HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 10-12-10 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
ACTING AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
MEETING HELD TUESDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Campbell called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Following a
moment of silent meditation and the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, a quorum
was declared present.
PRESENT: Chairman Campbell, Vice Chair Golden, Members De La Portilla,
Dillard, McKey, Morris, Sills, and West. Also present were Assistant
City Attorney Watson, Assistant City Manager Shadrix, Senior
Planner Howell, and Deputy City Clerk Sibbitt.
ABSENT: Member Conkling was absent unexcused.
CONSENT AGENDA
Minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting held on Tuesday,
September 14, 2010.
Member McKev, seconded by Member Sills, moved to accept the Minutes of the
September 14, 2010, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Motion carried
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS - LETTER OF NOTIFICATION TO SURROUNDING OWNERS -
EXPANSION OF BOUNDARIES
Assistant City Manager Shadrix stated their discussion on this issue was
followed by a very healthy discussion by the City Commission at the October 5th
City Commission Meeting. He further stated he would like to propose to the board
tonight is that staff come back and present a workshop. They were directed by
City Commission to look at amending the code to address this very issue that was
brought by this body. Chairman Campbell inquired if the amendment would
include all the other areas where the 300 ft. notification is mentioned. Assistant
City Manager Shadrix stated they would do a comprehensive review and
propose a series of recommendations that would address that issue as well as
some others. Vice Chair Golden thanked Mr. Shadrix for bringing this up so
quickly and stated he just wanted to increase the notification radius up to a 1,000
ft. for special exceptions. Assistant City Manager Shadrix stated the City
Commission did have discussion on the issue of a use going into an existing
vacant retail center thus creating an issue for attracting other retail uses that might
wish to sell alcohol. There are ways they can amend the code to limit that from
occurring and still allow the owners of the retail centers to lease to tenants. He
further stated what they want to do in context with all the plans they have for the
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CRA is create an environment where there is a hometown feel. Assistant City
Manager Shadrix stated that now is the time to focus on the code so they will be
bringing a lot of code items before the board within the next few months.
Chairman Campbell inquired if they anticipate a workshop in the next 90 days.
Assistant City Manager Shadrix stated they are in the beginning process of
doing research so they would like to have a workshop within the next 60-90 days.
NEW BUSINESS
VILLAGES OF WESMERE — REZONING TO PUD /LAND USE PLAN
Senior Planner Howell gave a brief overview of the proposed rezoning of the
property known as the Villages of Wesmere. The Villages of Wesmere
townhome development was approved by the City Commission in 2006. The
development was approved for 369 townhome units. The applicant is requesting
to rezone the northern portion to allow the construction of 178 single - family detach
units in place of a portion of the approved townhome units.
The Land Use Plan that was submitted proposes 40 -foot wide by 80 -foot deep
(3,200 square foot) lots in a Traditional Neighborhood Design (TND). During the
review process, staff suggested the applicant include alleyways as a way to
enhance the 40 -foot wide Tots which would ultimately give it more of a TND feel.
The alleyways will be contained in tracks that will be owned and maintained by the
homeowners association.
The setbacks for the front loaded and alley loaded lots will differ. For the front
loaded units; a 20 -foot setback, 5 -foot side setback, and 10 -foot rear setback will
be provided. For the alley loaded units; a 10 -foot front setback, 5 -foot side
setback, and a 20 -foot rear setback will be provided. The rear setback will be
used as the entry and the units will be accessed from the alley.
Senior Planner Howell further explained the traffic statement and acceptable
uses in a PUD District. He also mentioned that on September 2nd the applicant
hosted a Community Meeting which several of the surrounding HOA's as well as
residents of the existing townhomes were invited to attend.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Staff respectfully recommends the approval of the proposed rezoning of 40.60
acres of the Villages of Wesmere from R- 3(Multiple- Family Dwelling) to PUD
(Planned Unit Development), subject to the execution of a Development
Agreement, and the resolution of the outstanding comments from the Legal
Department prior to the action being presented to the City Commission for final
approval.
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DISCUSSION
Member McKey inquired if it is possible that some of the existing multi - family
units be converted to a convenience store, cleaner, or some sort of mail drop off
facility. Senior Planner Howell stated that portion is zoned R -3 which has to be
residential unless someone came in and petitioned to rezone it to allow
commercial use; however, that would also require a future land use change.
Member McKey stated if they allowed commercial then it would be a true TND.
Vice Chair Golden stated he noticed some outstanding legal questions from the
DRC and he was wondering if that had to do with the Development Agreement.
