HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-12-1999 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING HELD TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1999
Acting as Local Planning Agency
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Switzer at 7:34 p.m. followed by a
moment of silent meditation and the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. A quorum was
declared present.
PRESENT: Chairman Switzer, Vice Chairman Bond, Members Christoefl, Hopkins,
Landefeld, and Rhodus and Alternate Member McKey. Also present
were City Manager Shapiro, Planning Director Wagner, Assistant City
Attorney Formella and Deputy City Clerk Green.
ABSENT: Member Miller and Alternate Member Golden.
CONSENT AGENDA
The consent agenda consisted of approval of item A:
A. Minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting held on
Tuesday, December 8, 1998.
Member Landefeld, seconded by Vice Chairman Bond, moved to approve the
consent agenda as presented. Motion carried 6 -0.
NEW BUSINESS
DEVON COVE JOINT PLANNING AREA AGREEMENT AMENDMENT - PUBLIC HEARING
CASE No. JPA -98 -002
Planning Director Wagner presented the staff report for the proposed amendment to
the Joint Planning Area Agreement to add a 4.5 acre parcel located approximately 150
feet southwest of the intersection of Prairie Lake Boulevard and Log Run Court. He
said the owner wished to develop the parcel with more urban density than the one unit
per acre to which he is limited in the County, and had requested this change to permit
access to Prairie Lake Boulevard and to secure City water. He explained that this
petition covers the amendment to the JPA Agreement only, including corresponding
language changes to the text of the document which relate to both the Clarcona and
Gotha Rural Settlement Areas. Mr. Wagner emphasized that separate annexation,
rezoning and subdivision reviews would be needed to permit development of the
property. He said the Orange County Board of County Commissioners had
unanimously recommended approval of the amendment on January 5, 1999, and he
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In response to a question from Chairman Switzer about the affect of this amendment on
oir the Gotha area, Mr. Wagner said the it would allow excursion into the area if jointly
agreed upon by the County and the City.
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. R. P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Boulevard, asked how the property would be
accessed, and Mr. Wagner explained it to Mr. Mohnacky's satisfaction.
The public hearing was closed.
Following brief discussion, Member Landefeld, seconded by Vice Chairman
Bond, moved (as had been recommended by Staff) to recommend approval of the
Devon Cove Joint Planning Area Agreement Amendment in Case No. JPA -98 -002,
changing the boundaries of the Joint Planning Area and adding a 4.5 acre parcel located
approximately 150 feet southwest of the intersection of Prairie Lake Boulevard and Log
Run Court to the JPA Land Use Map with an initial designation of Low Density
Residential. Motion carried 6 -0.
AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE V OF THE OCOEE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVIDING
FOR REGULATION OF BORROW PITS - PUBLIC HEARING
Planning Director Wagner presented the staff report for the proposed ordinance
amending the Land Development Code to permit Borrow Pits only within the I -2
General Industrial District as a Special Exception. He said there had been recent
inquiries from the contractors who need borrow areas for fill as a result of the
*taw construction of the Western Beltway. As Ocoee's Code did not address them, Staff had
researched borrow pit regulation in other communities and had decided the simplest
way to control borrow pits was to place them in a high intensity zone to keep all the
truck traffic, dust, noise, etc., within a suitable area. He said requiring the application
for Special Exception would permit the City to review such uses on a case -by -case basis
and prescribe detailed conditions to be followed as appropriate. Mr. Wagner said
there is very limited I -2 zoning in the City, possibly a couple of hundred acres of prime
land, so the likelihood of any very large borrow pits is fairly remote.
In describing a typical borrow pit, Mr. Wagner said they may be 30 to 40 feet deep
with severe side slopes and the depth and slope contribute to water quality problems
and safety issues when they become filled with groundwater.
In lengthy discussion about borrow pits issues, members expressed concern about
safety, water quality, effects on natural resources, fencing of the ponds, visual
obtrusiveness, reduction of the tax base by taking land out of productive use, and the
long term maintenance of the facilities related to stormwater management.
Vice Chairman Bond said the industrial park was short on retention areas and asked if
there is any way a borrow pit could be modified to help with water retention in the
Story Road area. Mr. Wagner said it would have to be designed for that purpose, and
available land is probably half a mile north of the Story Road area. He said drainage
ditches would have to be retrofitted to make it work, and he thought it would be
*taw difficult.
