HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 07-27-1989 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
HELD ON THURSDAY, JULY 27, 1989
Chairman Swickerath called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman Swickerath; Vice Chairman Linebarier; Board
members Weeks, Switzer, Sims, Shiver, and Alternate Carroll; City
Manager Shapiro; Director of Planning Behrens; and Deputy Clerk
Resnik.
ABSENT: Board member Bond and Alternate member Breeze.
Chairman Swickerath said for the record that he wanted to publicly
apologize to Vice Chairman Linebarier for cutting him short when
Vice Chairman Linebarier was trying to speak at the last meeting.
Chairman Swickerath said he had already personally apologized to
Vice Chairman Linebarier.
Chairman Swickerath also said he was upset at the volume of the
material sent to the members for this meeting and at the short
amount of time the Board was given to review it but after sitting
down to look it over, he found it well put together and was
impressed with staff's effort.
City Manager Shapiro apologized for the short notice but said
because staff needed to get the Capital Improvement Plan to the
City Commission by August 1, he needed to call this special meeting
so that he could have the Planning and Zoning Board's input on the
material when it went to the Commission.
City Manager Shapiro explained that there were four numbers that
the Board needed to keep in mind when going through the Capital
Improvement Plan document, looking at each item and prioritizing
them. He said a "0" priority meant that that item was already in
progress and already being funded. City Manager Shapiro said there
were not many of those "0" priorities. He said a "1" priority
meant the item had the utmost urgency and it was definitely needed
in the year that it was proposed for. A "2" priority indicates the
item is needed, but may not be afforded, and a "3" priority is one
that although it is probably needed, it will only be fulfilled if
money becomes available at some time in the five -year period. City
Manager Shapiro pointed out that the document already contained
each department head's numbers as well as a column on how the City
Manager prioritized them.
City Manager Shapiro said copies of the road improvements items
were handed out this evening because they had been accidentally
deleted in the revising of the document. He said these items were
important because there would be a lot of activity to do with Clark
Road included in next year's budget.
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City Manager Shapiro explained that the improvements would be paid
for in several ways including ad valorem taxes, service fees, and
impact fees as well as block grants, revenue bonds, state aid, and
other loans.
Chairman Swickerath asked City Manager Shapiro if the Planning and
Zoning Board as the Local Planning Agency should be concerned with
everything in the document, or whether they should just discuss
those items that related to planning and zoning. City Manager
Shapiro asked the Board to comment on all items so that the
document would not have any blanks in it when it gets forwarded to
the Commission. He said he realized some items would not be as
important to this Board as others, but he would appreciate a rating
on each item. Chairman Swickerath said he personally felt out of
touch with what Finance Director Ivan Poston did, for example, and
what that department needed, and in what priority, for its
operation. City Manager Shapiro said he would be happy to explain
what each department was requesting and why it was requesting each
item so that the Board could come to a consensus of how they
perceived the priority of that item.
Alternate Board member Carroll said he would especially like to
discuss the items that were prioritized differently by the
department heads and the City Manager. Board member Shiver asked
whether City Manager Shapiro had spent any time with the department
heads to get their reasonings behind their prioritizing schemes
before he came up with his figures. City Manager Shapiro said he
had spoken with each department head and they all were in basic
agreement but that there were certain circumstances where people
had too many high priorities and not enough money. In those cases,
City Manager Shapiro determined his ratings after having
discussions with department heads.
City Manager Shapiro began by directing the Board to Page 2,
General Government items that referred to the Finance Department.
He explained that the City needed to become more computerized and
that the additional computer equipment listed as Project No. 1
would enable networking capabilities. He said the old computer
system would be transferred from City Hall to the Police
Department. City Manager Shapiro said the new equipment was fairly
high - powered (for NCR) and it had room to expand. He said the
staff planned on computerizing its building permits, occupational
licensing information, code enforcement, and other information.
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Board member Shiver asked how many people in City Hall currently
utilize the computer system. City Manager Shapiro said it is used
extensively by the Finance Department, Personnel, and Utility
Billing. Board member Shiver asked if the price covered the cost
of software and City Manager Shapiro said it did.