Assistant City Attorney Watson stated he is correct the outstanding comments
do have to do with the Development Agreement and additional conditions of
approval that will be incorporated into the plans and will not have subsequent
changes of what they have seen already. Vice Chair Golden inquired as to what
additional conditions the applicant gets with the PUD other than what they have
seen in their packets. Assistant City Attorney Watson stated they are minor
modifications and gave some examples of conditions they would be seeing. Vice
Chair Golden stated the alleyways will be narrow so what would be the conditions
for parking on the streets. Senior Planner Howell stated this could be a
requirement that they add on to the approval stating that no parking is allowed in
the alleys. He further explained the alleys are 12 -feet wide and only allow one -
way traffic.
The Public Hearing was opened.
Jim Hall, VHB Engineering, stated they concur with all of staffs conditions and
they have worked really well with them. He further stated as to the TND questions
that were addressed to the planner, they are not asking for any commercial but
they are advancing the construction of the community center, pool, and recreation
area to the front end of the development which will act as a civic space. He
further stated to answer the question regarding parking in the alleys. The alley
setback is 20 -feet which allows a driveway in front of the garage so that they get
two parking spaces off the alleyway. He briefly explained that all the existing
homes and the proposed lots on the south end of the property will stay R -3 and
the conditions of approval are exactly the same as when it came to the board
before.
Vice Chair Golden inquired as to how big the homes would range as far as
square footage. Kevin Kramer, K. Hovnanian Cambridge Homes, LLC, stated
the single - family homes will be 1700 -2400 square feet. He further stated the
townhomes, of which they are not requesting any changes to, range from 1500-
1900 square feet. Vice Chair Golden stated in the elevations it looks like a
Mediterranean theme and he inquired if it matched the architectural theme of the
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other townhomes that exist. Mr. Kramer stated the current R -3 approved
townhome development had a requirement for tile roof so the only elevations they
will be offering is Mediterranean. He further explained some of the other elements
they would be including that would keep the development consistent with what is
already there. Mr. Kramer stated this is one overall community that needs to
blend together well and compliment each other. Vice Chair Golden stated since
they are going in the direction of single - family homes he is guessing there is a
better market for it. Mr. Kramer stated that is exactly the case because they feel
that even in the very optimistic times we were in 5 -7 years ago 369 townhomes
was a lot. They feel this is a great location and a very strong market for single -
family homes which is why they are converting the north half to 178 single - family
homes. Member McKey inquired about condition #70 and referred the applicant
to look at the resources guide that is available from MetroPlan regarding bike
racks and benches. He also suggested the planner look into the MetroPlan
recommendations and make sure it is added to the code. Member McKey further
commented on the declaration which is addressed under the conditions and
stated he would like to see that expanded to requiring detail limitations on the size
and construction guidelines and placement of accessory structures and fences in
rear yards. Member De La Portilla inquired about the type of price point the
homes would be sold at. Mr. Kramer stated they do not know at this time but it
would be priced at market value. He further stated the single - family homes will be
higher priced just by nature of being a single - family home. Member De La
Portilla inquired if they had any idea what the market is today regarding a 1700
square foot home in that area. Mr. Kramer stated he does not know but he is
aware that pricing is not very good right now for townhomes in the market. He
further stated to allow some comfort these homes will have to be sold at a price
for 369 townhomes which is 60 less homes then they will be marketing and they
have to make up the dollar amount with nice homes that sell. Member De La
Portilla inquired if the clubhouse will have a swimming pool. Mr. Kramer stated it
will have a large pool, clubhouse, and a playground area. Member De La Portilla
further inquired the square footage of the clubhouse. Mr. Kramer stated he can
not recall but the pool is 24ftx58ft water area with a deck. Further discussion
ensued regarding the pool's location and when the amenities would be done.
Member Morris inquired if there will be two separate HOA's. Mr. Kramer stated
there will be one HOA but two types of members (townhome members and single -
family members). He further explained the difference in the two. Vice Chair
Golden inquired why the trips increased. Mr. Jim Hall stated he was shocked too
but according to the Professional Engineering Institute, the single - family residence
generates 65 -70% more trips than a townhome. He further added it only went up
less then 10% of what they originally had approved but they are working with the
city on some mitigation to take care of that slight increase. Mr. Hall briefly
explained the reasons for the increase in trips.