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In addressing members' concerns, Mr. Wagner reviewed the Special Exception
application process and how it could protect the City's interests. He noted, for
example, that if there was a safety hazard a fence could be required as part of the
conditions for approval of the Special Exception.
In response to a question from Member Christoefl, Mr. Wagner said the issue of
borrow pits is more a legal issue than a planning issue. Assistant City Attorney
Formella said reasonable conditions can be set, and zoning authority can be exercised
to designate the areas that would be appropriate, but the City cannot prohibit borrow
pits.
The public hearing was opened.
Ms. Rosemarie Morganto, 11012 Groveshire Court, said she was very much opposed
to borrow pits and wished to prohibit them entirely.
Mr. R. P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Boulevard, suggested removing sand from
lakes such as Hackney Prairie Lake to reduce the possibility of flooding.
The public hearing was closed.
In response to questions by Member Christoefl, Mr. Wagner explained there are many
uses that are fairly hazardous, noxious and noisy. He said if a City tried to regulate
each one, the ordinance would be quite large. Because of the limited available land
area and because of its value, Staff thinks requests for borrow pits will be reduced and
that is why the ordinance was not written in great detail. In the year it will take to
Sir update the Land Development Code, the consultant can be asked to add to that portion
of the Code if there are any problems with it.
Chairman Switzer asked if there had been any experience on the environmental impact
of borrow pits. City Manager Shapiro advised that once a borrow pit is dug, it serves
very little purpose. He said it is environmentally damaging from the standpoint of
ecology. Instead of a little lake or a drainage area as part of a development, the borrow
pit would become a 30- to 40- acre hole that is 40 to 50 feet deep that has no springs,
wildlife, fish, or grass.
Mr. Shapiro also said there is also an economic impact associated with borrow pits. He
said I -2 land costs about $100,000 an acre, which makes it cost prohibitive since the
only reason a developer would mine would be to get cheap dirt. At $100,000 an acre
plus expenses for that size, there will probably be no one to buy land in the I -2 area. He
said most of the Beltway is under contract, and probably the land for borrow pits has
been bought. When the bids were going out for sections of the Beltway, the City was
inundated with requests, but no one has talked to the City since.
Vice Chairman Bond said that she understood Universal Studios was looking for a
place for borrow pits. Mr. Wagner said all the trucks going over State Road 50 and
Old Winter Garden Road are from the borrow pits and sand pits in Lake County. The
dirt can be for anything, not just for the Western Beltway.
The public hearing was closed.
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Mr. Switzer asked for assurance that the Planning and Zoning Commission can apply
low restrictions that are legally acceptable. Mr. Wagner said staff would keep the
Planning and Zoning Commission apprised of any developments in this regard if there
are more inquiries.
Acknowledging the need to provide some land area in the City for borrow pits,
members supported incorporating further controls pertaining to them into the update of
the Land Development Code.
As had been recommended by Staff, Chairman Switzer, seconded by Member
Landefeld, moved to recommend approval of the proposed ordinance permitting
Borrow Pits only within the Ocoee I -2 General Industrial District as a Special
Exception. Motion carried 6 -0.
ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION -
PUBLIC HEARING
Planning Director Wagner presented the staff report for the proposed expansion of the
membership and the increase in the geographic diversity of the Planning and Zoning
Commission. He said the ordinance expands the permanent membership by two
members, from seven to nine, and makes a quorum of five. It keeps two alternates,
specifying a junior and senior alternate. It does not identify how geographic diversity
is to be accomplished but more or less states it as a goal. He said the ordinance would
change the Land Development Code, and that was why the Planning and Zoning
Commission was reviewing it. The City Commission is looking for the input of the
Planning and Zoning Commission about its operation.
Chairman Switzer asked each member to comment. Member Christoefl said there
was a need to increase the board in light of City growth. Member Landefeld said he
did not see a need to increase the size. Vice Chairman Bond said she would support a
nine- member board, possibly with no alternates, with diversity occurring as members
are replaced or added. Member Rhodus concurred with Ms. Bond but wanted to do
something to ensure the diversity of the members. Member Hopkins concurred and
suggested that there possibly should be an attendance requirement. Mr. Switzer
concurred with having nine members but not the alternates. He said having nine
members does not increase the work load of staff since packets are currently prepared
for nine people.
