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MINUTBS OF THB CITY OF OCOBB CITY COMMISSION BUDGBT WORKSHOP HELD
AUGUST 16, 1989
Mayor Pro Tem Dabbs called the budget workshop to order at 7:35
p.m. in the city hall conference room and then asked City Manager
Shapiro to begin his briefing.
PRISBNT: Mayor Ison (arrived at 7:45 p.m.),Mayor Pro Tem Dabbs,
Commissioners Combs, Hager and Johnson, City Manager Shapiro, City
Engineer Shira, Finance Director Poston, City Clerk Grafton
ABSBNT: None
City Manager Shapiro began by presenting the organizational chart
as it is now, and as he intends for it to be, explaining that
there have been a few changes made since he arrived. City Manager
Shapiro proposes:
Adding 6 positions which will be funded by general
government (3 fire and 3 police) and another position funded by
building department monies;
Moving Teresa Braddy to the building department
will also assist the code enforcement officer; keeping
examiner until January 1 when the computer system is in:
building inspector:
Keeping staff in the planning department the same:
Making the public works director responsible for the men
who were supervisors and who are now foremen: (assistant
supervisor positions no longer exist);
Retaining the garage but reducing that department by 1
position as his research indicates that sending the work out would
not be a saving;
Reducing
in the police
doing away with
Changing
secretary:
Leaving the buyer in the finance department: giving Teri
Batts the title of finance supervisor (over the two billing
clerks);
Making Robert Holland utilities superintendent, John
Cockrell supervisor over plants and Jackie Bell collection-
distribution supervisor, with a goal of all utilities employees
qualified in both water and wastewater fields:
Mowing will be done by parks, parkways, trees and
department except for waste water and city hall right
Leaving grounds keeper with recreation department
facilities and ball fields.
where she
the plans
adding 1
1 lieutenant's position (to sergeant's position)
department in order to add a street person, and
the chief dispatcher position:
Barbara Spainhoward's title to administrative
drainage
now:
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In addition to these proposals, City Manager Shapiro said that
there will be no police vehicles taken home by employees who live
outside the city limits of Ocoee and the number of public works
and utility vehicles taken home will be limited to direct
emergency needs only.
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This budget is based on 900 units being built this year - not
including Clark Road. A 5 year projection indicates an increase of
12,000 to 13,000 additional citizens. In order to serve the needs
for the increased population, City Manager Shapiro proposes an
additional 22 firemen, including 1 fire suppression captain and
possibly a full time chief by the time a third fire station is in
use. At this point in his presentation a discussion regarding the
need for both a full time fire chief and full time recreation
director ensued. City Manager Shapiro indicated that in order to
wait for Mr. Beech to be available full time he would prefer to
hire a daytime recreation supervisor but at a later date rather
than now. Mayor Ison felt that there is definitely a need to have
a daytime program, that it will support itself, and he should
begin sooner but agreed that next year at the appropriate time for
activities to begin would do. Returning to the fire department
needs, City Manager Shapiro stressed the importance of a strong
fire inspection program in order to keep fires from happening. He
said also that ordinances for both sprinkler systems and fire
impact fees would be forthcoming soon. He also will provide the
figures for the cost of a full time fire chief for Commission
before the next meeting.
Regarding utilities, City Manager Shapiro said that it will be
necessary to add several people in order to comply with the laws
as the city grows. He also stated that we are trying the use of
master meters in multi-unit dwellings in order to cut down on
meter reading time. Mayor Ison suggested that automated meter
reading facilities be considered in new growth areas, and also a
tarriff on master meters. City Manager Shapiro stated that the
use of outside engineering firms for review can be reduced and he
is suggesting hiring another engineer for inspections sometime
during the 5 year program. This position will be part of the bond
issue. Mr. Shapiro is also considering a drainage utility, but
whether it will be positioned under the direction of the public
works or engineering has not yet been determined. There was some
discussion regarding cablevision inspection.
The recreation department will increase by 11 people to support
the added daytime recreation and an additional 6 fields.
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The police department will increase by 29 people in order to care
for traffic needs, school liaison officers, dispatching, etc.
There may eventually be a director of administration over
everybody in city hall and the buying clerk position will become
the purchasing agent who has complete control over all buying.
The personnel department should be 3 people by then and the
clerk should have a deputy and 2 stenographers in order to
the minutes of all meetings.
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take
The city manager office would not change other than to add a
secretary and an assistant.
The finance director will need an accountant, 1 more billing clerk
and 2 accounting clerks. Data processing will be divorced from
the finance department and will consist of a data processing
manager, a programmer, and 3 computer operators, and the
department will run 24 hours a day.
In the planning and zoning department a senior planner should be
retained in order to deal with the comprehensive plan
issues, and a zoning administrator will be needed to deal with the
more complicated issues that will naturally follow the growth.
In the building department 6 inspectors will be needed, and a
plans examiner as well.
Over all the payroll would go from 128 to 266 employees with each
department increased in size.