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Andrea Constantinou, 2131 Velvet Leaf Drive, stated one of the major issues the
community as a whole agrees on is the size of the townhomes. Currently about
95% of the existing townhomes are 1900 -2300 square feet so building smaller
townhomes will cause a decrease in the value of their homes. She further
expressed her concerns with the width of the building and proposed that a
minimum square footage of 1800 square feet be allowed. Chairman Campbell
inquired if the request being proposed by Ms. Constantinou would require a
change to the existing plans for that area. Assistant City Attorney Watson
stated that is correct; the concerns of the residents tonight are referring to the
townhomes that are being built and will remain zoned R -3. She further stated that
the southern portion of the project has already been approved so any changes to
minimum square footage would have to be addressed by revisions to the
approved subdivision plans for those units.
Angel Graulau, 2154 Velvet Leaf Drive, stated he is in the US Army and will be
deployed to Afghanistan but every time he leaves his house his primary concern is
his family. He moved into a gated community so they would have the amenities
within and it is his understanding that they would be taking away the basketball
courts and tennis courts. He further gave his objection regarding the amenities
that would not be built because it would take away from the youth in the long term.
Mr. Graulau also agreed with Ms. Constantinou in the square footage of the
homes and how the property value of their home would go down if the builders
downsized the units.
Sarah Klunk, 2134 Bent Grass Avenue, stated another concern the residents
have regarding the townhomes is that the interior features in the proposed
townhomes and single - family homes remain similar to what they have now
because they have a lot of upgrades. She stated they do not want it to be made
cheap. Ms. Klunk also commented that they would like to see the black iron
gates to continue with the newer townhomes because it was not shown on their
proposed plans.
Scott Roberson, 2122 Bent Grass Avenue, inquired about the single - family
resident parking area and further commented on his disagreement with having
two separate HOA's. His concerns with the HOA issue included fees,
maintenance requirements, and keeping a cohesive color scheme. Mr. Roberson
also agreed with the square footage concerns mentioned before and stated he
would like to see the builders take their issues into consideration. Chairman
Campbell informed Mr. Roberson, as well as the other residents, that what is
before them tonight is determining whether or not the PUD is to be approved.
Many of their concerns tonight are not issues they can address or take action on.
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Assistant City Manager Shadrix addressed the board and stated he wanted to
clarify a couple of things. He feels it is very important to have members of the
community come before them to air their concerns. The issue before the board
tonight is a zoning issue and the townhomes parcels are not being rezoned.
There were many issues brought up that were really good issues but he wanted to
make the distinction that this is for zoning tonight and the builders still have a
subdivision plan stage which will require intricate details.
Mr. Jim Hall spoke and addressed the questions of the residents regarding the
square footage and how they will try to increase in value of the homes by
completing the gate, club house, and recreational amenities. Mr. Kramer
addressed the question on parking and stated the single - family homes will have
plenty of room for a guest to park up against the curb without blocking a driveway
which is why there were no cut -outs such as the townhomes have. He further
stated the HOA will be one HOA but the difference will be the reserves set aside
to maintain the exterior of a townhome building. They have no intentions of
raising the fees and they do want the involvement of the current residents to
suggest changes to them. Mr. Kramer further explained their intentions with the
project.
Chairman Campbell stated he can assume that they will continue to work with
the residents separate from the zoning issue before the board tonight. Mr.
Kramer stated that he will not be able to give the residents everything that they
are requesting but they do have to sell at a higher value because they have to
make up for 60 less units. Member Sills inquired how wide the street will be in
the front of the single - family homes. Mr. Kramer stated it will be the standard
street requirement. Senior Planner Howell added that the street does meet the
code.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Member Mckey stated he likes the TND concept and feels it will be a very
marketable product. He further encourages all the owners to bring their concerns
to either the Building Department or their Commissioner.
Member McKey, seconded by Member Dillard, moved to recommend approval
of the proposed rezoning of 40.60 acres of the Villages of Wesmere from R -3
(Multiple - Family Dwelling) to PUD (Planned Unit Development) subject to the
execution of a Development Agreement, and the resolution of the outstanding
comments from the Legal Department prior to the action being presented to the
City Commission for final approval. Motion carried unanimously.
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MISCELLANEOUS
Assistant City Manager Shadrix thanked the board for their assistance in getting
a lot of their big items out of the way. They will have a lot of code changes coming
forward which he further explained. He further stated they will be doing some
different things with peer review with some of their customer base. They are
trying to go with an industry standard that helps us meet our goals.
Member Morris inquired if they are still meeting at the end of the month.
Assistant City Manager Shadrix stated they are planning to go ahead with the
meeting at the end of this month.
Member McKey addressed Mr. Shadrix on a JPA question and how he thought
that Orange County would be working closely with us when new construction
would be built near our borders. A brief discussion ensued on a gas station being
built next to Lowe's.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:13 p.m.
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