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AUGUST 11, 1947
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Meeting called to order at 7 :30 pm. by Chairman Swickerath.
PRESENT: Chairman Swickerath, Vice - Chairman Smith, Board
Members Sanders, Bello, Linebarier, Switzer, Bond,
(Alternate Weeks was present but not needed), Planning
Director Wagner, Assistant Planner Rivera and City Clerk
Catron.
ABSENT: None
APPROVAL
The following corrections were made to the minutes of the
June 9, 1987 Meeting. On page 3 second line from the bottom,
corrected to read "Mr. Smith" instead of Mr. Sanders and on
Page 5, line 10 delete the sentence that begins with "Mrs.
Bello" and ends with "on the site" and insert "Mrs. Bello
then read a letter written by Mrs. Bond in which she stated
her overall concerns and her opinion of things that needed to
be considered in the Lake Olympia Development." Marvin
Sanders moved to approve the minutes of the June 9, 1987
Meeting as amended, Harold Switzer seconded and motion
carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
REVIEW /RECOMMENDATION — OLYMPIC COVE P.U.D.
PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN
Since this item would take up a considerable amount of time,
and the representatives of Olympic Cove P.U.D. did not mind,
the agenda was amended to take up Item IV. A. under New
Business.
NEW BUSINESS
REVIEW / RECOMMENDATION — MAXIM BUILDING CORPORATION ANNEXATION
Planning Director Wagner presented an overview of the
proposed annexation. He explained that Maxim Building
Corporation, a subsidiary of Cardinal Industries, had
petitioned for annexation of their property located at the
northeast corner of Marshall Farms Road and State Road 50 and
they planned to build a model home center on the site. The
property would do away with part of an existing enclave. Mr.
Wagner stated that they had been in contact with them and
they were basically in agreement with all the improvements on
site and next year would comply with the Plan Amendment and
Rezoning requirements. For now they would develop under the
existing County zoning.
Michael Slater, a representative of Cardinal Industries, gave
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a few general statements and explained their plane for the
property. He stated they would be able to save all of the
existing trees and it would be heavily landscaped. He read a
letter to the board from Owen Shepherd, Mayor of Casaelberry,
which praised their model center located in his city.
Chairman Swickerath explained that they could only act on the
annexation request. In response to Mr. Smith's question
about how long the structures would remain models, Mr. Slater
said they would always be utilized as models. Mr. Linebarier
asked how many models would be on the site and Mr. Slater
said there would be a maximum of 8. Mrs. Bond complimented
Cardinal Industries for their model centers and said they did
a good fob and was glad to see something pleasing to the eye
on the site and hoped it would encourage others to do the
same. Pat Bond moved to recommend approval of the annexation
request to the City Commission, John Linebarier seconded and
the motion carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
REVIEW /RECOMMENDATION - OLYMPIC COVE P.U.D.
PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN
%ow As requested by the board at the last meeting, the developer
of this project submitted a conceptual layout of the tract
for their review. Planning Director Wagner explained that
staff felt the mayor issues which needed to be addressed were
density, open space, atormwater management, traffic and
utilities. Due to the complexity of the project and the time
frame requirements for site plan review, he requested that
the board focus on these large scale issues.
John Percy, of Glatting, Lopez, Kercher, Anglin, Inc., 33
E. Pine St., Orlando, representing the property owner, gave a
brief description of the plans for the property. Single
family homes are planned for the southern part of the parcel
and multifamily for the northern part along with the
realignment of Montgomery Road. Approximately 10% of the
land area would be used for open apace and retention areas,
there would be 33 multifamily buildings at approximately 12
units per acre, and 52 single family units.
Chairman Swickerath suggested taking the 5 mayor issues in
order but Mr. Wagner stated that they might want to take them
in reverse order and start with the utilities. The board
agreed to begin the diacuaaion as auggeated by Mr. Wagner.
UTILITIES
lrr Mr. Wagner explained that the city was negotiating for
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acquisition of the sewer facility and Mr. Percy stated they
would get a letter of commitment before they were issued a
building permit. Mr. Wagner explained that the existing
facility did not have the capacity and thought Mr. Percy had
indicated that they had some commitments. Mr. Swickerath
questioned the availability of sewer and asked how the
project was phased and Mr. Percy said they would build the
single family first. In answer to Mr. Wagner's question on
whether they had any intention to use septic tanks, Mr. Percy
said they did not. A 12" Water Main would be needed and
would be extended south and Mr. Percy said they had no
problem with extending the main through their site. Mr.
