HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 10-08-1991 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
14 rrr HELD ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8, 1991
CALL TO ORDER: 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Planning and Zoning Commission members Swickerath,
Carroll, Switzer, and Weeks; Alternate member
Bateman; Director of Planning Behrens, Planning
Consultant LaRue, and Deputy Clerk Resnik.
ABSENT: Chairman Sims, Vice Chairman Shiver, Planning and
Zoning Commission member Bond and Alternate member
Rhodus.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Swickerath presided over the
meeting as Chairman since neither the Chairman nor the Vice Chairman
were in attendance.
CONSENT AGENDA
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes of September 10, 1991
fir• Chairman Swickerath recommended that the approval of the September 10,
1991 minutes be postponed since there were only three members present
who were at the September meeting. He felt that there should be a
quorum of members present who were at the September meeting before
voting on those minutes and the other members concurred.
NEW BUSINESS
Case No. 1- 9R- 91:AUTO AUCTION, Applicant: Florida Auto Auction, Inc.
Director of Planning Behrens read the staff report in its entirety.
Ludwig Spiessl, 5150 S. Florida Avenue, Lakeland, representing the
petitioner, said the Florida Auto Auction was seeking the rezoning of
the 30 acres to allow for additional parking of auction vehicles.
Rob McKey, 1110 Wineberry Court, Ocoee, was interested if there were
any trees on the site that would have to be removed for a parking lot
and what conditions the Auto Auction would have to meet concerning
environmental factors. Chairman Swickerath said eventually, if the
Auto Auction was granted the rezoning, it would have to submit plans
for review by the City and obtain a permit from the St. Johns River
Water Management District. Chairman Swickerath explained that those
things would not occur until after a public hearing on the rezoning
was held at the City Commission level and the rezoning was approved.
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Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll asked if this rezoning
request had to be approved by the state with the new Comprehensive
Plan regulations. Director of Planning Behrens said it did not have
to have state approval since it is consistent with the Future Land Use
Map.
R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Boulevard, Ocoee, asked if the Auto
Auction was aware of the new stormwater utility fee and if it realized
how expensive it would be for them if they paved this entire area.
Director of Planning Behrens said that there may be a way around
paving the area. Director Behrens said that staff is looking into
alternative surfaces for parking in the new Land Development
Regulations currently under review. He said the existing Code calls
for a hard, dustless surface but that the new regulations may allow
for more innovative methods to lessen the amount of pavement being
installed.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Switzer said he had visited the
site and that there were no trees but that he was concerned since half
the property was under water with the recent rains. He said he would
rather see a permeable surface be put down similar to the parking at
r the Starke Lake boat ramp so that the water level would not end up
being a problem for drainage.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll moved to accept staff's
recommendation on the rezoning and agreed with staff that it was
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and Planning and Zoning
Commission member Weeks seconded.
Alternate member Bateman said that by approving C -3 zoning, the City
would be granting permission to allow any use that falls under C -3.
He said he had also visited the site and was also concerned with the
water problem. He said the Planning and Zoning Commission should add
to its motion that there be conditions of approval in regards to what
they would allow and how much of a paved surface would be allowed
because of the drainage problem.
Director of Planning Behrens cautioned the Planning and Zoning
Commission that the City can not take part in contract zoning and that
the owner of the property would have to meet all the building
requirements by submitting plans and obtaining permits before anything
could be done on the property. Alternate member Bateman said that
obviously the Planning Director had not studied the property and he
felt strongly that there would be significant problems because of the
amount of water. Alternate member Bateman said it was his opinion
that this was not the right property for parking cars.
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Chairman Swickerath asked Planning and Zoning Commission member
Carroll if he would agree to amend his motion to state that the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval of the rezoning
request as staff has presented it and finds it consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan and encourages the City Commission to permit a
pervious surface to be used in order to protect the drainage in that
area. Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll agreed to the
amended motion and Planning and Zoning Commission Weeks agreed to
second the amended motion. The motion was carried unanimously in
favor.
