consulting fees in order to get back on time schedule. Mayor Ison
observed that that much money would not cover many hours of
consulting fees. City Manager Ryan said that Ms. Myers full time is
taken up with current planning and support staff is overtaxed as
well. He said that he will be asking for a director, 2 planners
and consulting services in order to get the reports to state on
time. He further stated that our ability to issue building
permits, and approve development plans and have the growth to give
the revenue needed to get out of the current financial trend could
well be ceased as well as the use of state funds if we do not get
back on track. He also reiterated that the anticipated work load
had already caused at least two prospective employees to not work
here. Mr. Swickerath, who was present at some of the interviews,
confirmed this.
Commissioner Bateman indicated that all the information is avail-
able and that it shouldn't take as many hours as projected to sim-
ply record it in whatever form the state requires and send it in.
He also said to get a planner as previously directed. Yesterday.
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Mayor Ison said he's ready to get a tablet and get the job done,
as he recalls sitting on the board which did the previous plan.
City Manager advised that the technology necessary to prove to the
state that the steps have been gone through make the job more
complicated than that approach would satisfy.
Commissioner Dabbs very firmly stated that in March the
Commissioners directed City Manager Ryan to hire a planner and he
does not understand why it still has not been done. City Manager
Ryan said that administration had been directed to hire a
planner and that he had instructed City Planner Wagner to follow
through with it as he was the person who had justified the need
for additional staff and he did not do it.
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Attorney Woodson observed that the Commission is uncomfortable
with the deadline and with hiring consultants because of the cost
and the idea of having an outside person develop a plan for Ocoee.
He said further that Associate Planner Myers is giving her
estimate of what it takes to develop a plan for the City of Ocoee
not just to meet the state requirements but to meet what the City
needs. He said that as the City's attorney, he can keep the state
off City's back if City will at least make a timely effort and
turn in a report with at least the titles on the pages. However,
even though it is possible for him to keep the City consistent
with what the state requires it is not realistic to expect the
City to do the kind of comprehensive plan the City needs any time
this fall with the present workload.
Mayor Ison thanked Associate Planner Myers and said that when the
meeting starts the first thing to be done is to request a two
months extension and second, he will find out where we stand in
relation to other communities with regards to filing and come back
and sit down and help get the report out of the ground. He said
the thing to do is notify planning and zoning board that there
will be several meetings called to work on the plan and get to it.
Commissioner Dabbs asked if there is a trade off with Orlando or
the county. City Manager Ryan stated that there was a possibility
there and also that the City is entitled to $15,000 more on the
grant this year and also entitled to $20,000 more on the planning
grant next year. The greatest bulk of that can be applied to
solve the problem.
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commissioner Bateman said he wants to quit requiring of our
planners beyond their ability to produce, and he is, in fact, in
favor of a moratorium.
Mr. Swickerath emphasized that it is important that the work be
done professionally, and not allow the person or consultant be
distracted by the myriad of other important things that are going
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on that need to be done also.
City Manager Ryan advised that he has asked Associate Planner
Myers to prepare a schedule so that all involved will be able to
know when the deadlines for each step are and prepare accordingly.
ADJOURNMENT
The workshop adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
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Planning Department
Edward J. Williams, Director
201 South Rosalind Avenue, 2nd Floor
Reply To: Post Office Box 1393
Orlando, Florida 32802-1393
Telephone (407) 236-5600
County
August 16, 1988
Thomas Ison, Mayor
City of Ocoee
150 North Lakeshore Drive
Ocoee, Florida 32761
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Subject: Proposed Rezoning by the City of Ocoee
CITY OF OCOEE.
Dear Mayor Ison & Commission Members:
The Orange County Planning Department has reviewed the proposed
rezonings by the City of Ocoee. We have concerns about Cases
7C-88, 8C-88, 10C-88, 11C-88 and 13C-88. On July 26, 1988, the
County obj ected to the proposed land use amendments for these
properties and, at this time, we would like to restate our
objections.
CASE #07C-88 and #08C-88
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Case #07C-88 is an eleven (11) acre parcel located on the ~
side of Ocoee-Apopka Road, approximately 1,320 feet north of Palm
Drive, and Case #08C-88 is a five (5) acre parcel located on the
east side of Ocoee-Apopka Road, approximately 900 feet north of
Silver Star Road. These proposals are discussed jointly due to
their proximity and similar land use requests. The requested
zoning on both parcels of property is Industrial (Ind-2).
Industrial activities at either of these locations are
inappropriate and inconsistent with surrounding land use. The
County's Future Land Use Designation for the subject properties
and surrounding County area is Low Density Residential (single
family housing).