Wagner asked if they would be expecting any coat sharing.
Mr. Swickerath stated they would not approve anything that
did not have adequate facilities and did not think the board
would recommend cost sharing. Mr. Wagner stated that along
with this the developer may have to participate in the
expansion.
TRAFFIC
Mr. Linebarier questioned the access points from the project
to Silver Star Road and asked if the access point to Silver
Star in the middle of the multifamily was necessary. Mr.
Swickerath reminded the board that at the last meeting,
'1r„ Weacar, the neighbor to the east, would access Silver Star,
as well as U. S. Homes to the east. He objected to two curb
cuts on Silver Star. Mr. Wagner explained that Ocoee Hills
Road was not depicted. There was some discussion about an
eastern access through the adjoining Wescar property but Mr.
Percy said they did not want to go through the commercial
property. Mr. Wagner explained that the commercial part of
the adjoining property had been moved back 200 feet and heavy
landscaping and buffering would be provided. Access was to
be provided to the outparcels and to homes on the west
boundary. There was acme discussion about some of the
property owners on the west boundary being interested in
being annexed into the city. Dual Access had been
accomodated within the project from Silver Star and
Montgomery Road. Intersection improvements were planned for
turn lanes and probably deceleration lanes into the project
and there would be some cost sharing with adjoining property
owners. The language necessary for the improvements would be
incorporated in the developers agreement and would have to
follow State Green Book standards. Screening would be
provided typically along arterial and collector streets.
Staff had recommended that a well be used for screening along
lots 1, 21, and 29, to went of Montgomery and on Silver Star.
On east Silver Star a lower type of screening would be
requested. Mr. Percy stated they had already agreed to
buffers along Silver Star and Montgomery. Berms and
landscaping would also be used along part of Silver Star and
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along the section of Montgomery Road that borders the single
family homes. The board members were not in favor of walls
but would rather have well maintained and landscaped berms
in lieu of walla .
RECESS: 8:48 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER: 9 :06 p.m.
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
Mr. Wagner gave a brief overview and issues of concern -
water quality, drainage away from the lake and the
development had to retain the 100 year atormwater on site. A
red flag would go up if any retention ponds were depicted in
the 100 year flood plain, and Mr. Wagner explained that this
pion pushed to the lake the maximum amount allowed and a
statement from this board would be helpful. The board
queationed retention areas B & D and the canal area. Mr.
Percy said they did not want to fence the retention areas and
would meet all the requirements. Mrs. Bond eked if they had
spoken with Orange County since this was a wetlands area and
Lake Olympia was a "captured lake ". The conservation areas
shown on the West State Road 50 study and this plan were not
the same. Mr. Percy stated that he did not know how much of
the area was wetlands as it had been mostly grove area for
* lw years. Mrs. Bond stated that the drainage for the wetlands
would have to be handled. Mr. Wagner explained that DER and
the St. Johns Water Management District would have to set
jurisdictional lines. Mr. Swickerath said that a lot of
work goes into putting the State Road 50 study together but
some of the material was questionable and that soil samples
would have to be done. Mrs. Bond reiterated her concerns and
did not want the same thing to happen as happened to Lakes
Peach and Moxie. Mr. Wagner explained that, in theory, the
project would not contribute any more water than the property
did now and it might be leas. Mr. Swickerath expressed his
concern with treatment to the edge of the lake and encouraged
the developer to use natural vegetation instead of building
beaches. Mr. Switzer asked what would be done if the state
agencies would not let the build Montgomery Road across the
canal. Mr. Wagner explained that staff worked with the
developerto get the road through the site as it was needed
for a collector road and if one of the agencies said no than
we would have to accept their denial. Mr. Linebarier asked
if this project would come back to them and Mr. Wagner stated
he planned to take it to the City Commission. Mr. Swickerath
and Mr. Linebarier felt they did not have all of the
information they needed to make a recommendation. Mr. Wagner
said that staff was taking down the Commission's input in
order to incorporate their suggestions into the developers
revised plans and were not at the level in the process to
bring back another plan. The thing they need to know is what
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level of density would be acceptable on the site. Mr.
Swickerath stated that he was "laboring under the assumption"
that their advice was sought by the Commission and token
seriously. He appreciated input at this early stage of
development but would like to see how the issues were
resolved. He felt that based on what they told the developer
the lest time, they did not want to see this plan go to the
City Commission and would like one more layer of approval.