RECESS: 8:20 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER: 8:30 p.m.
City of Ocoee Land Development Regulations, October 1991 - DRAFT
Director of Planning Behrens indicated that the Planning and Zoning
Commission members had received in their packets a staff report
,.. summarizing the new (first draft) Land Development Regulations. He
said the City Commission had also received copies to review and make
comments. Director Behrens said that this evening, he and Consultant
Jim LaRue would explain some of the changes and how the book is put
together and provide some details on what was added to meet state
requirements under the Comprehensive Plan. He said the Planning and
Zoning Commission will not vote on the new regulations until November.
Director of Planning Behrens said they took the existing Code and
redivided it into new Chapters. He said it is organized differently
for a unified Code that will flow and be more "user friendly ". He
said there are some things that needed to be worked into the Code that
are now required by the state.
Chairman Swickerath asked Director Behrens what he meant by stating
that the staff had made changes. Director Behrens said there were no
substantive changes made, that they were grammatical in nature.
Consultant LaRue recommended that the appendices not be a part of the
official Code that is adopted so that the City will not have to do an
ordinance for every change they make to forms, etc.
Consultant LaRue also explained that the requirements under 9J -24
mainly dealt with adding some required parts such as concurrency and
environmental regulations.
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Director of Planning Behrens said he would discuss the issue of vested
rights at the November meeting. He also pointed out that the
definitions are now all under one chapter rather than scattered
throughout. Director Behrens said several definitions have been
added, mostly to clarify new areas.
Director of Planning Behrens and Consultant LaRue explained that
Chapter 3 was mainly a reiteration of the basic duties of the various
boards and staff members. Planning and Zoning Commission member
Switzer asked if this information was already contained in the
Charter. Consultant LaRue said it is not necessary to repeat this
information here in the Land Development Regulations but they may want
to consider it because it may help to have all the information in one
place so people will not have to go back and refer to the City
Charter.
Director Behrens and Consultant LaRue said that Chapter 4 was for
applications and procedures. Director Behrens said there was a
section on the transfer of development rights which was new. Director
Behrens said Chapter 5 defines the zoning categories. He said Page
rrr 5 -3 described the types of Planned Developments. Director Behrens
said the Traditional Neighborhood District was something new that
staff added as an option. He said Page 5 -6 displayed a use table and
that Pages 5 -15 and 5 -16 showed the uses and where each is permitted
by zoning district.
Consultant LaRue said he would probably suggest to the Planning and
Zoning Commission at its November meeting that the special exceptions
and conditional uses be combined since they are so similar.
Chairman Swickerath asked staff to add the PUD into the Charts in
Chapter 5.
Director of Planning Behrens explained the Traditional Neighborhood
District (TND) as a revival of the concept of development before World
War II. He said a good example of this is the historic district just
north of Lake Eola with narrow streets and a combination of
residential and commercial uses. Director Behrens said both Andres
Duany and Peter Calthorpe had done much to publicize this concept in
the past few years. He said this type of zoning would have to be
limited to larger development areas of at least 40 acres in size. He
said Charleston, South Carolina and Princeton, New Jersey were good
examples of what could be done. Director Behrens said this type of
zoning should not be applied citywide but that staff liked many of the
concepts and that it was similar to the PUD zoning the City currently
r has.
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Director Behrens said Arvida has used some of these concepts in the
Wesmere development such as street trees between the sidewalk and road
to create a canopied look, narrower streets, and buildings closer to
the street.
Director Behrens said he would like the TND to be put in as an option
and to ensure that it is strictly controlled. Chairman Swickerath
asked why the staff felt this category was needed and what it provided
for that the PUD did not allow. Director Behrens said it is possible
that everything under the TND could be done under a PUD district.
