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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 06-10-1986 HUTU QE ELL►MMILQ MMQ MIN BQARP MUM MELD JLME 1QA I. Q!!LL TQ QRQMR Chairman Swickerath declared a quorum to be present and called the meeting to order at 7 :30 p.m. PRESENT: Chairman Jim Swickerath, Vice Chairman Edgar Brooklyn, Members John Linebarier, Burton Smith, Marvin Sanders, Elizabeth Cook, Alternate Pat Bond, City Planner Russ Wagner, Building Official Sam Gerace and Deputy Clerk Susan Amesbury. ABSENT: Member Ron Colella II. 11 EMY6 Mr. Linebarier moved to approve the minutes of the May 13, 1986 Planning and Zoning Board as printed and distributed, seconded by Mr. Brooklyn and approved unanimously. III. NEW MUM A. FLORIDA AIR CONDITIONERS, INC. - Annexation City Planner Wagner briefed the Board on this Annexation request and stated that staff recommends annexation. After a brief discussion, Vice Chairman Brooklyn made a motion to approve annexation, seconded by Mr. Sanders and approved ,,. unanimously. B. PRAIRIE LAKES PUD - Discussion of Land Uses and Staff Comments Mr. Linebarier questioned City Planner Wagner about the Development Committee Review Reports dated May 08, 1986 and May 01, 1986. City Planner Wagner stated that the Board needed to address the one dated May 08, 1986 and that there were only minor word changes in the new document. Mr. Linebarier asked City Planner Wagner if he had reviewed this report with the developer. City Planner Wagner stated that City Staff has meet 3 or 4 times with the developers leading up to this and another update was expected in a week or so in reference to traffic. He also stated that the developer was not expecting any kind of approval from the Board at tonight's meeting, they dust wanted input. As a matter of record, there was no one present from Prairie Lake. At this time, Chairman Swickerath asked the Board to set aside this item and come back later as there were people waiting for the next agenda item. C. MINORVILLE CENTER - Preliminary Subdivision Plan Approval City Planner Wagner stated that the Board had before them 1 P & 2, 6/10/86 PAGE 2 Preliminary Plans for the Minorville Commercial Center with staff comments. He also stated that Mr. Bill Colburn and his Engineer have had 3 meetings with City staff and that most of the comments on the report have been taken into consideration in the plans. City Planner Wagner stated that there were 2 different property ownerships involved on the west side of Bluford. He also stated that most of the comments addressed the road right -of -way and access to the development. City Planner Wagner stated that the one difference between the City staff and the developer was access to Lot 11. A left turn is indicated on the plans to the southern -most access point, and City staff feels northern -most point would be better. Chairman Swickerath asked if the developer had any problems with any of the Staff comments. City Planner Wagner replied that the only questions at this point were the water distribution system and technical problems. He also stated that Item 11 of staff comments which reads: "A single master stormwater retention /detention pond shall be provided for runoff from Lots 12 & 13, and the same shall be provided for runoff from Lots 14 through 17." was not fully rectified at this time. Mr. Bob Cantu, Engineer for Minorville Center, stated that he could not concur with Item 11 since he could not address Lots 14 -17 which are owned by Mr. Stucki who is not present. Mr. Cantu stated that he had the same problem with Item 4C which also pertained to Lots 14 -17, he feels these items are Mr. Stucki's responsibility. Chairman Swickerath stated that there are 17 lots in the subdivision and that the Board should not be concerned with how the ownership is divided, only with the fact that it is one subdivision. City Planner Wagner stated that Mr. Stucki and Mr. Colburn have a problem with the land. He stated that Mr. Stucki owns the parcel on the west side of Bluford, this being the abandoned Railroad right -of -way, and that Mr. Colburn owns the remaining land. He felt that Mr. Colburn was representing Mr. Stucki without his full knowledge or support and suggested the portions owned by Mr. Stucki and the portions owned by Mr. Colburn be addressed separately by the Board. Mr. Linebarier asked City Planner Wagner if this was one subdivision and City Wagner replied that it was presented as one. Mr. Colburn stated that he was in a dilemma as he cannot do anything without Mr. Stucki's and the Board's approval. He also stated that he would like his portion of the subdivision to be considered separately since he has agreed to all of the City's requests. Mr. Colburn further stated that the one parcel to be subdivided into Lots 14 -17 belonged to Mr. Stucki. Chairman Swickerath asked if Mr. Stucki agreed to be part of the subdivision as presented to the Board and Mr. Colburn answered yea, up to a point. 