Vice Chairman Linebarier asked if the system would be bought
outright or if it would be financed and City Manager Shapiro said
it would be financed over four years. Chairman Swickerath asked
why all the City departments could not be hooked up to the same
system. City Manager Shapiro said the Police Department required
24 hours use of its computer system and he did not want other
information to be obtainable 24 hours a day.
City Manager Shapiro said Project No. 2, the additional City Hall
building, would be an extension of the current building utilizing
the parking lot area. He said the City would save $1 million by
adding to the current site rather than building elsewhere. City
Manager Shapiro said an additional 40,000- 50,000 square feet would
be added. He said the estimate was based on a contractor's
Irr estimate for most of the work but that City staff would do the
finished walls in order to save money. Chairman Swickerath said
that $38 per square foot for the shell was not realistic and that
the figure was not adequate. He also said that staff was not
qualified and should not be doing any work, but rather it should
be sent out to bid. City Manager Shapiro stressed that staff would
only be putting up internal walls. Chairman Swickerath said as an
architect, $38 per square foot was not realistic and that the
overall square footage for the amount of money estimated would
probably be closer to 25,000- 30,000. Board member Sims agreed and
said he felt it would probably be close to 25,000 square feet.
City Manager Shapiro asked if the Board would agree to increase the
amount 20 -30 %. Chairman Swickerath said either to increase the
estimated cost or to decrease the amount of square footage. City
Manager Shapiro said he would have to double check on the square
footage and that he may have the figure wrong. City Manager
Shapiro said this amount was based on one estimate. Chairman
Swickerath said that plans were needed in order to get a realistic
bid. Vice Chairman Linebarier asked how much square footage they
would get from the parking lot area. City Manager Shapiro said
15,000 square foot for each floor, less the unused space. He said
this would not take up the entire parking area. Vice Chairman
Linebarier asked why the City did not build the first floor and
then sometime in the future build the second floor. City Manager
Shapiro said it is more expensive to build that way. He said the
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reason the project was listed for 1993 -94 was because although it
probably was needed sooner, there were other things such as
sidewalks that were needed first. City Manager Shapiro said they
were going to need the 40,000- 50,000 square footage and asked if
the Board wanted to increase the line item to $1,800,000. This
would take into account the additional expense per square foot as
well as the 5% cost of living increase for each year between now
and when the project is anticipated to occur.
Board member Sims asked how the figures could be used if they were
not reduced to the current year. City Manager Shapiro said the
figures included financing costs as well as cost of living
increases. Board member Sims asked if the costs were closer to
future costs and City Manager Shapiro said yes. Board member Sims
said it was a different approach than he was used to.
City Manager Shapiro explained Project No. 3 was to replace the
current copier. Board member Shiver asked why the City bought its
copier rather than leasing it. City Manager Shapiro said he would
rather lease it but buying it is less expensive. Board member Sims
*itire agreed that the City ought to rent it and trade it in. The Board
asked to make note to lease the machine when it came time to get
the new copier.
City Manager Shapiro explained Project No. 4 would enable the
utility bills to be mailed in envelopes rather than as they are
now. He said the current method where the billing information is
on a self - mailer violates customer courtesy. Chairman Swickerath
asked if it would be less expensive to hire someone and City
Manager Shapiro said no.
City Manager Shapiro said Project No. 5, the last item under the
Finance Department, was to upgrade the current City Hall to better
utilize the existing space. He said more counter space would be
built as well as better utilization of space to allow for more
desks. The money included expenses for walls, offices, counters,
carpet, air conditioning, and filing cabinets.
There was some discussion on safe storage areas for computer disks
and what system the City had for power outages.
Board member Shiver moved to accept the City Manager's priority
rating with the exception of the copier which the Board wanted to
be shown as a #3 priority in its column, Alternate Board member
Carroll seconded, and approval was unanimous.