There are three major projects moving earth now, and there will be
another three ready the first of the year.
In going through the budget workbook, City Manager Shapiro pointed
out that there are four increments of high cost: 1) 1/2 of
the proposed 1 mill increase will go toward the over 65 program
due to the change that has been made to take those funds from
general government rather than utilities; 2) the need for a good
personnel policy and good job descriptions in order to reduce
turnover: 3) the $5,000 cost per person for health insurance, (one
of the steps he proposes to take to reduce the rates is to require
pre-employment physicals, and another step is to require physicals
for police/fire employees every other year, and Mayor Ison
suggested that all employees of over 10 years have physicals each
year): and 4) the need for a better data retrieval system.
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City Manager Shapiro noted that on page A-3 of the budget
workbook, he has proposed the following revenue/expenditure
figures: General Fund-$4,436,200; Water Fund-$2,493,650:
Sanitation Fund-$688,800; Wastewater Fund-$7,485,650, which
includes approximately $7,000,000 in capitol improvements for the
water/wastewater departments.
Commissioner Combs asked about the legal figure compared to 1986-
1988. City Manager Shapiro responded that there were heavy duty
lawsuits in the past that caused those figures to be so high and
that our representatives with Foley & Lardner are settling in and
are good attorneys.
Mayor Ison compared the figures on page B-1 with figures he had
received from Florida League of Cities and City Manager Shapiro
advised that he had used 95% of their figures in all cases as he
knew their figures to be in error. Mayor Ison noted that Lake
Apopka Natural Gas has indicated that they wish to come into the
City of Ocoee and asked that they be contacted.
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There were questions regarding the increased figures to $4,500 for
concession stands and $6,000 program activity fees. City Manager
Shapiro said that he would ask Recreation Director Beech for the
basis of the increase and report back to Commission.
City Manager Shapiro pointed out that on page B-5 the proposed
General Government expenditures total $4,436,200. Mayor Ison said
he wanted to be sure that he is not on the City insurance as he is
covered by Southern Bell. City Manager Shapiro said that he will
present a career incentive program for schooling (not job
training) using a committee made up of the city manager, one
employee, and one commissioner to review the applications for
schooling reimbursement. The scale to be used for reimbursement
will be 100% for an A, 75' or 80' for a B, 50% for a C, and for a
grade of D or below there will be no reimbursement. Mayor Ison
pointed out that there should also be a provision that the
employee remain with the City for two years after incurring the
expense.
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In reviewing the expenditure summary list on page B-6, City
Manager Shapiro pointed out that the Cemetery Committee had
strongly recommended that, as the original Over 65 Program had not
included free cemetery lots, that provision should be removed from
the Over 65 benefits. The recommendation was to have everybody pay
the same amount for cemetery lots so that some day the cemetery
can be maintained in perpetuity. A lengthy discussion ensued
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regarding the Over 65 Program and consensus was that there is a
definite problem with continuing the program as it is. Phasing out
the program was considered, discontinuing it January 1990 and
grandfathering in those who moved here in 1984 and no others.
Mayor Ison pointed out that originally the program was set up to
be simply lost revenue to the water and sanitation funds, but that
with the cost moved to the general fund, it becomes a taxpayer
burden. Mayor Ison said that some of the logic used in beginning
the program was that senior citizens generally do not generate as
much garbage/trash as a household with younger, more active
residents and the cost to the City would be less than the monthly
charge for sanitation service. Also that those benefiting from the
program would be having more money in the Ocoee bank to be lent to
Ocoee citizens, thereby helping the economy of the City.
Commissioner Dabbs asked that the record show that he is amenable
to having the program shut down. Mayor Ison said that he feels
that the City has a contract with those people who are on the
program and with those who are already here expecting to qualify,
and so the program should phase out with that consideration.
Mayor Ison asked that the growth rate of the Over 65 Program be
provided. A question was raised about whether a space was
reserved next to a dead spouse for those who had already been
provided with a cemetery lot under the Over 65 Program. (Later
research showed that the deeds have already been issued for the
surviving spouse).
Returning to the budget, City Manager Shapiro requested that he be
authorized to have the attorney present at each Commission
meeting, as the meetings are now shorter. He also reported that he
had reviewed the attorney fees and determined one of the ways to
reduce the fees would be by requiring that only one copy of a
document be sent to us that we copy and distribute, as they were
charging a high rate per page. Also he had convinced them to
reduce the very high rate they were charging for faxing documents
to us.
City Manager Shapiro pointed out that after the Comprehensive Plan
is finished there may not be a need for a third planner (in the
next budget year).
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City Manager Shapiro advised that he is introducing a new policy
regarding cars by providing private car allowances of $400 per
month, with co-insurance, for those who have previously been
provided company cars. The exception to this will be detectives
who will have City-provided insurance coverage because of the fact
that they have to transport people who are not willing to be
transported.
