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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 11-09-1988 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING HELD oi•by NOVEMBER 9, 1988 The meeting was called to order at 6:32 P.M. by Chairman Swickerath. PRESENT: Chairman Swickerath, Vice - Chairman Smith, Board Members: Linebarier, Bond, and Weeks, Acting City Manager Finch, Planning Director Behrens, Sr. Associate Planner Harper, Associate Planner Claman, and Secretary King ABSENT: Board Member: Bello and Switzer and Alternate: Breeze APPROVAL OF MINUTES Chairman Swickerath stated that since the Minutes of the Planning and Zoning Meeting dated October 11, 1988 and October 25, 1988 were not prepared he suggested to table the minutes. Swickerath's last commment of the meeting was that he wanted these minutes prepared by the next Planning and Zoning meeting. OLD BUSINESS TEMPLE GROVE ESTATES - REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAN Acting City Manager Dennis Finch wanted to bring back the revised Now preliminary plan and present it to the Planning and Zoning Board as an update to the board members. Finch reminded the board members of the project as the subdivision on Silver Star Road just as it makes the "S" curve, just east of Johio Shores. When it went to the board the first time (October 11, 1988) staff had several comments on the plan, so many that it was requested that this particular project be brought back before the Planning and Zoning board before the preliminary plan was approved. One of the major changes that was made was the realignment of the entrance on Silver Star Road and also they allowed for an additional 20 feet of right -of -way on Silver Star Road and the associated set -backs from Silver Star Road. They eliminated the so called park on the extreme east end of the site which is on the east side of Goodhomes Road. Finch continued to say that the biggest change is the new entrance on Silver Star Road more toward the Southwest corner of the property. The elimination of the dedicated park of the extreme east side of the property, east side of Goodhomes Road. The proposed park property was not in the City limits. They have brought a park internal to the subdivision and is located north of the subdivision next to Silver Star Road. Planning Director Behrens stated to the board members that the developer has allocated Twenty -Two Thousand Five Hundred dollars ($22,500) for park improvements on a 1.5 acre park. Finch continued to comment on the project regarding the entrance onto Silver Star Road that the existing right -of -way Nosy which runs north and south which bisects the property is still being worked on. Under normal code the subdivision would be required to dedicate what additional right -of -way is necessary to Page 2 4.1r Planning & Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 make a full blown right -of -way. Finch questioned Charlie True of McIntosh Associates, on whether the lot width had been determined and whether the right -of -way had been dedicated. Mr. True was present to answer any questions and stated that it was an existing right -of -way that varies from 45 feet in width to 30 feet. The existing right -of -way does not meet city standards as far as a paved street. Secondly, the City did not want them to connect the right -of -way to Silver Star Road and use that as an entrance. If we could have used that as the entrance if we would have given the additional right -of -way and would be willing to pay to use it as an entrance. Since that idea was rejected, or the City did not request it they are at the point that they would either vacate it or us the plan which shows that they are leaving it exactly as it is. The City can do what ever they want in the future. Additionaly, lots 15 through 26 and lot 74 were made deeper, there are power easements on the rear of those lots. When the City sees fit to have a north and south collector, there would be room for them to acquire additional right -of -way and those lots would still be useable lots. Finch wanted to address the board on whether the right -of -way should be vacated. If the board is not going to prove it there is no use in leaving it there. It should be vacated and be done with. Mr. True i11r► commented that the Department of Transportation (D.O.T.) will have the final word on this plan. Board Member Pat Bond left the room. Finch recommended approval subject to the staff report of October 7, 1988 that went before the Planning & Zoning Board on October 11, 1988 for a Preliminary Subdivision Review and the revision of this plan. Chairman Swickerath asked if there were comments from the audience, there were none. Swickerath asked for the boards pleasure. After Bond returned, the motion was made. Board Member Burton Smith made the motion to recommend to the City Commission that the revised preliminary subdivision plan be approved subject to the staff report of October 7, 1988 and, providing that the revised plan meets D.O.T. requirements. Pat Bond seconded and the motion carried unanimously. LAKE OLYMPIA ESTATES - FINAL PLAN REVIEW Acting City Manager Dennis Finch presented the background of this project. The Final Construction Plans have been submitted to the City as a courtesy to the Planning and