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The existing City and County zoning in the area is indicative of
the Future Land Use Designation, as it is either residential or
agricul tural. The present zoning in proximity to the subject
parcels is R-1A (single family detached - 7,500 square foot lot
area), R-T-l (mobile home subdivisions - 6,000 square foot lot
area), and A-I and A-2 (Agricultural). Although agricultural uses
may no longer be viable or desirable by the property owners, any
land use other than low density residential would be incompatible
with the desired development pattern, as well as incompatible with
the existing land use character. Non-residential land use, as
specified in the Orange County Growth Management Policy, should
locate at appropriate locations, such as at intersections on roads
with adequate capacity for these uses, and where similar type uses
exist. The noise, lights and traffic associated with industrial
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Thomas Ison
Proposed Rezoning by
the City of Ocoee
August 16, 1988
uses can adversely impact the health, safety and general welfare
of the area residents. Neither parcel is located at, or in
proximi ty to, an intersection, nor contiguous to an industrial,
commercial or high density residential use. There are more
appropriate locations in the Ocoee area for industrial uses. Palm
Drive should be used as the northern boundary for industrial type
uses. Orange County obj ects to the proposed zoning for these
parcels.
CASE #10C-88
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The County opposes commercial and high density residential uses on
Maguire Road, south of the Turnpike. A low density residential
development would be more consistent with the character of the
area since it could serve as a transition between the County's --...
Rural Service Area and the higher densities wi thin the City of (z)
Ocoee. The proposed densities are premature in this area and
there are more appropriate locations wi thin the City for the
proposed uses and densities, such as State Road 50. The rezoning
is inconsistent with the County's land use designation of one (1)
unit per two (2) acres. In addition, the Joint Planning Area is
designed to promote consistency of land uses between the County
and City, and provide a logical, coordinated planning approach to
land use decisions. The approval of this project would be
inconsistent with the purpose and goals of a Joint Planning Area
Agreement.
We strongly urge you to limit this development to low density
residential uses.
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The proposed residential zoning is consistent with the County
Growth Management Policy and the West state Road 50 Plan, but the
commercial zoning is in conflict with County policies.
CASE #11C-88
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The most appropriate commercial activity for the area is depicted
on the West State Road 50 strategic Development Plan. Additional
commercial locations will create adverse impacts to the
transportation network, particularly located as proposed in this
rezoning. The subject property is proximate to two (2) off-ramps
of the East/West Expressway, one at Good Homes Road, the other at
state Road 50 (just west of the proposed commercial). In addition
to the conflicting turning movements from these ramps, there will
be traffic on State Road 50 and turning movements from vehicles on
Good Homes Road. The high traffic generated from commercial
activity will only aggravate an anticipated traffic congested
area. In the interest of public safety and welfare, the
recommendations of the State Road 5 S ,iC Dev m nt Plan~<1
should be maintained. 'Cc>I'if1f1-" ~" ,.,., ~
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Thomas Ison
Proposed Rezoning by
the City of Ocoee
August 16, 1988
Mul ti-family land use at this location is viable and should be
encouraged. A goal of the City's is diversification housing type,
i.e., an appropriate mix of single and mUlti-family dwellings.
MUlti-family uses should be encouraged adjacent to major roads to
adequately accommodate the related traffic generation. Thus, such
locations should be reserved for mUlti-family use, instead of
allowing strip commercial development pat7rns.
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CASE #13C-88 I'"
The land use proposal for this nine (9) acre parcel, located south
of state Road 50 approximately 1/8 mile west of Good Homes Road,
is commercial. This parcel is designated high density residential
in the West state Road 50 Strategic Development Plan area. Orange
County objects to a commercial zoning at this location. This
proposal violates the land use both governments agreed upon, as
developed in the West state Road 50 strategic Development Plan.
The plan identifies appropriate locations for commercial uses
based on land use compatibility and transportation network
availabili ty and adequacy. The subj ect property was determined
unsuitable for commercial use because its location would promote
strip commercialization along State Road 50. The West state Road
50 strategic Development Plan represents the most efficient and
effective land use plan. Deviation from the plan will promote
future policy diversions.
In summary, we urge you to reconsider the approval of commercial
uses at this location, even though your land use amendments have
been submitted to the Florida Department of Community Affairs.
Thank you for your consideration of our concerns.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
Sincerely,
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Planning Director
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cc: Thomas Sewell, County Administrator
Teddy Ryan, Ocoee City Manager
Holly Hunter, Ocoee Associate Planner
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