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City Manager Shapiro said Page 3 contained the two projects that
the Planning Department had requested. He said the department was
looking to purchase a disk drive for an existing computer terminal
and a file cabinet. Board member Shiver moved that the Board
recommend the same priority ratings as the City Manager, Board
member Sims seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro explained that Pages 4, 5, and 6 related to
the Public Works Department. Board member Switzer said that he had
noticed many new City vehicles when he visited City Hall on
occasion. City Manager Shapiro said there were several replacement
vehicles that were needed for the Public Works departments but that
with the exception of one, they were not given a #1 priority. City
Manager Shapiro explained that the City vehicles for those
employees who did not require a truck would be phased out and that
those employees would receive a car allowance instead. He said the
gas, insurance, and maintenance were too costly on City vehicles
and that a $400 per month car allowance for employees would still
save the City money. City Manager Shapiro said the maintenance
cost alone for City vehicles averages about $2,000 per year per
r vehicle. He said only those people who really use a vehicle during
their everyday work will actually get City vehicles. He said the
automobiles that would be available once the car allowances go into
effect would go to those employees who really need cars who are now
for the most part using cars that are older and require constant
maintenance.
City Manager Shapiro said the two -way radio listed as Project
No. 3 on Page 4 was needed in order to communicate with people out
in the field rather than having to page the person and have them
have to get to a telephone. He gave the cellular phone (Project
No. 4) the lowest rating because he felt it was not necessary.
Project No. 5 and Project No. 6 were given a lower priority because
the department does not currently have a secretary.
Board member Sims commented that he did not agree with the City
Manager's philosophy with regard to City vehicles. Board member
Sims said he felt it was important for the City's image to not only
provide vehicles to its employees who may need them, but to ensure
that those vehicles are well maintained and that they carry the
insignia of the City so that the City's image will reflect this
well- maintained fleet. He said they should be the same model and
same color to be easily recognizable. Board member Sims thought
as the third largest city in Orange County, the vehicles could
easily be substantiated.
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City Manager Shapiro said he disagreed because using himself as an
example, he was issued a City vehicle and it basically sat in the
parking lot eight hours a day while the Code Enforcement Officer's
vehicle was breaking down almost daily. He said the City does not
have the money to issue all new cars so this is the best answer.
Chairman Swickerath said the City Manager ought to be commended for
giving up his own vehicle. There was discussion on the insurance
employees would have to carry if they were to drive their own cars
for company business. City Manager Shapiro said that court cases
have shown that the City may be liable for worker's compensation,
but that he did not know of any cases where it had been established
that a municipality was liable unless a vehicle was unsafe and the
City should have known about it. Board member Sims said the City
would have to require the employee to carry more insurance. City
Manager Shapiro said that would be required. Vice Chairman
Linebarier said his company required him to carry a certain amount
of liability insurance because he drove his vehicle for business
purposes.
Board member Sims said although it may not be financially possible,
err he still believed in the philosophy he had stated. City Manager
Shapiro said the City was trying to accomplish some of what Board
member Sims was saying, by having a nicer looking fleet, but
because of financial reasons, the City could no longer justify
providing vehicles for people who did not require them. He said
the abuse of the amount of gasoline consumed, the cost of
insurance, and the abuse of the maintenance provided necessitated
the change to car allowances. Board member Shiver asked what this
would do to employee morale. City Manager Shapiro said it would
improve morale because for the employees who now will get a car
allowance it will provide an Internal Revenue Service write off as
well as allowing them to also use their vehicles for personal use,
and for the other employees who really need a good City vehicle,
it will mean a better vehicle for them. Board member Shiver asked
how many of these vehicles would be handed down and City Manager
Shapiro said 10 -20. Board member Shiver asked what management -
level employees would keep their vehicles and City Manager Shapiro
said none. He said he had already discussed this with them and
that they did not mind getting a car allowance instead.
Vice Chairman Linebarier moved to recommend that the Board's
priority ratings be the same as those made by the City Manager,
Board member Shiver seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said Page 5 dealt mainly with building
maintenance. He explained that the City planned to expand the
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Community Center and that the stereo system listed as Project
No. 5 was both for music as well as a better sound system for the
City Commission meetings.
Board member Sims said he felt the City had not budgeted enough
money to do Project Nos. 6 and 7. City Manager Shapiro said they
did not plan to repave the lots but rather just reseal and
restripe.
