HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 09-10-1991 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1991
CALL TO ORDER: 7:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Vice Chairman Shiver; Planning and Zoning
Commission members Carroll, Weeks, and Bond;
Alternates Rhodus and Bateman; Director of
Administrative Services Beamer, Director of
Planning Behrens, and Deputy Clerk Resnik.
ABSENT: Chairman Sims and Planning and Zoning Commission
members Swickerath and Switzer.
CONSENT AGENDA
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes of August 13, 1991
Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll moved to approve the
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting minutes of August 13, 1991,
Alternate member Rhodus seconded, and approval was unanimous.
NEW BUSINESS
Twin Lake Forest Addition - Preliminary Subdivision Plans
Director of Planning Behrens read his staff report in its entirety.
He explained that staff was in agreement with the developer's
request for a waiver on the maximum amount of feet allowed between
intersections because -with this subdivision representing infill
development, it was harder to accomplish this requirement.
Director Behrens said staff was satisfied with the two access
points to the subdivision and did not feel the added length between
intersections would cause a problem in this particular case.
Director of Planning Behrens pointed out that Michael Todd, the
project engineer, was in the audience if the Board had any
questions. Vice Chairman Shiver opened the public hearing. There
were no public comments. Vice Chairman Shiver then closed the
public hearing and opened the discussion for the Commission
members. He asked what the distance was between fire hydrants and
Mr. Todd said 500 feet. Director Behrens said that Capt.
Coschignano of the Fire Department had reviewed and approved the
plan for that purpose.
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Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll asked what the
purpose was for the five foot easement on Lot 20. Mr. Todd said he
was unsure but that it may be a side yard utility easement. There
was some discussion on the 10 foot easement on Lots 17 and 18 and
the fact that there was not an easement on Lot 21.
Commission member Carroll moved to recommend approval of the Twin
Lake Forest Addition Preliminary Plan pending clarification of the
five foot easement on Lot 20 at Final Engineering, Commission
member Weeks seconded, and approval was unanimous.
OLD BUSINESS
1991 City of Ocoee Comprehensive Plan Goals, Objectives, and
Policies and Supporting Data (Draft)
Administrative Services Director Beamer reminded the Planning and
Zoning Commission of the June 18, 1991 Joint Workshop that they had
with the City Commission to discuss the major issues of the State's
Objections, Recommendations, and Comments (ORC) Report. Director
Beamer said staff has since incorporated all the changes mentioned
in the ORC Report and was now ready to present the Comprehensive
Plan with these changes to the Planning and Zoning Commission as
the Local Planning Agency (LPA) for its recommendation for
approval. She said the Plan will be presented to the City
Commission on September 18 for formal adoption and then sent on to
the State. Director Beamer said staff wants to include any
comments that the Planning and Zoning Commission members or public
may have when it goes before the City Commission.
Administrative Services Director Beamer said the City is trying to
get the plan in compliance by adding the specificity that the State
required but that they tried not to change the overall direction of
the Plan while incorporating those changes.
Director Beamer then reviewed the changes. She said the City of
Ocoee is in the process of trying to achieve an "Urbanized" status
rather than the "Urban" status it now has with the State. Director
Beamer explained that this would help the City better meet Level of
Service (LOS) standards for transportation. She said the City
would be making application for the change in status to the Florida
Department of Transportation by November.
Administrative Services Director Beamer said another change that
the City Commission wanted to incorporate was to limit trip
generators at intersections on future development. The new
language would specify that only two quadrants (corners) of an
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intersection could be developed as gas stations or other
development that creates considerable traffic trips. She said the
new policy was outlined in Section 1 of the Plan, on Page 52
(Policy 6.8). It was explained that this was also being done to
help with LOS requirements.
Administrative Services Director Beamer said concurrency management
will also help curb uses on future development of land because the
LOS standards set must always be adhered to. Planning and Zoning
Commission member Bond asked why gasoline stations were
specifically denoted since there were other types of businesses
such as fast food restaurants that she felt generated even more
traffic. Director of Planning Behrens said the City Commission had
strong feelings about more than two gasoline stations at an
intersection and that tonight was the first time he had heard fast
food establishments mentioned. He said that could be added if the
City so desired. Planning and Zoning Commission member Bond said
she was not asking to have fast food restaurants added since she
did not believe that there should be any limiting at all, but was
merely curious as to why gasoline stations were the only businesses
outlined.
Director Beamer also noted that there were several maps still in
the process of being developed when the Plan last came before the
Boards. She pointed out that there was now an Existing Land Use
Map, a Future Land Use Map, Existing and Projected Water Lines Map,
and Existing and Projected Wastewater Lines Map for them to review.
Administrative Services Director Beamer then asked the Planning and
Zoning Commission members to turn to Section 12 in the Plan. She
said the Existing Land Use classifications were based upon the
current use of the property and that vacant land was either
classified as committed, meaning there was development approval on
the land, or undeveloped. On the Future Land Use she explained
that staff had incorporated wetland areas and "cones of influence ",
designated areas around well sites where no development can take
place. Director Beamer said this is detailed in Section 1, Page
49, Policy 4.10.