The public hearing was opened.
Commissioner Glass, who proposed the increase to nine members on the Planning and
Zoning Commission, expressed his appreciation for having the chance to speak and
explain the basis for the proposed change. The concern that led to his proposal was
that major issues before the Planning and Zoning Commission of a city the size of
Ocoee were sometimes decided by a 3 -2 or 4 -1 vote. He said he believed nine
members for a city of this size would make an optimum board.
Discussion followed regarding geographic diversity.
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Commissioner Parker commended the Planning and Zoning Commission for their
_ good representation and all the work they have done. She said she could support
having nine members and no alternates. She felt expansion of the Planning and Zoning
Commission would draw more involvement from some of the newer areas.
The public hearing was closed.
Chairman Switzer, seconded by Member Christoefl, moved to recommend approval
of the proposed ordinance to expand the Planning and Zoning Commission regular
membership to nine members subject to elimination of all provisions pertaining to the
two alternate members. Motion carried 6 -0.
A member asked if the alternates would automatically become the other members, and
Mr. Switzer said he felt that was a decision only the City Commission could make.
CITY ATTORNEY DISCUSSION OF MEMORANDUM REGARDING CONSTRUCTION OF
EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES
Attorney Formella said Attorney Rosenthal had done his usual thorough job of
preparing a detailed memorandum and had asked her to highlight some of the main
points and to be available for any questions. She presented it in a format different from
the one in the packet. She divided it into provisions with which the School Board needs
to comply and provisions with which the City needs to comply. She said probably the
most important point is that the School Board complies with the State Uniform Building
Code. Otherwise, they are exempted from complying with "building codes,
interpretations, building permits and assessments of fees for building permits,
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ordinances, road closures and impact fees or service availability fees." She said any
approvals or fees typically required of a developer do not and cannot apply to the
School Board.
The School Board is required to share information about their existing and planned
facility and select sites for their facilities that are consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan of the City and the Land Development Regulations (LDR) implementing the plan
but only to the extent that those LDRs are not inconsistent with the state building code
or do not address the subject matter that the state building code covers. When those
caveats are taken into account, City input is limited. The School Board is required to
notify the City at least 60 days before acquisition of a site, and the City has 45 days to
respond to the issue of consistency. Before construction, the School Board is supposed
to request a formal determination from the City, but regardless of City input, there is
no mechanism for the City enforcement. The School Board is not required to get site
plan approval or building permit approval from the City, but there is the avenue for
input. There was a need for the Planning and Zoning Commission to discuss the type
of forum desired for City input. There is no requirement for a public hearing or
official action. A public hearing could be advertised to receive public input.
The School Board might spend funds for things such as roads, sidewalks and
infrastructure, but they are not required to do so. They might request that the local
government construct and maintain sidewalks and bike paths within a two -mile radius
Now of the school. The School Board is required to notify the City of any hazards.
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The City has to respond to the School Board's request for consistency determination
regarding the Comprehensive Plan and to any LDRs that are inconsistent with the State
Building Code within 90 days. If not, the School Board's proposal is deemed
acceptable to the City. The City might spend funds, but is not required to, for roads,
sidewalks and infrastructure. If the School Board decides to spend funds, it has to be
only their pro rata share. We could not ask them to oversize a utility line and bear the
whole cost of it. If the School Board notifies the City of a hazard, the City must
investigate it and respond to the School Board, and if they decide not to correct the
hazard, they have to indemnify the School in case of any problems.
The most important point is the School Board is exempt from all these things that
typically are required of a developer.
Mr. Wagner said this was being brought before the Planning and Zoning Commission
because two new schools will be built in Ocoee, the middle school and an elementary
school at Clarke Road and Silver Star Road. The issue is understanding that even
though the City has been working closely with the School Board, the School Board can
build as they desire. The City was going to have a review and, hopefully, approval of
the Olympia development, which includes the library and elementary school. The City
has carved out the site and knows some of the parameters, but how that school goes on
the site is up to the School Board.