2 P & 2, 6/10/86 PAGE 3 Chairman Swickerath stated that the Board needs to watch out for the general welfare of the Community. Mr. Linebarier asked City Planner Wagner what the object was in including that parcel in this plan. City Planner Wagner answered that it was required by Ordinance. He further stated that if it was left out, the City would technically be violating their own Ordinance and that he would be very reluctant to `split out these parcels. He asked the Board to consider conditional approval with the qualification that Mr. Stucki agrees to go along with the City. Mr. Linebarier stated that he would recommend to delay action until a letter of agreement can be obtained from Mr. Stucki. Chairman Swickerath stated that the City did not need aasurance, that the co- developers need to get together and address the problems. Mr. Linebarier stated that he had no indication that Mr. Stucki wants to participate. Chairman Swickerath stated that if the Board treats the whole thing as one development they can limit access in reference to the curb cuts on Bluford Ave.; however, if the project is split up, this opportunity is lost. City Planner Wagner stated that the greatest control was through the subdivision process, and that this was a clean subdivision except for the issue of Mr. Stucki. Chairman Swickerath asked City Planner Wagner if the Board has the authority to request one curb cut and City Planner Wagner answered yes. Mr. Smith moved to approve the Preliminary `, Plan with all Staff requirements subjugating the developers to all property stipulations. Seconded by Mr. Sanders, which opened the floor for discussion. Chairman Swickerath stated that this motion says that this Board approves of this Commercial subdivision contingent upon the whole thing being developed consistent with the drawings and the list of elements outlined here. Vote was 6 to 1 in favor with Members Swickerath, Brooklyn, Smith, Sanders, Cook and Bond voting AYE and Member Linebarier voting NAY. Motion carried. At this time (8:22 p.m.) Chairman called for a recess until 8:30 p.m. Meeting reconvened at 8:33 p.m. At this time the Board continued discussion on Agenda Item B. PRAIRIE LAKES PUD. City Planner Wagner went over the Development Review Committee Report dated 5/8/86 in detail explaining the minor changes in wording. He stated that the City has gone over the Preliminary Master Plan at staff level and with the developers and that right now he wanted to address density and overall impact, etc. City Planner Wagner further stated that the concern now was the traffic study in process, i.e. `re 3 P 6 2, 6/10/86 PAGE 4 what the impact in and out of the site will be. City Planner Wagner stated the roads affected for this project would be A.D. Mims, Clark, Silver Star and Hackney Prairie. At this time, the developers expect 9,300 additional traffic trips per day from this development and A.D. Mims Rd. would be overloaded if all the traffic was directed there. He also stated that the City would like Clark Rd. 4 -laned with the developer absorbing the coat. Mr. Linebarier stated that would not help the traffic problems on A.D. Mims or Ocoee - Clarcona. City Planner Wagner stated that another problem was means of access with the density proposed in the first phase of the development. From a fire protection standpoint, we want to be sure there is more than one access to the development. He further stated that this was a high density area and the developers were not going to be able to avoid cutting down a lot of the trees, but with a good tree survey they could nave the older trees. City Planner Wagner felt that the developer was concerned with conserving the natural beauty in the area. Chairman Swickerath asked if each dwelling would require 2 off - street parking spaces in addition to the street parking, and the City Planner replied that the level of control is the key and the Board has this control. He added that the Board could require overflow parking in a storage lot or restrict street parking. Mrs. Bond questioned the selling price for the units and City Planner Wagner answered that the market for that area was mid 60'a to mid 70's. Chairman Swickerath stated that he felt 1 4140 this project was exciting; that the plans