HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-09-1993 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 1993
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CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Switzer at 7:30 p.m. followed by a
moment of silent meditation and the pledge of allegiance.
The determination of a quorum was made.
PRESENT: Acting Chairman Switzer, Members Jones, Landefeld, Miller, Rhodus, Alternate
McKey, Planning Director Wagner, Economic Development Coordinator Behrens,
Deputy Clerk King, and Clerk/Stenographer Lewis.
ABSENT: Members: Swickerath, Bond, and Alternate Draia.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Minutes of the Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of October 12, 1993.
Member Landefeld, seconded by Member Miller, moved to ap i rove the Minutes as s resented.
The motion carried 5 -0.
NEW BUSINESS:
SHOAL CREEK (Public Hearing)
% ow Shoal Creek is a proposed 35.11 acre single family subdivision located south of White Road,
west of California Avenue. The project consists of 86 lots at a gross density of 2.45 D.U. /Acre.
Zoning is R1 -AA which requires a minimum 9,000 s.f. lot area with a minimum 75 foot
frontage.
Planning Director Wagner presented a Revised Staff Report rationale on the Shoal Creek
Preliminary Subdivision Plans of October 22, 1993 subject to the following three waivers:
1. Section 6 -2 (A) (5) - Waiver from the requirement to pave California Avenue, an existing
dirt street that abuts the project.
2. Section 7 -2 (B) (3) - Waiver from the requirement that a 50 foot environmentally
sensitive lands boundary be provided adjoining the FEMA 100 Year Floodplain area.
3. Section 7 -4 (B) (3) - Waiver of the required 75 foot buffer area adjoining a Jurisdictional
Wetlands Area in favor of a 25 foot buffer.
The first waiver was agreed to by the DRC after careful review of the surrounding street
network in the vicinity of the Project. Staff reviewed the potential need for the paving and
extension of California Avenue as a north -south connection to S.R. 50. Due to poor intersection
geometry at White Road and the potential adverse impact to a large portion of wetlands, staff
determined that Montgomery Avenue was the better alternative for extension of this collector
roadway. Given that Montgomery Avenue is already paved to Geneva Street, and that California
Avenue only serves a limited number of larger Orange County parcels, the DRC was agreeable
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to the waiver because improvement of this roadway would be of virtually no direct benefit to
the proposed project. Additionally, the developer has worked closely with the staff to vacate
unnecessary rights -of -way while, at the same time, creating an internal roadway system which
will ensure adequate east -west access within the Project area.
The second waiver was recommended for approval based upon agreement by the developer to
preserve a substantial portion of the upland wooded area adjoining the wetlands on site. The
published 100 -Year FEMA floodplain line depicted on the Plan was obviously established
incorrectly since it crosses numerous topographic lines. Based upon a prior floodplain study,
the developer believes the 100 -Year flood boundary to be at an elevation of approximately 102
feet. This elevation largely corresponds to the wetland line as established by St. Johns River
Water Management District ( SJRWMD) and Army Corps of Engineers (ACOE). Staff,
however, has conditioned Final Plans and lot layouts on the results of a new floodplain study
to be undertaken by the developer's engineer. Based upon the results of this analysis, the
FEMA map will be amended accordingly. Precise stormwater calculations may then be
developed to ensure that the development is adequately protected from flooding and that no
adverse impacts are generated by the Project. Additionally, after review of the existing
topography of the site, together with an on -site inspection, staff believes that the developer has
proposed to substantially save those wooded lands which could be construed as environmentally
sensitive. All other lands which might fall within the 50 foot buffer area are remnant orange
groves which provide no particular environmental value.
The third waiver was recommended by the DRC based largely on the rationale cited for the 100 -
Year floodplain waiver. The developer has largely preserved those lands adjoining the wetland
which could be constructed as environmentally significant. Additionally, preservation of a 25
foot buffer is cited as a policy within the Comprehensive Plan. Staff believes that this is a more
prudent buffer based upon precedents established by SJRWMD and ACOE.
