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City of Ocoee
Minutes of the Charter Review Commission
Meeting Held July 27, 2009
Call to Order
Chairperson Grafton
called the meeting to order at 6:34 p.m., in the Commission
Chairperson Grafton
Chambers of City Hall, located at 150 N. Lakeshore Drive. gave
Recording Clerk Moseley
the invocation andled the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
called roll and declared a quorum to be present.
Roll Call
Present:
Chairperson Grafton, Vice-Chair McKey, Members Amey and Barnes.
Also present were City Clerk Eikenberry and City Attorney Rosenthal.
Absent:
Member Howell (unexcused)
Guests:
District 1 City Commissioner Gary Hood and District 3 City
Commissioner Rusty Johnson.
Approval of Minutes of July 7, 2009.
Member BarnesVice-Chair McKey
, seconded by , moved to approve the Charter Review
Commission minutes of the joint session with City Commission held July 7, 2009. Motion
carried unanimously.
Discuss Items Sent Back by City Commission for Further Review
Number of Districts
Member Barnes
opened the discussion by explaining the options of (1) remain with the
current four districts plus a mayor elected at large, (2) add two districts plus a mayor
elected at large, or (3) add three districts with the mayor elected by commission. He
thought they should choose one option of change to put on the ballot, rather than both.
Vice-Chair McKey
inquired of the city attorney if there was any structure required for
City Attorney
the ballot questions to be ‘yes’ or ‘no’ or if they could be multiple choice.
Rosenthal
said they had to be ‘yes’ or ‘no’ questions; however, there is no limit to the
number of questions allowed as long as they are drafted in a manner that would not create
contradictory results. He gave an example of one question asking to increase the
commission to seven members, followed by another question regarding the role of the
mayor. He said that more combinations would make drafting the questions more
complicated, but they are not limited.
Vice-Chair McKey
thought that more commissioners were in favor of keeping the
mayor elected city-wide. He stated that he was in favor of changing to six districts with
the mayor elected city-wide.
Commissioner Rusty Johnson
said that he did not remember how many commissioners
were in favor of the mayor being elected city-wide, but he thinks they can put both
options on the ballot because it all comes down to what the citizens decide. Discussion
ensued.
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City Attorney Rosenthal
explained that a charter amendment is a question of whether
you are ‘for’ or ‘against’. If it is ‘for’, that means that the new language passes. If it is
‘against’, then the language remains like it is, as opposed to going to some other
alternative. He said that the question regarding the mayor would be separate from the size
of the commission; it would be a ballot text which changed the position of the mayor as
one that is elected by the city commission rather than the electors. He began talking
through the ways of wording the text on the ballot and the amendments that would result
in the charter. He said it would have to be drafted so that the questions are not
Member Barnes
contradictory. said he does not want it to be so complicated that it
would confuse the voters. He thought it would be better to only have one issue on the
Vice-Chair
election, and put the other issue on the following election in the future.
McKey
said he would rather present both possibilities, and word it in the simplest form.
Discussion ensued regarding possible wording to put both issues on the ballot.
Member Barnes
suggested two questions:
(1) Do you want to add 2 districts, yes or no?
(2) Do you want the mayor elected by the commission (if so there will be 1 additional
district) yes or no?
City Attorney Rosenthal
discussed which sections of the charter would require an
amendment due to the above questions passing.
Member Amey
suggested they only ask the question as to whether the mayor should be
elected by commissioners because they had already decided previously as a board that
Commissioner Johnson
they would not add more districts until the population grew.
said he and Commissioner Hood were not present to sway the board’s decision one way
or another. He said every ballot they look at is complicated so they cannot put things off
because of that. He said they should put it out there, and give the people the choice.
City Attorney Rosenthal
suggested they decide tonight what direction they want to go
and then he would come back to the next meeting with what the questions are and how
they change the text of the charter. If there were any obstacles, then he would identify
those before he comes back, and do his best to accomplish whatever recommendation
they want to make to City Commission.
Vice-Chair McKey
believes they are looking at growth, and need to increase the number
of districts. He said the question is whether the mayor should be elected by commission
City Attorney Rosenthal
or remain elected city-wide. asked them what their multiple
choices would be, if they could make that type of question, and he would try to convert
Member Barnes
those into ‘yes’ or ‘no’ questions. said they have three options to
choose from, being the following:
(1)Everything stays the same, or
(2)Add 2 districts with the mayor still elected city-wide, or
(3)Add 3 districts with the mayor elected by commission each year.