Mr. Shapiro said the middle school is a "smart school," which means a group outside
the School Board at the state level is calling the shots on the school. This creates a
situation in which statutory requirements and dollar requirements to the grants being
received are being placed on the School Board which, in turn, has to act at a quick
pace. The School Board, in turn, will look to the City, which has only a limited
number of times to say something and react. In this case, to a large degree, even the
School Board is not in control of what happens to the school. He said that in the next
five years there will be five more schools constructed in the City.
Ms. Christoefl suggested having an open workshop including both Commissions since
neither Commission would serve over any type of plan. Anyone who is concerned
could attend. Then possibly recommendations could be made from the City as a whole.
Mr. Wagner referred to informal public hearings the Expressway Authority has had to
give the public a chance to look at drawings and make comments. He said if that was
the approach the Planning and Zoning Commission wanted, staff would encourage them
to take that kind of approach. Discussion followed.
Ms. Christoefl asked if lights can be provided in areas where children wait for buses in
the dark. Mr. Shapiro said staff will be giving the Planning and Zoning Commission
an upgraded lighting plan when the major road widening is done. Ms. Christoefl said
she was referring to subdivisions where children congregate at one spot. Mr. Shapiro
said in a subdivision where the road is private, public dollars cannot be spent. Security
lights can be rented, and the Homeowner's Association can pay for them and put them
in the bus stop locations.
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CHAIRMAN SWITZER ADDRESSED THE BOARD (Non - Agendaed Item)
`N•► Chairman Switzer handed the gavel to Vice Chairman Bond so that he could address
the Commission.
Mr. Switzer said it had come to his attention that from time to time the Planning and
Zoning Commission had voted on issues where there was not a unanimous vote. In
other words, there are times when there might be a 3 -2 vote or a 4 -1 vote. He asked if
they would like to see the Chairman or Vice Chairman of the Planning and Zoning
Commission attend the City Commission meetings to express the feelings of the
Planning and Zoning Commission to the City Commission after staff made its
presentation. For instance, there was some confusion about the area along Gotha Road.
In that case, a 0 -3 vote turned into a 5 -0 vote. Had he or the Vice Chairman been
present, perhaps the feelings of the Planning and Zoning Commission could have been
conveyed a little better than what staff was able to do in their hard copy. He said Staff
does a fine job, and he was not criticizing them at all. Sometimes the spoken word can
convey an idea better than the written word. If it were the consensus of the Planning
and Zoning Commission, he would be happy to attend the City Commission meetings.
Mr. Landefeld, Ms. Rhodus, Ms. Hopkins and Ms. Bond concurred. Ms.
Christoefl was concerned that Chairman Switzer might be in an awkward position on a
controversial issue, but was assured it would not be a personal issue.
Mr. Shapiro said he thought the appropriate approach would be to write a letter to the
City Commission outlining their proposal, and the final decision would be the City
Commission's. Discussion followed.
Mr. Shapiro strongly recommended having Chairman Switzer meet with Deputy City
Clerk Green to write a letter, copying everyone on the Planning and Zoning
Commission and sending it to the City Commission for discussion.
Chairman Switzer asked if the letter to the City Commission should be a letter of
request or a letter of intent. Mr. Shapiro said it should be a letter of request since it is
the City Commission's agenda.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS (Non - Agendaed Item)
Chairman Switzer said one item not on the agenda was the election of officers for
1999.
Member Landefeld, seconded by Member Rhodus, moved to retain Chairman Switzer
and Vice Chairman Bond as chairman and vice chairman respectively for 1999. Motion
carried 6 -0.
COMMENTS
Mr. Shapiro said he was glad to be present and hear what the board was doing.
Chairman Switzer thanked him for coming, saying they appreciated his presence.
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Mr. Wagner advised that Senior Planner Horne would be out for six to eight weeks
Nosy following emergency surgery. In the interim, there is quite a "dent" in the operation of
the Planning Department.
Planning Director Wagner said he hoped the Olympia development project, which is
the library and the school with the commercial piece at Clarke and Silver Star, would
be on the agenda in February.
Ms. Rhodus asked about the potential high school site at Fullers Cross load and Ocoee -
Apopka Road. Mr. Wagner said the high school site is on hold due to a problem, and
that, hopefully, it will move ahead shortly, or an alternate site will be found. The idea
of getting a high school built in Ocoee, or very close by, has not been dropped.
Discussion followed about possible future businesses in the City.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Attest: APPROVED:
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