Administrative Services Director Beamer said that Section 1, Page
43, Policy 1.11 depicts the general land use categories as needed.
In reference to the fourth item under Future Land Use on the
summary matrix, Director Beamer said it was addressed in Section 1,
Page 19.
The fifth item under Future Land Use dealt with how the City would
control urban sprawl. Director Beamer said staff had provided that
information in Section 1, Page 46 as Policy 2.9.
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The State also asked the City to describe building setback
limitations for protection of flood plain and wetlands. Director
Beamer said this was incorporated in Section 1, Page 48, as Policy
4.3.
Administrative Services Director Beamer outlined the rest of the
items listed under Future Land Use that the State had commented on
in the ORC Report and explained where they could be found in the
Plan:
DCA Comment City's Response (Location in Plan)
Preparation of Section 1, Page 20
drainage basin plans
Low density residential Section 1, Page 41 -42, Policy 1.2
land use is shown within
wetlands and flood plains.
Develop policy to protect
wetlands and flood plains
from development
Annexation policy should Section 1, Page 45, Policy 2.5
be more specific (Staff has now added in the
technical requirement of state law
based on concurrency - the ability
to support that land use.)
Buffer zones for protection Section 1, Page 50, Policy 6.1
of residential areas are not
specific
TRAFFIC CIRCULATION
Revise LOS standards to Section 2, Page 44, Policy 6.4
LOS C for principal (This is also where the City's
arterials and LOS D for application for being designated
minor arterials and local an "urbanized" area fits in.)
roads
Building setbacks and Section 2, Page 42, Policy 3.2
right -of -way and 3.4. The right -of -way
requirements must be requirement for arterials was
included in policies. changed from 150 to 130 feet.
Policy required to Section 2, Page 40.
control access to
roadways.
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SANITARY SEWER
Define LOS for Section 4, Pages 6 and 7.
service area.
Must include analysis This is discussed on Page 18 of
of existing and Section 4 but the best discussion
projected capacity is under the Conservation Element.
based on soils survey
for limitation on use
of septic tanks.
Requirement for a policy Section 1, Page 46, Policy 2.9.
to address failing
septic tanks or limit
areas for new septic
tanks.
DRAINAGE
Define LOS standards. Section 4, Page 18. These have been
incorporated based upon the 25 year,
24 -hour storm event. It has also
been incorporated on Page 20 in
Policy 1.3 and 1.4.
Inventory of all The City did not originally include
existing drainage this in the Plan because we did not
facilities not included. have it. Page 20, Objective #2,
details when the City plans to
complete the basin studies.
POTABLE WATER
Requirement for policy Section 4, Page 18, Policy 2.18.
to implement water This shows the inclusion of water
conservation devices. conservation and it is also
covered in the Conservation Element.
Define LOS standard. The City did not have this
information when the Plan was first
presented to the State but that
information can now be found in
Section 4, Page 5 (Derivation) and
Page 16, Policy 1.2.1.
Nifty
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CONSERVATION
Define timeframe for Section 5, Page 41, Objective #9.
adoption of hazardous ( Timeframe for coordinating with
waste program. Orange County.)
Define type and extent This is as discussed before in an
of buffers for protection earlier element, Page 38, Policy 6.2
of endangered and rare
species.
Define how the City will Section 5, Page 29. (Discussion of
protect water resources. adoption of revised Land Development
Regulations.)
Describe timeframe and Section 5, Page 36, Policy 2.4.
procedures to limit
septic tanks in
developments and
redevelopments in flood
plains, wetland areas
adjacent to lakes and
in areas with soils
unsuitable for septic
tanks.
OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
Define open space Page 25, Policy 1.3.1 (Inclusion of
requirements for land 5% open space in Land Development
development regulations. Regulations as a minimum in all
development projects.)
Administrative Services Director Beamer said the only other thing
she wanted to mention was about the Capital Improvements Element
(Section 8). Director Beamer said that there were not necessarily
any major changes, but that a great deal of information had been
added, especially regarding funding. Director Beamer mentioned the
various impact fees that would be utilized to make the improvements
necessary to keep up the required Levels of Service. She also
mentioned that the City would be adopting an Interim Service Fee to
be collected at the time of Certificate of Occupancy. Director
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Beamer said that the fee was being created to cover the cost of
services that were provided by the City to newly developed land
that was developed after the tax rolls had closed for the year, so
that there would be a structure in place to ensure that the City
had the funds to provide the necessary services before the property
was put on the tax rolls at its newly assessed value.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Bond asked what other cities
had established interim service fees. Director Beamer said that
Oakland Park in South Florida had such a fee.
Vice Chairman Shiver opened the public hearing on the Comprehensive
Plan. R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Boulevard, asked if every
home in Ocoee would have to tie into the sewer system if a sewer
line was installed near enough to a subdivision that was already on
septic tanks. Mr. Mohnacky said he was specifically interested in
Forest Oaks where he lived. He wanted clarification on whether
there had to be a problem with a septic tank or whether the City
could require a home or entire subdivision to hook up to the City's
sewer system once a sewer line was installed in an area.