Vice Chairman Linebarier asked why the Community Center addition
was planned for 1989 -90. City Manager Shapiro agreed that this was
not as big a priority as some of the other items and that is why
he gave it a #2 priority rather than the #1 that the department
head gave it. Vice Chairman Linebarier moved that the Board give
a #3 priority rating to the Community Center addition, Board member
Carroll seconded, and approval was unanimous. (Board member Sims
was out of the room and did not vote.)
Board member Carroll moved to prioritize the items on Page 5 as
well as the recorder item on Page 6 with the same ratings that the
City Manager had given them with the exception of the Community
Center addition which they had already voted on, Board member
Switzer seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the radio system listed as Project
No. 1 on Page 7 had already been authorized by the City Commission
and was therefore given a "0" priority. City Manager Shapiro said
there would be an antenae on the top of the Colony Plaza for
blackout purposes. Board member Shiver asked how this radio tied
in to the other system that is requested for later on. City
Manager Shapiro said the two systems can not tie in but the City
can not afford the other system at this time. Board member Shiver
recommended that the City share its radio system with other
municipalities. City Manager Shapiro said this was already being
discussed with Apopka, Windermere, and other cities but because of
the urgency of the need for a system, Project No. 1 had already
been authorized.
City Manager Shapiro said the Pace Data System (Project No. 2)
would add more memory to the existing system but because it would
still not be adequate, he planned to give the Police Department the
system from City Hall after the new City Hall system was purchased
and as a result, the Pace Data System was given a #3 priority by
the City Manager. He said City Hall's system would provide the
Police Department with more capabilities than its present system
offered.
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City Manager Shapiro said the patrol vehicles listed as Project
No. 3 were replacement vehicles for the 1982 and 1984 models and
also to increase the fleet. He said the electronic sirens, the
mobile radios, and the light /sound bars were all crucial and he
gave them #1 priorities. City Manager Shapiro said the Police
Department also needed a new building or more space but that
because of the expense, he gave it a #2 priority. Chairman
Swickerath brought up the fact that the Police Department had
requested a mobile office unit but that the City Commission turned
it down because of the Code. City Manager Shapiro said he realized
that they were in desperate need of more space but that they had
no way to afford it so he felt he had to give it a #2 priority.
He said they needed more space for classrooms, a larger patrol
room, and more office space but he said, to be truthful, he was not
sure that they would be able to fund it even in 1991.
City Manager Shapiro said the furnishings for the new building were
also given a #2 priority by him since they would not need them
until the new building was built. He said Project No. 9, the
Smartnet System, had already been turned down by the City
*law Commission and was therefore given a #3 priority by both the
department and the City Manager.
City Manager Shapiro said the pistols in Project No. 10 were either
replacements or for new officers that the department would be
getting. He said the camcorder had a #3 priority because the City
already had one and he felt there really was no need for a second.
City Manager Shapiro said the swivel tilt chairs were for the
dispatchers and the cost included three. He said the desk and the
paper shredder were not needed because City Hall had both these
items and had given them to the Police Department. The microfilm
machine was given a lower priority by the City Manager because he
wanted to assess the situation and get enough equipment for several
departments to utilize such machines.
On Page 8, the City Manager said the K -9 container the City
currently had would suffice and that the K -9 lifeguard alarm was
not seen as a #1 priority either since the City had done well
without one.
City Manager Shapiro said he gave the work center a #2 priority
because he felt the department could make do with tables the City
already had and he gave the typewriters a #3 priority because he
wanted to stress the use of word processors instead.
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City Manager Shapiro said the K -9 dog was a #1 priority but the
portable prep system, the patrol unit cages, and the camera were
not high priority items. Board member Shiver asked if the cages
from the old patrol vehicles could be put into the new vehicles and
City Manager Shapiro said they were sometimes able to reuse them.
City Manager Shapiro said the last two items on Page 8, the instant
playback recorder and the megabyte modules, were given a low
priority because they already have one recorder and the modules
they will not need with City Hall's computer system that the Police
Department will inherit when City Hall gets its new system. Board
member Shiver said the recorder they are requesting probably has
a 30 second playback rather than a 10 minute playback and that this
is a very important machine that could save lives. City Manager
Shapiro said his position was that if the machine was only $500 and
it was that important, the City would have gotten one long ago, and
the fact that the department was not requesting it until 1990 -91
made him believe it was not something so urgent. He said he had
spoken to Police Chief Boyd about this item and the Chief did not
argue the point to any great extent.