Zoning Board. The developer's Final Plans were brought back to compare with the Preliminary Plan. The Planning and Zoning Board received sheets y related to the preliminary and the final plan, this was to show that there were no significant difference in the two. Page 3 Planning and Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 Dave Outlaw of Wescar, Inc. was present and went through the sheets and pointed out any difference in the plans. He stated that they had started out with 73 lots and now have 72 lots. Board Member Pat Bond addressed Mr. Outlaw on the run -off from Silver Star Road. Mr. Outlaw stated that this development would not create any additional run -off to the lake. Outlaw stated that this site has had extensive review and there are three retention ponds on the site. Board Member John Linebarier arrived for the meeting. Finch agreed with Outlaw and commented that PEC had reviewed these plans extensively, with the retention ponds it acts as a filter before run -off reaches the lake. Burton Smith questioned the two access roads. As Outlaw explained, there would be a temporary crash gate barrier prior to paving of Clark Road. At the time of paving they will access onto Clark Road, reclaim the cul -de -sac and make it a straight access. Finch mentioned to the board that no official action was required from the board. Staff wanted to present this to the fir► board for them to see where this project stands. Board Member John Linebarier questioned the status of the original staff report dated April 18, 1988. He continued to say that at the time of review the board referred them to staff and there were several items that were marked off for discussion. He wanted to know if the staff comments had been resolved. Linebarier stated that the board had asked a couple of times to get the feed back on how the preliminary staff reports and recommendations to prior developer's agreements were resolved. Linebarier stated the numbers 7, 9, 11, 18 and 21 were all subject to discussion or referred to staff and wanted the status. Finch quick went over from memory the status of the numbers Linebarier called out and Outlaw gave his input. NEW BUSINESS LAKE OLYMPIC TOWNHOMES - CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN Acting City Manager Dennis Finch presented this project to the Planning and Zoning Board Members stating that this project is a development on the north side of White Road immediately east of where Montgomery Road is going in. They are townhouses presently. The east part of the project was developed and the west half is vacated except that the road and improvements have been put in. The land was never developed with the actual structure. Mr. Neal Sandy wanted to develop the site, and was present to explain the situation for the boards review. Page 4 Planning and Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 Presently the existing structures are quadraplexes and would sell these as fee simple. The Zoning Ordinance should be checked regarding the current zoning and the allowance of fee simple. The property is zoned R -3. The existing units have four -units to a building. Chairman Swickerath stated that the plans were dated 1984. Finch stated that the improvements were already in the ground and that Mr. Sandy was actually reducing the overall density of the project. Staff needs to get the Fee Simple Transfer clarified. Board Member Pat Bond left the meeting Neal Sandy went before the board to present his plans and concepts at the request of Planning Director Bruce Behrens. Chairman of Planning and Zoning questioned why this project was brought before the board. Finch explained that this project is a strange situation that the improvements are already out there and the project was abandoned. Swickerath stated that he had documentation that was five years old. He suggested that the owner provide the City with a site plan, so that the engineer could review it. Finch stated that it was a conceptual site plan and that Mr. Sandy needed some kind of direction from the board. Mr. Sandy stated what he wanted from the board and that was to let him stay on the same site and build his building instead of the four -unit building. Swickerath stated that the Planning and Zoning Board could not help him out. It seemed that it was more for the Building Official to handle. Finch wanted to bring it before the board because of its unusual nature. The Chairman thanked Mr. Sandy for coming. The audience was asked if there were any questions. One of the residents spoke up on the density from four to three. RECESS: 8:30 PM CALL TO ORDER: 8:40 PM CITY OF OCOEE - TRAFFIC CIRCULATION ELEMENT Planning Director Bruce Behrens presented the Traffic Circulation Element which was prepared by Professional Engineering Consultants ( P.E.C.). The revised Traffic Circulation Element was distributed to the Board Members. Behrens explained that the changes were made to page 40, the information was reduced substantially on the recommendation of implementation of cost by priorities (same amount of money but split up). This element will go to City Commission November 15, 1988 for review. This element does not need to be voted on. The final submittal date for this element and the other three which will be discussed at this meeting will be January 1, 1991. This is a dry run, a work product that the State allows under the State grant, to submit Page 5 Now Planning and Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 and receive comments back as to the deficiencies or any comments they may have. The deadline date for the work product is November 30, 1988. The following questions were asked by the Board Members and answered by either Bruce Behrens or Bob Campbell of PEC: 1. Question: Why would the area outside the city limits be addressed. Answer: Had we confined the area of study just to the City limits, it would not have given a true picture of the actual area and the road way impact on the City limits. 