will preserve the natural beauty /habitat of the area and that a 40' lot was acceptable. City Planner Wagner stated that with the market rate today developers are putting more units on leas land but this makes them come up with better designs. Mrs. Bond stated that she was concerned with future commercial development in this area spoiling the natural beauty. City Planner Wagner replied that the proposal of 150,000 square feet of commercial apace was beyond what the City needed there and the staff proposal was 60,000 square feet on 10 acres. Chairman Swickerath asked if there was any developer feedback on that proposal and City Planner Wagner answered that he had not but that they were looking for some action /guidance from this Board. At this time, Chairman Swickerath called for a second Planning and Zoning Board meeting to be held on July 22, 1986. The July 08, 1986 meeting is a point session with the Commission. Further discussion of Prairie Lakes PUD and all other new business will be discussed at the July 22, 1986 meeting. D. DISCUSSION OF WESTERN BELTWAY EXTENSION City Planner Wagner stated that the status of the Western Beltway Extension is that the Expressway Authority is presently in the process of selecting a consultant to do the b ier 4 P & 2, 6/10/86 PAGE 5 alignment and impact study. He further stated that there *r, were 3 proposals for the project at this time. The schedule is a 12 month study getting under way in July with the first 3 to 4 months being most important as the alignment is determined in this time frame. City Planner Wagner stated that this project will have a tremendous effect on the City. He further stated that one of the proposed routes was went of the City between Winter Garden and Ocoee but this was ruled out by the Expressway Authority. Other possible alignments are (1) Clark Road north through town to the U.S. Homey project through Spring Lakes area, (2) Rose Hill area through Lake Stanley & Lake Johio and (3) Lake Stanley and Lake Lucie to the East side of Apopka Vineland Rd. City Planner Wagner stated that the study will determine the best route and that the big issue of the study will be what the project will do to the character of these areas. He further stated that the expressway would be a limited access, not a local road and that the question was would this help Ocoee and what would it do to our land uses. Chairman Swickerath stated that he had several concerns as a member of the Board and the Community; (1) That the Board be as knowledgeable as possible about this project (2) That the Board find out quickly enough so that if there are objections they can be voiced and (3) That the Board be aware of the Expressway Authority's plans so the Board can perform its tacks somewhat in line with them. Mr. Smith made a motion that the Planning and Zoning Board oppose any alignment that would be other kir,. than West of Ocoee and East of Winter Garden, seconded by Mrs. Cook which opened the floor for discussion. Chairman Swickerath stated that the Board needs to pay attention to this project, be knowledgable and informed. Chairman Swickerath stated that this motion was to the Expressway Authority not to the City Commission. Motion carried by a 4 to 3 vote with Members Cook, Sanders, Smith and Brooklyn voting AYE and Members Swickerath, Linebarier and Bond voting NAY. Iv. =IMMO Mrs. Cook stated that she would not be here for the July 08, 1986 meeting. Mr. Linebarier stated that he would not be here for the July 08, or July 22, 1986 meetings. Chairman Swickerath stated that at the last Planning and Zoning Board meeting, annexation for land near the Heller Brothers property was recommended and that in the interim between that meeting and the next Commission meeting a mayor portion of that property was withdrawn from the application. He wondered if these petitions should be amended after approval of this Board and if they were, should the Board withdraw their approval. Mr. Sanders stated that the final decision was in the hands of the Commission anyway so he did not see why it mattered. Mr. Linebarier stated that as long as the 5 P & 2, 6/10/86 PAGE 6 Commission was made aware of the Planning and Zoning Boards Icy„ original recommendation and that any subsequent changes were not endorsed by this Board, it did not matter. Chairman Swickerath stated that he just wanted to draw the Board's attention to the matter. v. 6QMINNENT Mr. Sanders made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Smith and approved unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:02 p.m. Chairman Swickerath ATTEST: u Deputy Clerk Amesbury 6