Chairman Swickerath said either it will or will not allow for the same
flexibility and he wanted to make sure that if they both allowed for
the same things, that the City did not add an extra zoning category
just to fit in with the latest planning craze.
Alternate member Bateman said he liked the concept of TND because of
what it does to limit or reduce traffic problems.
Consultant LaRue said he would look at Chairman Swickerath's
suggestion about not breaking down the PUD category so much and he
agreed with Chairman Swickerath that it might not be necessary.
Director Behrens said there was also a zoning category titled "Mixed
Use Developments" and he gave the example of the intersection of Clark
and Silver Star Roads where it might be a good idea to allow for a
level of retail with office or residential above.
Director Behrens said staff was providing all these options and that
it was up to the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City
Commission as to which they wanted to include in the new Land
Development Regulations.
Consultant LaRue explained that Chapter 7 outlined environmental
protection, FEMA regulations, and stormwater management.
Director of Planning Behrens said that the current Code calls for 35
foot setbacks from water bodies in single family residential and 100
feet for PUDs. He said staff is recommending 50 feet for all
categories in the new regulations.
Chairman Swickerath said that setback may make it very difficult to
fit a house on a lot. He suggested that more research be done on this
and that it be discussed further at the November meeting.
Consultant LaRue said the Planning and Zoning Commission members will
not see Chapter 8 until the November meeting. He explained that staff
wanted to use the existing sign ordinance with certain amendments
rather than using the new ordinance. He said Chapter 9 dealt with
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concurrency issues and would allow staff to determine whether the
Levels of Service are kept where they should be. He also said vesting
will be discussed in November and how vested rights will affect
concurrency.
Consultant LaRue and Director Behrens said they had tried to fix the
trouble spots and tried to put in some flexibility and incorporate
what was necessary under the Comprehensive Plan requirements.
Consultant LaRue asked that each Planning and Zoning Commission member
make notes of what they want to discuss at the November meeting.
Director of Planning Behrens said the definitions on Page 2 -8 (types
of residential facilities) were included as part of the state's
requirements. He said they could refer to the zoning charts to see
where the various facilities are permitted.
Director Behrens said no formal review of the Land Development
Regulations will be done by the state but that someone could challenge
them and then the state would do a review. Consultant LaRue added
that the most important thing is to give the City of Ocoee something
that is useable.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Switzer asked why the sign
chapter was so large. Consultant LaRue said the new sign ordinance
included in this book is too much for what Ocoee needs and that staff
wants instead to go with the existing ordinance with some changes.
Director Behrens said staff has been collecting information and making
notes on proposed changes and additions for the past two to three
years. He said the attorneys had suggested that the adult
entertainment use be changed from conditional use under C -1 and C -2
to a conditional use under C -3. He also said the attorneys had
suggested that a note appear on each plat regarding concurrency.
Director Behrens said that Ellen King has a copy of the existing Land
Development Regulations with notes of what changes are being proposed.
He encouraged the Planning and Zoning Commission members to stop by
the office and review them. Consultant LaRue offered that they could
also show the changes by underlining additions and striking through
deletions on the new regulations.
Chairman Swickerath asked why staff could not photocopy the marked up
existing regulations and have the Planning and Zoning Commission
review it rather than giving them something that makes it impossible
to determine what has been added, changed, and deleted. Chairman
Swickerath also said that the Planning and Zoning Commission bylaws
Now should be added to these new regulations.
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OTHER BUSINESS
Chairman Swickerath reminded the Planning and Zoning Commission
members that there was a discussion earlier in the meeting regarding
looking into other options besides paving for parking areas. He asked
if anyone wanted to make a motion to have staff pursue this. Director
of Planning Behrens and Consultant LaRue said they will be bringing
that to the Planning and Zoning Commission in November as part of this
Land Development Code.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:30 p.m.
Planning and Zoning Commission member Carroll moved to adjourn the
meeting, Planning and Zoning Commission member Switzer seconded, and
approval was unanimous.
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