Planning Director Wagner explained that the City through a number of plan iterations and
reviews, worked with the developer to create a workable project that substantially complies with
the spirit and intent of the Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Code. An added benefit
of the Plan will be the provision of a dual left turn lane on White Road which will not only
serve this project but the residents of Sleepy Harbour and Lake Shore Gardens as well. Almost
1.7 acres of wooded uplands will be preserved for passive recreation, and all existing wetlands
will be preserved within perpetual conservation easements. The preservation of this land will
serve as a starting point for the establishment of a natural greenway to be augmented by each
future development situated along this drainage corridor.
After no further comments by staff, the public hearing was opened.
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Ray Bradick, project engineer, Bowyer- Singleton & Associates, Inc., said the staff and
developer had gone through several processes to come together with a plan that performs the
need and meets the City criteria. The staff worked long and hard to come up with a plan,
adequately preserving the aesthetic of the property as well as build a quality subdivision that
would make the City proud. The wetland line as far as the board is concerned is well up land
of extremely wooded areas. It is not jurisdictional but the staff and engineer felt that in the end,
by preserving it, it would be an asset to the community to provide a walk trail, park area, as
well as keeping nature areas so the people can enjoy the neighborhood. Bowyer Singleton &
Associates believes with confidence that the 100 Year Flood Study will find that the flood
elevation will be at an elevation of approximately 102 ft. which is not depicted by the FEMA
lines. The FEMA lines cut right through the hill and groves and has not been wet in many
years. In most cases, the developer will provide in excess of the 50' buffer for the 100 Year
Flood Plan. East /West access is being provided to California Avenue and depending upon the
future of a road network system, it may be extended easterly to tie into Montgomery Avenue.
The California Avenue waiver is basically a road that backs up to houses and is really not an
access to anything except to a small enclave of the County, dependant upon what happens to the
Montgomery realignment, this road may not exist ten years from now and may be vacated due
to the alignment problem.
Mr. Bradick said the current residents on California Avenue will have access through various
avenues. These people will have total use of what is existing.
Planning Director Wagner commented that all of the unnecessary rights -of -way will be vacated
completely where they are adjoined. The State law essentially requires that when there is a
street vacation the land adjoining on either side of the property will go to the adjoining property.
In this case the developer will take advantage of the 30' strip where it is adjoining an existing
subdivision and those people will gain 30'.
Mrs. Yvonne Allen, 501 Bernadino Drive, asked at what point will the 30' of Jackson Street
become a part of her property and if it included the survey. She also expressed concern about
the wetlands. Planning Director Wagner said, once the plans are approved the developer will
proceed through a formal street vacation process and the interested parties will be notified of the
action. Once the City Commission takes that action, there will be a couple of public hearings.
Following the hearings Mrs. Allen would complete a form with the County formally transferring
the property. Only if Mrs. Allen was selling the property would there be a need for a survey.
It would be necessary, however, to complete forms concerning the 30' affecting property taxes.
Chairman Switzer assured Mrs. Allen that she would be notified as a property owner of
everything throughout the process.
Mrs. Nancy Barsi, 509 Bernadino Drive, expressed concern about flood plans to the area.
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Project Engineer Bradick said that the final engineering plan of the City, specifically the 100
Year Flood Plain, will protect this area with retention ponds to collect the run off storing excess
water, discharging it after a storm and allowing it to bleed off slowly.
Ms. Maggie Kern, 501 Bernadino Drive, asked about the paving of California Avenue, the
creation of a recreation park area, and the congestion of parking in the event of an emergency
situation requiring assistance. Ms. Kern said there are a lot of children in the area and asked
if security will be provided during development, expressing concern that vandalism is high after
workmen leave the job site. Project Engineer Bradick said that someone is around all the time
during development, but 24 hour security guards are not provided.
Mr. R. P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Blvd., expressed his concern of emergency vehicle
access and also of the wetlands. Planning Director Wagner said that the developers had largely
preserved the wooded area that is adjoining the actual wetlands, protecting the environmentally
sensitive areas.
After no further comments the public hearing was closed and the discussion was brought to the
table.