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Board member Shiver moved to give the same priority rating to the
items on Pages 7 and 8 as the City Manager's, Board member Switzer
seconded, and approval was unanimous.
RECESS: 8:30 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER: 8:45 p.m.
City Manager Shapiro said the Fire Department capital improvement
requests were contained on Pages 9, 10, 11, and 12. The fire hose
was given a high priority because the hose was more than 20 years
old. He said the department was also in dire need of hose packs
and nozzles. City Manager Shapiro said he gave the chemical suits
a #2 priority because they currently have two or three suits which
he felt was adequate for the time being and because there was not
enough money in next year's budget to carry the costs of these
additional suits. He said these suits would be discussed during
next year's budget discussions because Fire Chief Strosnider is so
adamant about getting them.
City Manager Shapiro said the Hazmat suits listed as Project
No. 5 were given a #1 priority for 1990 -91 and the heat detection
units would be purchased over the next two years. The air bottles
were also given a #1 priority for 1990 -91 but the cam recorder was
%o given a #3 priority by the City Manager because the City already
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had one and just as he thought the Police Department did not need
an additional one, neither did he think the Fire Department could
justify an additional one.
City Manager Shapiro said the float pump was given a #1 priority
because the City did not currently have one. He said the Homelite
saws were also given a #1 priority but would be purchased over the
next three years.
City Manager Shapiro said the department was also requesting a new
Dodge Ram Charger because the one the Lieutenant was driving was
a "lemon" but City Manager Shapiro said he gave it a #2 priority
because he felt it could be put off. He said he gave the other
vehicle request a #2 priority also but the replacement for Engine
2 and the rebuilding of Rescue 4 were given #1 priorities. He said
he also wanted to get the department an Advance Life Support (ALS)
rating and to do that they really needed to have a top quality
ambulance. City Manager Shapiro said the Ocoee Fire Department was
now classified as Basic Life Support (BLS) but an ALS would allow
the qualified personnel to treat as well as transport people.
%air Board member Shiver agreed that the department needed to get the
ALS rating because people have died because our personnel were
unauthorized to give necessary treatment.
There was some discussion about the City working with West Orange
Hospital in this regard and Board member Shiver asked if the
hospital could house its ambulance in the Ocoee station. He said
about 15% of the people that the Ocoee Fire Department responds to
are ALS cases but even though it seems a small percentage, if
treatment is not given within four to six minutes, the chance of
survival drops 70 %.
City Manager Shapiro said he thought the relationship with the
hospital would become more positive with its move to the City but
that the ALS was needed now so he did not want to wait. Board
member Carroll asked why City Manager Shapiro felt the relationship
with the hospital would change and City Manager Shapiro said he
thought the hospital's reputation was not as good as it could be
and that the City had thought of the hospital as "Winter Garden's
hospital" but that the hospital's new facilities in Ocoee would
change that. He said the hospital's relationship with the City was
very positive at the moment because the City has welcomed the move
here. Board member Carroll said the location of the hospital's
ambulances would not change as of now and that the ambulance
services were contracted out.
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Board member Weeks asked how the City would plan for the
possibility of a fire in a multi -story building such as the new
hospital would have. City Manager Shapiro said a fire such as that
could not be fought from the outside very well and that usually the
internal fire protection such as sprinkler systems was the basic
tool for high rise buildings.
City Manager Shapiro moved on to Project No. 15 and said he did not
feel that the department needed additional computer equipment right
now.
Board member Shiver asked about the lifepack difibulator on Page
10 and City Manager Shapiro said the City ultimately wanted to have
two units that would be ALS equipped. He said the Fire Station #3
item was to put aside money to build the station but that the land
had already been donated. Project No. 27, an additional rescue
ambulance, would be needed at the same time as the new station so
that it could be equipped. Because of these necessities, City
Manager Shapiro said he gave a #2 rating to the aerial pumper.