2. Comment from Board Member: Dates should be provided on the Tables and Maps. 3. Comment from Board Member: On page 13 where Beard Road is mentioned the board felt it was an error and should read Beaulah Road. Staff will check into it. Now 4. Discussion: Clark Road right -of -way should be wide enough for a four -lane road including turn lanes and utilities. Bob Campbell of PEC addressed the board with an explanation of the 20 Year Projected Revenue on page 46 with some discussion between the board and staff. CITY OF OCOEE - POPULATION PROJECTION ELEMENT Associate Planner Lisa Claman distributed and presented to the board the Population Project Element and reviewed the contents with the board. This work product will be submitted to the State November 30, 1988. No comments from the Board Members. CITY OF OCOEE - CONSERVATION ELEMENT Associate Planner Lisa Claman distributed and presented to the board the Conservation Element and reviewed the contents with the board. This work product will also be submitted to the State November 30, 1988. Bruce handed out to the board members a copy of the "Florida Non - Point Source Assessment ". Page 6 Planning and Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 Claman noted to the board the change on page 14, Table VI - Pollutants - The legends, FL: Flow alteration and OI: Oils /grease should be switched from the way they are indicated on the last two columns. Prairie Lake should be the only lake with Flow Alteration. Claman continued on page 16, paragraph 3, figures 7, 8, 9 and 10 - Soils, Geology, and Topography. The board commented, that the recommended 5% slope of land not be acceptable to development, be changed because 5% is nothing. The board was offered to ask any questions or make any comments. The board was uneasy as far as the contents in the elements presented so far. The board recommended to the staff that they get out and walk the land and not take generalized information and link it with the City or take specified information and put it to a general situation. Behrens commented that the elements were generated as work products and he realized they need alot of work, but for the City not to lose the grant a report must be submitted by November 30, 1988. The work product can be changed and City staff needs and Planning and Zoning Board's comments. One more suggestion from the board was to put maps next to the tables for easier access. 'err CITY OF OCOEE - RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT Associate Planner Lisa Claman distributed and presented to the board the Recreation and Open Space Element and reviewed the contents with the board. This work product will submitted to the State November 30, 1988. Jim Beech, Recreation Director for Ocoee was present at the request of Bruce Behrens. Mr. Beech had several comments to the staff, but in general was pleased with the way the element looked. Behrens distributed to the board a copy of "The City of Lakeland Executive Summary Impact Fee Study ". Board Members discussed the procedures of developers dedicating the recreation area in the subdivisions. Also, other comments relating to lakes and parks were discussed. OTHER BUSINESS City Staff and the Planning and Zoning Board agreed to schedule a Special Meeting on November 14, 1988 at 7:00 PM to discuss the Conservation, Recreation, and Open Space Elements of the Comprehensive Plan. Chairman Swickerath stated that he wants a full board on Monday night and requested that the minutes from the last two meetings including this meeting be ready for approval for Monday. Page 7 Planning and Zoning Board Meeting November 9, 1988 Chairman Swickerath brought the format of the staff report to the attention of City Staff and asked that the format used in old staff reports (issue, background, discussion, and recommendation) be followed in the future. To set the record straight, Chairman Swickerath stated that there had been strange literature going around last week from one political candidate about relocation of the beltway, etc. indicating that it was their neighborhood that had it moved. Swickerath stated that this information is false and that everyone that was in the path of the beltway was complaining that they did not want it in their backyard. But, the real reason the beltway was moved was because of the Planning and Zoning Board, the City Commission, and former Planning Director Russ Wagner in presenting a constructive alternative place to run the road and the City followed through on it. ADJOURNMENT Meeting was adjourned at 10:25 PM ? T ifli ' Alit C T IRMAN SWICRERATH ATTEST: // /( • ELLEN RING, SECRETA