Chairman Switzer asked why the City was paying, instead of the developer, for the upsizing
•► of waterlines from 8" to 12" on streets "A" and "C ". Mr. Wagner said that it was a request
by the City to upsize the line for future use. Mr. Bradick stated that the philosophy behind the
upsizing is that their development needs an 8" line to provide fire flows and domestic needs.
The City in their Master Plan for future development is deemed in the City's best interest to
upsize that line for future use. The developer's feeling was that there will be another developer
down the road that is going to take advantage of that 12" line, then the City ought to go back
to that developer and inform him that it is a part of his connection cost and should pay the cost
of the upsize. The developer of Shoal Creek does not need the 12" line. Mr. Switzer said that
he would mention this at the City Commission Public Hearing, and expressed his disapproval
with the philosophy. Both, Chairman Switzer and Member Jones, pointed out the need of a
formal adoption of the 100 Year Flood Plain line. Planning Director Wagner said there is a
difference between what the Comprehensive Plan of the City calls for as a policy in an
environmental matter.
Member Landefeld seconded b Member Jones moved to a . . roved the Preliminar
Subdivision Plans of Shoal Creek, subject to waivers 1, 2, and 3, the waterline upsize brought
to the attention of the City Commission for further consideration. The motion carried 5 -0.
OLD BUSINESS
None
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OTHER BUSINESS
None
COMMENTS
PLANNING DIRECTOR WAGNER:
None
MEMBERS:
MEMBER MILLER:
Member Miller asked for a review of the request for special exception by St. Paul's
Presbyterian Church for a school in R -3 zone, saying it had been reviewed and recommended
to the City Commission to grant special exception to allow a permanent school use in an R -3
zone, subject to the school enrollment not exceeding a total of 194 part-time students, and all
school activities conducted to end at a certain time. Ms. Miller expressed disapproval of the
City Manager's presentation, giving the DRC recommendation instead of the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommendation. The DRC recommendation had a stipulation that a special
exception be granted with the church having board members on the school board. The DRC had
no business telling the church and school what to do, and the City should not open Pandora's
Box that would not keep with the religious or ministerial duties of the church. Jazzercize is
carried on and is advertised at the Ocoee Methodist Church and that is a commercial enterprise
in an R -1 -A zoning. Member Miller had a real problem with the City Commission possibly
not granting a special exception for a school which is pending their non - profit status. Both,
Member Miller and Chairman Switzer, said they were available to attend the next City
Commission meeting to address this issue.
Chairman Switzer said that the real issue was brought to a head by Commissioner Johnson
when he said this was brought up a year ago in which to become non - profit and to find a school
home, and it was the basis for the approval in which the people are now enjoying, and his
question is why they have not found a new school location and that no one in attendance at the
meeting could answer. The City Commission meeting was continued in the hopes that during
the next meeting someone from the principle groups would provide the answers to his question.
Chairman Switzer said that he would be happy to convey the feeling of the Planning and
Zoning Board. Ms. Miller said she had a problem with that the City Commission is more
concerned with setting a precedent than getting a determination of what is a ministerial duty,
pointing out that if you are going to do for one you should do for the other.
CITIZENS:
Citizen Mohnacky asked if being next to a residential area the land use right is legal.
Chairman Switzer said he did not know if the City had the right to tell the Church, coming into
play the Constitution of the United States of America, what they could do, therein, the
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separation of Church and State, expressing concern from the Planning and Zoning Board of it
flying in the face of the Constitution.
ALTERNATE MCKEY:
Alternate McKey said he would like to commend the Womans Club in arranging involvement
in the public process of the election. Mr. McKey asked about enclaves and expressed his
concern over City and County jurisdiction. Planning Director Wagner said that the City and
County are dealing with a lawsuit regarding annexations and that this also concerned enclaves,
and that he is hopeful that once the suit is settled that there are new provisions in the ELMS
(Environmental Land Management Study) Legislation that will allow the cities and counties to
agree upon taking some of the enclaves, and pointing out that it really becomes a dollars and
cents matter for the City as to whether or not they want to take on that responsibility. Enclaves
will undoubtedly come into the City as developers need water and sewer for the undeveloped
areas. The developed enclaves are another larger issue.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
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