%ow City Manager Shapiro said the Fire Department did an excellent job
on its five -year capital improvements plan. He said they needed
to justify the need for a fire impact fee and thought they had done
well. City Manager Shapiro commented on Project No. 38 which would
set aside an acre of land for Station No. 4 and said this would be
one of the items that would be paid for out of impact fees. He
also told the Planning and Zoning Board that they would see the
Fire Impact Fee Ordinance before it went to the City Commission.
City Manager Shapiro asked if there were any other questions on the
Fire Department section. Board member Shiver pointed out that
Project No. 36 should read "Mast Suits" not Mask Suits ". Vice
Chairman Linebarier asked if the Rescue Truck mentioned as Project
No. 45 was in addition to the other one previously mentioned and
City Manager Shapiro said yes because in the fifth year (1993 -94)
they would need three rescue trucks, two in regular operation and
one to serve as a back up.
Board member Shiver moved to have the Board give the same priority
ratings as the City Manager, Board member Switzer seconded, and
approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the Building Department items were next.
He said the automobiles were given a lower priority because they
will most likely get two automobiles from the detectives who will
*o, begin getting car allowances. He said he gave the PC and printer,
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the software program, and the mobile radio all #1 priorities
because it is important to get the building permits and fees
categorized and on the computer. City Manager Shapiro explained
that the radio was for an additional inspector position that was
needed because the City expected to go from 40 building permits per
month to 120 permits per month. He said the increase in building
fees collected will be used to cover the additional inspector's
salary.
Board member Linebarier moved to have the Board give the same
priority ratings as the City Manager, Board member Shiver seconded,
and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said Page 14 referred to items for the
cemetery. He said the purchase of land may not be necessary
because someone may develop a cemetery nearby. City Manager
Shapiro said the City can not afford the fence because all monies
collected from the cemetery will be put into a sinking fund for
perpetual care. He said once all the graves are purchased and
money is no longer coming in, this money set aside will have to be
fir used for upkeep of the facility.
Board member Sims moved to have the Board give the same priority
ratings as the City Manager, Board member Switzer seconded, and
approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro told the Board that the Street Department
Building on Kissimmee Avenue had been torn down and that the City
was selling the land. He said the Public Works Department needed
to be all in the same place and that the new offices would be in
the City Garage for now. City Manager Shapiro said eventually the
City Garage will be turned into a recreational facility and the
Public Works Department would move elsewhere.
City Manager Shapiro said the $39,000 for 1/2 ton pick up was
really for three vehicle replacements that would be needed over the
next five years. The street paving projects (Project Nos. 3 -14)
were scheduled to take place over the next two years and had been
given a recommended time to be paved by Street Department
Supervisor Elmore. City Manager Shapiro said the other items were
for equipment.
City Manager Shapiro said Page 17 was a list of proposed sidewalks
and that an average of $15,000 per year would be set aside for
these jobs.
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Board member Shiver said he was disappointed that the intersection
of Bluford Avenue and Orlando Avenue was not on the list of
improvements on Pages 18 and 18A. City Manager Shapiro said those
pages included improvements that would be made with the money from
the Bowness Road project and Clark Road bond issue. He said there
would be about $2.6 million left after both those projects are
complete and that this money could be used for these projects.
Chairman Swickerath cautioned that the money committed to Clark
Road by the bond issue should be kept for Clark Road because the
road would only be two lanes initially but there would be costs
involved with obtaining the necessary right -of -way to four -lane the
road and then to pay for those additional lanes. He said once the
developers paid their shares they would not pay for additional work
later on. City Manager Shapiro said it is a decision for the Board
and the City Commission to make whether they would rather use the
money to finish Clark Road or whether they feel other roads need
to be improved before more money is spent on widening Clark Road.
Board member Switzer asked whether Marshall Farms Road would be
repaved from Maguire Road to State Road 50. City Manager Shapiro
,.. said there would be a 1" asphalt top put down. Board member
Switzer asked if that would be sufficient since the Plantation
Sysco trucks would be traveling that route. City Manager Shapiro
said that was all they could do unless they wanted to reconstruct
the base and he did not think that the City could afford to do
that. He said this money also included some paving of dirt roads.
City Manager Shapiro said this was a political issue and that the
only policy he wanted to establish was that a program be set up.
He said it was up to the Board and ultimately the City Commission
which roads were done. City Manager Shapiro said any repairs which
are not a result of growth will be paid for out of the gasoline
tax.