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City Manager Shapiro noted that, on page B-22, the contingency
fund could change and that he would prefer that it be closer to
$200,000. Mayor Ison noted that the Tri-County Transit Service may
be a part of the tax equalization issue: and, if so, we should
make a point of interceding at the county level, as we definitely
need bus service and they have been unresponsive. We should either
have bus service or lower tax from the county.
City Manager Shapiro said that the Public Works Director is no
longer only in charge of Bowness Road, but rather all of public
works and needs a clerk-typist and a two-way radio. This is listed
on page B-23 of the budget. He mentioned also the possibility of
instituting the use of time clocks, as the Federal Government will
not reimburse for disaster if time clocks are not used. (Currently
the Dispatcher is on a time clock, and that will suffice for now).
The city clerk will be a separate department for purposes of
budget next fiscal year.
The maintenance department will be beefed up for next year. Mayor
Ison said that the Withers-Maguire House will be functional and
may be available for public use soon. City Manager Shapiro said
that there is a legal problem of liability if the building is not
up to code. Mayor Ison said that there may be someone approaching
us to purchase the building and we should be ready with a
response.
There was discussion regarding City Manager Shapiro's salary and
it was determined that sessions for evaluation and considering a
contract would be held in September.
Page B-29: The police department will be beefed up by one
patrolman each shift and putting the lieutenant back to sergeant
will put four men on the road. A new K-9 dog has been bought by
the handling officer as the old dog has cancer. The vehicles
purchased will be bid out first with State contract figures to
fall back on if needed.
RECESS PROM 10:22 P.M. TO 10:35 P.M.
Page B-30: Detective cars will go to the fleet and clunkers will
be disposed of. City departments will pay for their own water and
trash service now.
Page B-35,36: There were no major changes in the fire department
budget.
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Page B-37: Building department major issue was the computor
software which will track charges to developers from impact fees
through the final inspection. Also budgeted are a PC and printer,
several vehicles including a truck, new building inspector, code
enforcement officer, and the building clerk who was transferred
from the finance department.
Page B-40: Cemetery fund calls for 1/2 person to maintain. An
ordinance is forthcoming revising the cemetery policy and it will
include a statement regarding no more free lots.
Page B-43: The name of the street department has been changed to
Parks/Parkways/Trees/Drainage. The engineering expense was reduced
by $0,000 because we now have our own engineer. Mayor Ison wants
to audit the street lights in the City. Florida Power Corporation
charges for installation and the lights are on a rotation basis
and are out a lot. City Manager Shapiro said that he will look
into 1) the developer's agreements and what they are supposed to
do, and 2) what the installation charges are for lights.
Mayor Ison asked about Clark Road and the budget beginning
October 1, 1989. City Manager Shapiro advised that if we do Clark
Road and refinance Bowness Road there will be no payment
whatsoever in that budget year. There is $414,000 in the Bowness
Road budget not budgeted for anything else. The refinancing of
Bowness Road happens immediately upon bond issue. The right-of-way
acquisition for Clark Road and the engineering will both occur in
the first year. City Manager Shapiro said that he will go to the
developers and ask for letters of credit so that he can show that
he has Clark Road refinancing one and one-half times. Even if he
never does Clark Road refinancing Bowness Road will net a better
deal for the City. If Clark Road is not built, nothing will be
drawn from the fund. Mayor Ison asked if Bryan and Olive were
informed of this approach and City Manager Shapiro reported that
Mr. Olive had advised that if you are actually going to do the
refinancing the $414,000 should be applied toward the defeasment,
if not, then the $414,000 should be left for a payment, because
there is a tax benefit that way.
Page B-47: Shop-manpower reduced by one.
Page B-50: Recreation-one person was transferred to parks
department. Commissioner Johnson noted that Director Beech should
be given mileage. Consensus was that he should be given $1,500
instead of mileage and reduce the contingency fund by that much.
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Page C-2: Water- the cost of items is shared with wastewater. City
Manager Shapiro recommends raising the water deposit to cover the
increased water rates, and also to begin keeping the deposits and
pay interest if necessary. Mayor Ison suggested that we begin
trading information with other cities in this area regarding
utility customers who skip. Mayor Ison asked Finance Director
Poston if our depository will remain the same and about the
interest rate. Consensus was to research for higher return,
considering not just the interest rate but also fees waived, etc.
Mayor Ison requested that the old water pipes be put on a
replacement program. He also asked for the total number of
water/sewer customers as the figures he sees on reports and the
rooftops he counts do not jibe. A lengthy discussion regarding
water rates ensued.
Page D-4: Sanitation- sanitary land fill expense went down because
of recycling and the program of separating grass from the
household garbage.
Mayor Ison asked that the Lake County proposed land fill
placed on the August 22 agenda as the acquifer flows
direction and a proclamation is in order.
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The next meetings are scheduled for Saturday at 4:30 p.m., and
Sunday at 3:00 p.m.. Budget workshops are already advertised for
three nights next week if meetings are needed.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 11:31 p.m.
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