1119 4111, Administrative Services Director Beamer said for new development,
when capacity is available, homes must be connected to the sewer
system and that the existing homes on septic tank will not be
required to change over to the sewer system unless their septic
tanks fail.
Louis L. Roeder, President of Phoenix Development, 2001 Mercy
Drive, Orlando, said he was very impressed with the overall
Comprehensive Plan document and that a lot of work had gone into
it. As a developer, Mr. Roeder wanted clarification on some of the
issues. He asked about the buffer zones on Page 2 of the Future
Land Use Element and wanted to know if a parcel of residential land
abutted a parcel of commercial land, if the buffer mentioned was 25
feet for each property, or 25 feet total. Director of Planning
Behrens said the 25 foot buffer would be required of the non-
residential parcel, to buffer that from the residential, but that
there were no requirements for the residential parcel for that
buffer.
Mr. Roeder asked about the Level of Service for sewer and water and
said that he noticed that for water it was 300 gallons but for
sewer it was only 270 gallons. He said he thought they were
usually the same. Ken Hooper of PEC replied that they are usually
the same but that they used those particular figures because those
were the figures they got through the various computations and they
wanted to have provable figures if the state asked them to back
them up.
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Mr. Roeder asked for a definition of open space for the 5%
requirement that Director Beamer had mentioned earlier. He
specifically asked what part of a typical single family lot would
be considered open space and what would not. He also wanted to
know why the City was requiring this since it already had a
recreational impact fee.
Administrative Services Director Beamer said that the Land
Development Regulations would incorporate a definition of open
space and explain the policy. Director of Planning Behrens
referred to the Recreation and Open Space Element, Section 6, Page
11, for the definition. Vice Chairman Shiver asked if a sidewalk
would be included as open space. Mr. Roeder said he felt that the
requirement was overly restrictive if it did not allow for
retention ponds, rights -of -way, etc. to be classified as open
space. He said the City with this policy is making single family
development very cost prohibitive.
Mr. Roeder questioned the Future Land Use Map, specifically in
reference to their property on Maguire Road, and wanted to point
out that the five acres north of the proposed realignment of Moore
,, Road was shown as residential although that conflicted with the
plans that were approved in 1988. Mr. Roeder handed out a map
showing their existing approved land use and said it showed
commercial down to Moore Road. Mr. Roeder said he was concerned
with the Future Land Use Map as it was shown and his concern was
specifically with the commercial acreage. He said he had been
assured by the City that there would be no more property zoned
commercial south of the Turnpike and east of Maguire Road. He also
said the proposed realignment of Moore Road leaves roughly five
acres north of the road and he has been told by the City that if
the Maguire Road Corporation ends up with this land, it can not be
used as commercial. Mr. Roeder said the Maguire Road Corporation
thinks it should be changed to show single family use rather than
commercial.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Bond asked Administrative
Services Director Beamer and Director of Planning Behrens why it
was shown as commercial. Director Behrens said that staff believes
the realignment of Moore Road is necessary and that the map is not
site specific but that staff is indicating that commercial has been
approved in that area.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll said that the City
had a right to realign Moore Road if it made sense for good
planning. Mr. Roeder said he did not have a problem with
realigning the road, just that they did not want it to show
commercial on that five acres north of Moore Road. Mr. Roeder
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again emphasized that he had a letter from the City assuring that
there would be no more property zoned commercial south of the
Turnpike and east of Maguire Road. He handed out a letter signed
by the City Manager and indicated that this was the letter he was
referring to.
Alternate member Bateman said it was true that landowners or
developers buy and sell land based on the City's colored map so he
agreed with Mr. Roeder that if the map was approved, it would
indicate that the City would approve commercial for that property.
Director of Planning Behrens said this was really an issue between
two developers. Director Behrens said staff believes it should be
commercial at the corner. He said, in fact, that if Mr. Roeder's
firm ends up with this five acre piece that the two developers are
arguing over, he will have to do a Comp Plan Amendment to allow for
commercial to go there. Mr. Roeder said they would not have to do
a Comp Plan Amendment if they annexed it into the existing PUD as
long as the overall commercial acreage does not change (in number
of acres already approved). Director Behrens said he would check
, with the City Attorney to find out if a Comp Plan Amendment would
still be necessary.
Vice Chairman Shiver asked if the City elects to sell land
classified as governmental, would a Comp Plan Amendment be
necessary. Director Beamer said it would.
Dr. James Ferdinand, 2001 Mercy Drive, one of the owners of the
Plantation Grove PUD, said he felt Director Behrens' comment was
saying to the Planning and Zoning Commission that if they changed
the map they would be conceeding something to the developer and he
does not believe that to be the case. Dr. Ferdinand said the City
should have clarified the use of this land a long time ago and that
they were not asking for any concessions.
Director Behrens said the City had not gone against any agreement
and that no additional commercial had been approved south of the
Turnpike and east of Maguire. He stressed again that the Future
Land Use Map was not a site specific map.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll asked why the Future
Land Use Map could not be changed to designate the five acres as
residential but keep the realignment as is. Administrative
Services Director Beamer said from a Planning standpoint, Moore
Road should be realigned and then the five acres left north of
Moore Road would not be adequate for a residential site.