Chairman Swickerath asked why the City needed a backhoe and City
Manager Shapiro explained it was to replace the front end loader
that is 15 years old and it will be used to clean out the ditches.
There was discussion about rebricking Lakeshore Drive and City
Manager Shapiro said he thought that was requested for drainage
purposes due to the asphalt washing into the lake and also thought
it might have to do with an image concern. Vice Chairman
Linebarier moved to have the Board give a #2 priority to Project
No. 52, the rebricking of Lakeshore Drive. City Manager Shapiro
said he would rather replace it with another road improvement and
keep it at a #1 priority because for the bond issue the City needs
to say these will all be done to spend the remaining money.
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Board member Swickerath asked if these items were in order of
importance and City Manager Shapiro said they were not. He said
Project Nos. 48 through 52 were using the Clark Road bond and the
others were from the money remaining from the Bowness Road project.
He added that the Geneva /Bluford improvements were not included in
either monies because those improvements would be funded through
the state and the Lyle Street improvements would be financed
through a block grant as would Security Circle.
City Manager Shapiro explained that the City did not need to
prioritize the items to be funded through the Clark Road bond
because all the City needed to do was to say that the money will
be spent until it is gone. He said if a #1 priority rating was
given to Clark Road and a #2 to all the other projects that would
be funded out of that bond money, then the state would consider the
other projects to not be a high priority for the City and the City
may not get the funds it needs.
Board member Shiver restated that he was still disappointed that
the Bluford and Orlando Avenues intersection was not one of the
``y improvements slated to be made. City Manager Shapiro said the
Board could take the Lakeshore Drive rebricking and replace it with
the Bluford /Orlando Avenue intersection. Board member Weeks asked
if there could also be a traffic light put at the intersection.
City Manager Shapiro said DOT had included the Ocoee - Apopka Road
and Palm Drive intersection signalization in its plans and assumed
it would look at other intersections as well.
Vice Chairman Linebarier moved to replace the rebricking of
Lakeshore Drive with the Bluford and Orlando Avenues intersection
improvements to include drainage and signalization provisions,
Board member Carroll seconded, and approval was unanimous.
Board member Switzer moved to give the remaining items the same
priority ratings as the City Manager, Vice Chairman Linebarier
seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said Page 19 had items pertaining to the Shop
(City Garage). He said there were no items scheduled for the
1989 -90 fiscal year but that there would be some additional fuel
tanks needed in 1993 -94. City Manager Shapiro said the
computerized diagnostic testing machine was not a high priority
because the City already had a machine that could perform similar
functions and the Shop staff needed to be trained how to use it.
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Vice Chairman Linebarier asked what would happen to the Shop staff
in the next few years. City Manager Shapiro said the department
would be reduced by one employee and there would be some changes
in the operation of the department.
Board member Sims asked if the fuel tanks the City currently had
were in compliance with regulations and City Manager Shapiro said
they were. He said they may have to replace the tanks before
1993 -94 but that it was put in that year because that was the year
for mandatory replacement.
Board member Carroll moved to have the Board give the same priority
ratings as the City Manager, Board member Shiver seconded, and
approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the Recreation Department's requests were
listed on Pages 20, 21, and 22. He said he gave the entrance signs
a #2 priority because he felt they were too expensive and he
thought it was more important to get more recreational equipment.
He also said the sprinkler system was needed but was also given a
'fir #2 priority because he did not think the City could afford it.
Board member Shiver said he was bothered by the City Manager's #2
priority on the new fencing. City Manager Shapiro said the City
had a higher priority to fix some of the recreational equipment
that was unsafe. Chairman Swickerath said if the City had any
unsafe playground equipment it should fix it immediately or get rid
of it. City Manager Shapiro said it would be fixed and that money
was budgeted for each year so that equipment could be repaired but
that the City would not be able to afford anything new.
Board member Carroll asked why the City bought the house that was
listed as Project No. 9. City Manager Shapiro said it was
purchased so that the City could provide shelter at the park and
have a summer youth program there as well.