Most of the board members were in agreement with Mr.
Swickerath and Mr. Wagner said they could discuss this under
comments.
OPEN SPACE
Mr. Wagner explained that the buffers were different in this
case as there were only 2 places they might consider and that
was on the east and west boundaries. The buffer on the east
would be provided by another developer and on the west they
might require buffers to the single family home section along
the lake. Mr. Smith asked if buffers would be provided for
the parking area and Mr. Wagner stated that there would be 20
feet of landscaping for those areas. The mayor issue for
the open apace is the question of public versus private. Mr.
Wagner suggested that the active recreation areas be private
and the open passive areas (natural wetlands) be retained by
*olIlrr the city. Mr. Linebarier and Mr. Swickerath felt the lake
should not be privatized, while Mr. Smith, Mr. Switzer and
Mrs. Bond did not agree. They felt that the lake should
remain private since there was public access on Starke Lake
and felt that was sufficient. When questioned by the board
on the amount of area for recreation /open apace, Mr. Wagner
explained that the Commission decided on the amount of land
that would be required and in some cases might accept cash in
lieu of land or a combination of both.
DENSITY
Mr. Wagner presented an overview of concerns that he wanted
from the board. Staff had no problem with the single family
area to the south but questioned if the multifamily, 12
unite /acres, would be an acceptable level of development to
them. (NOTE: Pat Bond left at 10:15 p.m.) Mr. Smith said
that the 16 units per building bothered him, but Mr.
Swickerath preferred more. Mr. Wagner stated that the only
issue was the character of the land use, i.e., did they want
apartments, garden apartments, villas, townhomea, etc.. Mr.
Swickerath said they should talk about the intensity of the
land use and said he did not have problem with the
recommended density of 12 units /acre and encouraged the 3
story concept in response to Mr. Percy's question if they had
a problem with going to 3 story, and would like more open
apace or do some kind of mix. There was some discussion on
the square footage of the units and Mr. Wagner stated that
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the square footage was set but it might be appropriate for
them to set a standard on the limit of the development. Most
of the board members felt more information was needed.
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD
The Planning and Zoning Board basically agreed upon the
following:
Density - 12 units /acre recommended since plan was
conceptual but would question the actual size of unite and
stories.
Open Space - No clear concerns, but require the normal
5% recreation areas.
Stormwater Management - Want to ensure that the lake
remains clean and that water is retained on site.
Traffic - One curb cut on Silver Star, access to
outpercels through Weacar to the east, access to the property
owners on the west boundary, the intersection improvements to
be done and sufficient screening as discussed.
Utilities - To ensure that the property had adequate
` utilities.
Mr. Swickerath asked for a recommended approval subject to
the items mentioned and with the stipulation that they get to
see the next phase of development. Marvin Sanders moved to
approve the proposed development as they had diacusaed, Pat
Bello seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
REVIEW PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE P.U.D. ORDINANCE
Due to the lateness of the hour, Mr. Swickerath recommended
this item be tabled until the next meeting. Mr. Wagner asked
that they let him explain what he had in mind. He had
provided them with a copy of Orange County's P.U.D. Ordinance
which Ocoee was using as a model for the basic concept but
the final result would be significantly different. He asked
them to review the proposed ordinance and advise him of any
changes or additions that they would like to see incorporated
in the final version. Mr. Swickerath asked the board to let
Ruaa know if they had any changes /additions. Mr. Smith moved
to table this item until the next meeting, Mr. Sanders
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
COMMENTS
In reference to the comments made previously regarding the
duties of the board, Mr. Linebarier and Mr. Swickerath both
asked that this item be placed on the next agenda for
discussion by the board. They both felt they needed to see
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more of the plan before they could make a recommendation and
should specifically address how much input should be involved
and make a recommendation to the City Commission. Mr. Wagner
said that he respected the board, and maybe some clear
direction from the City Commission would be helpful on how
much level of involvement they wanted from the Planning and
Zoning Board. The other board members agreed with Mr.
Swickerath and Mr. Linebarier.
Bob Ferdinand asked when the P.U.D. Ordinance would be ready
as they had been waiting for it to become effective before
they proceed with their plans for development.
Mr. Sanders moved to adjourn, Mr. Switzer seconded and the
motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11 :04 p.m..
Chairman Swickerath
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City Clerk Catron
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