City Attorney Rosenthal
, clarified option 2 as being 6+1 (six districts plus one mayor
elected city-wide), and option 3 as being 7+0 (seven districts with mayor elected by
commission). He asked if they had option 3, how long the term of the mayor would be.
Consensus of the board was for the mayor’s term to be one year, same as the mayor pro
tem currently.
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City Attorney Rosenthal
asked about the implementation date for the change to 4- year
terms. He said after the 2010 election, the next election would be in 2012 which would
be after the next census is done and the redistricting takes place. He said they previously
suggested matching up with the presidential primaries, but nobody can predict what
legislation will do in 2012; they could move the dates, but usually give municipalities the
Vice-Chair McKey
option to move their municipal election dates to match. asked when
City Clerk Eikenberry
the best opportunity would be to have that election. said March
2010 would be the next opportunity.
City Attorney Rosenthal
stated that if 4-year terms pass in March, then they would have
to tie that into the charter. He said they have elections in 2010 and 2012, and asked how
they would stagger the terms if it passes to have 7 members of commission. Discussion
ensued regarding the various scenarios and how the terms would be staggered for each.
City Attorney Rosenthal
stated that commissioners will finish their term, and then at the
next election they would switch to the revised terms, etc.
It was decided that if they stay with 3-year terms, that one would be elected in 2012 with
a term to expire in 2015. The other would have to be for a 2-year term to expire in 2014.
City Attorney Rosenthal
said you can shorten but not lengthen. He said if they switch
to 4-year terms, then one would be elected for a 2-year term and one for a 3-year
City Clerk Eikenberry
expiration. said she would go through the charter to see if any
other issues would arise out of those changes.
City Attorney Rosenthal
summarized the options discussed:
Scenario 1
– no change.
Scenario 2
- adding 2 single member districts, for a total of 6+1, no change in
mayoral election.
Scenario 3
– adding 2 single member districts, changing mayor to single member
district (which would basically be adding 3 single member districts),
mayor be elected by city commission for a 1-year term as
comparable to current mayor pro tem.
Additional seats
- those under a 3-year term, one new position would go to two
years and one would go to three years. Under a 4-year term, one new slot would
be for two years and one slot would be four years.
Residency Requirements for Department Directors, Chiefs, and City Manager(s)
Member Barnes
mentioned one issue that current employees are grandfathered in, so
Member Amey
they are not forced to make any moves. said they need to specify that it
is for department directors, chiefs, and city managers. Members suggested allowing the
Member Barnes
employees 90 days to move into Ocoee. inquired if the city would be
Chair Grafton
assisting an employee with relocating. said that was not something that
should be put into the charter because that was an administrative issue.
City Clerk Eikenberry
suggested that only allowing 90 days for relocating could be
Commissioner Johnson
tough. said they could allow a 30 day extension if the city
Chair Grafton
commission felt it was needed. was concerned that the probationary
period for a new employee is currently one year, so forcing someone to move before their
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job is secure seems harsh. Commissioner Johnson replied that they would not be
forcing anybody to do anything; it is their choice whether they want the job or they don't.
Member Barnes said he agrees that people do not have to agree to take the job with the
conditions, but he thinks they could lose out on potentially good employees. Vice-Chair
McKey believed this was something that could be in the employee handbook and not the
charter. Chair Grafton stated that currently the only positions in the charter are the city
manager and the city clerk, and they should be careful not to add stuff that is not
necessary in the charter. Member Barnes said they should allow the city commission
the authority to grant extensions, at their discretion, of the 90-day base period for those
employees to meet residential requirements. City Attorney Rosenthal said the
residential requirements would affect the wording of Article V, Section C-25(C); he does
not want to change the numbering of the charter.
City Attorney Rosenthal asked if the board desired for him to draft the changes and
bring the language back to the board at another meeting to adopt as a report. The
members agreed. He said he would send out the draft ahead of time for review, as it is
possible they could come up with another question during the drafting stage.
The next meeting was scheduled for Wednesday, August 26, 2009, at 6:30 p.m. in the
Commission Chambers.
Adiournment
The meeting adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
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