City Manager Shapiro said the picnic pavilion listed as Project
No. 11 on Page 21 was given a #2 priority by him because the
department had too many other priorities and would not have the
funds for it next year. He said the renovations and expansion of
the Youth Center would be paid for out of the recreational impact
fees and would include a new roof, air conditioning, etc.
Board member Shiver said he felt strongly about the fencing and
that the fence currently in place was old and had been patched in
places. He said the fence was needed because police could not
constantly patrol the area.
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Board member Shiver moved that the Board's priority rating on the
new fencing be a #1, Board member Switzer seconded, and approval
was unanimous.
Board member Shiver moved that the remaining items under the
Recreational Department be given the same priority ratings as the
City Manager, Board member Switzer seconded, and approval was
unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said staff recommended a $12 million loan for
program for water and sewer. He said the money would include high
service wells for water storage and that the priorities could be
determined by looking at which years the different jobs were
scheduled for. City Manager Shapiro explained that the City's
consulting engineer, Professional Engineering Consultants (PEC),
had worked on each of these figures.
City Manager Shapiro said the "1/2" backhoe was listed as such
because the expense would be divided between the Water and
Wastewater Departments. He said the other equipment was given
`of mostly #2 priorities because of the funding constraints.
(Board member Linebarier left the meeting at 10:15 p.m.)
Board member Sims said that Project No. 13 on Page 24 must include
more than a new well since wells are in the range of $40,000. City
Manager Shapiro said the item included a whole new well field and
pumps. City Manager Shapiro said he would telephone Board member
Sims to let him know exactly what it involved because he could not
recall the specifics of the PEC Report.
City Manager Shapiro said the south plant had been put off and was
not even contained in the five -year plan because of funding. He
said most likely this project would take place in 1994 -95.
Board member Sims moved to give the same priority ratings as the
City Manager for the list of Water Department items, Board member
Shiver seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the Sanitation Department items were
listed on Page 26. He said the packers listed as Project No.8 were
listed to show that the trucks had already been purchased and that
there would be an ongoing payment through 1993 -94. He said the
truck and trailers would be funded out of the recycling program's
county grant.
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City Manager Shapiro explained that his recommendation to the City
Commission was that the City get out of the commercial business and
that the residential rate be reduced by about $1 per month. He
said the City had done things backwards and had based the rates on
commercial but that since most of the businesses used private
haulers, the residential customers were paying higher fees to
compensate. City Manager Shapiro said he would like for the City
Commission to look at this issue and would propose that the new
structure take effect in January.
Board member Switzer moved to give the Sanitation items the same
priority ratings as the City Manager, Board member Sims seconded,
and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the City Engineer /Utilities Director
requested a computer with the necessary accessories and he agreed
with the need but gave the mobile phone a #3 as he did with the one
requested by the Public Works Director.
Board member Switzer moved to give the Utility Administration items
�✓ the same priority ratings as the City Manager, Board member Sims
seconded, and approval was unanimous.
City Manager Shapiro said the Wastewater Department items were the
final projects to discuss. He said the rehabilitation to Lift
Station 1 would include work on pumps, pipe, etc. He said the hand
rails for Plant 1 were an OSHA requirement and the irrigation
system was required by the St. Johns Water River Management
District. City Manager Shapiro said most of the items listed were
mandatory on Pages 28 -31. Board member Sims agreed and said they
were required by either demand created by growth or Department of
Environmental Regulation.
Chairman Swickerath asked City Manager Shapiro if he was
comfortable with the timetables presented and City Manager Shapiro
said he was. Chairman Swickerath asked why Project Nos. 21 and 22
could be put off until later in the plan and Board member Sims said
because the rooftops would not be there until then.
City Manager Shapiro explained that the items on Pages 31 -33 were
given a #1 priority rating only if they had something to do with
safety or expansion, otherwise there were no funds.
Board member Sims moved to give the Wastewater Department items the
same priority ratings as the City Manager, Board member Shiver
seconded, and approval was unanimous.
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City Manager Shapiro thanked the Board for its time and input.
Chairman Swickerath and Board member Switzer thanked the City
Manager for doing such a good job.
Board member Shiver moved to ajourn, Board member Sims seconded,
and approval was unanimous.
AJOURNMENT: 10:45 p.m.
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