HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-02-2012 MInutes Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the
CITY OF OCOEE GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT TRUST FUND
BOARD OF TRUSTEES (GERB)
Held on May 2, 2012
At 150 N. Lakeshore Drive
Ocoee, FL 34761
CALL TO ORDER — Chairman Wagner
Chairman Russ Wagner called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. in the Commission Chambers
at City Hall.
A. Roll Call
Chairman Wagner called the roll. Present were Chairman Russ Wagner, Trustees Jean
Grafton, David Wheeler, and Pat Gleason. Trustee Wendy West was absent. The recording
clerk declared that a quorum was present.
Also present were GERB Attorney Lee Dehner, Mr. Tim Nash of Bogdahn Consulting,
LLC, Senior Administrative Assistant Sharon Zink, and GERB Recording Clerk Stella
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B. Approval of Minutes
Chairman Wagner directed the board's attention to the minutes for the February 1, 2012
meeting (Exhibit #1). A motion having been made by Trustee Grafton and seconded by
Chairman Wagner, and that motion having carried unanimously, the board
RESOLVED to approve the February 1, 2012 minutes.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Chairman Wagner directed the board's attention to the consent agenda noting the list of
paid invoices. Chairman Wagner announced the fact that although Pension Technician
Junelli Maher is no longer with the City, she did a tremendous amount of work getting the
board's records up to speed and the spreadsheet completed. Ms. Maher got everything
scanned as well, the chairman added. He announced that the board will pay the City for
Senior Administrative Assistant Sharon Zink's time, specifically nine hours of overtime per
biweekly pay period, to take on the extra duties of pension administration, the chairman
announced. A motion having been made by Trustee Grafton, and seconded by Trustee
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Wheeler, to ratify payment of nine hours of overtime biweekly to the City of Ocoee for
pension administration duties performed by Senior Administrative Assistant Sharon Zink,
and that motion having carried unanimously, the board
RESOLVED to ratify payment to the City for Ms. Zink's services.
Trustee Grafton asked if it would now be necessary to recruit for a permanent replacement.
Chairman Wagner answered that since Ms. Zink was working out quite well, that Ms. Zink
sits right outside the chairman's door, and given all of the work Pension Tech. Maher did, it
would not be necessary to recruit. He reminded the board that Ms. Zink served the board
prior to the hiring of Ms. Maher. Nevertheless, Ms. Zink is still in a learning mode with
respect to working with fund members given that the pension needs of each member are
different. The chairman added that Ms. Zink is going above and beyond the call of duty [in
handling the additional responsibilities] to which Trustee Grafton added, "As usual ".
Trustee Grafton reminded the chairman that the board was about to improve invoices. Ms.
Zink listed the invoices that were added. Trustee Grafton commended Ms. Zink for giving
the trustees invoice information as it came in rather than all at once. The trustee said that she
found this method quite helpful. Discussion ensued. A motion was made by Trustee Grafton
to ratify the payment of the invoices.
Trustee Wheeler asked if invoices that came in after the agenda was published could be held
until the next meeting since adding invoices after the fact amounts to amending the agenda.
Chairman Wagner replied that rather than have an invoice wait three additional months, he
preferred to get as many of them as possible ratified at the advertised meeting. Trustee
Wheeler said that he was simply voicing his opinion. His second matter of concern was
having Fifth Third Bank notified that Mr. James Carnicella no longer works for the board.
Chairman Wagner answered that the notification to the bank has been made three times.
Trustee Wheeler having seconded the motion, and the motion having carried unanimously,
the board
RESOLVED to ratify the invoices.
As a point of clarification, the recording clerk asked if the previous motion was intended to
approve the entire consent agenda. Trustee Grafton confirmed that such was the original
purpose of the motion. Trustee Grafton, seconded by Trustee Wheeler, having moved to
approve the consent agenda, and that motion having carried unanimously, the board
RESOLVED to approve the consent agenda.
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NEW BUSINESS
A. Investment Consultant Report — Mr. Tim Nash of Bogdahn Consulting, LLC
Mr. Nash greeted the board. He said that the markets had been kinder to the fund during the
second quarter, and with that, began his report.
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International and emerging markets were both up 11% and 14% respectively. S &P 500 was
up by 12.6 %, bonds (Barclay's Aggregate Bond Index, the plan's benchmark) were positive
by 1/3 %. Mr. Nash remarked that Bogdahn is very pleased to have an active bond manager
rather than just using an index fund. The reason for that is the Barclay's Aggregate Index has
40% of the overall portfolio in treasury bonds. Treasury bonds were down 1.3 %. Agincourt
owns less than 15 % of treasury bonds in its portfolio yet did three times better than the
benchmark. This is largely due to not having treasury bonds in the portfolio.
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The top chart on page 5 shows how different sectors in the large cap stocks did during the
quarter. Rockwood did not do well for the quarter compared to the benchmark. The Russell
1000 is the relative benchmark. The top performing sector contains energy stock which
comprised about 10.8 % of Russell 1000 index. Rockwood contained only 2% of energy
stock. If Rockwood had more energy stock, they would have done better. Utility stocks
were down 1.6% and made up only 3.4% of the benchmark, but Rockwood had 11% of it.
Having a lot of a lower performing stock hurt Rockwood.
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The credit qualities of bonds appear at the top. Ocoee's fund does not have many junk bonds
in its portfolio, but over the last two and a half quarters, junk bonds have done quite well.
Corporate bonds did well and the plan has over 60% of its investment in those bonds which
caused the plan to do well overall.
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The investment program is displayed showing what each money manager has done. As of
March 31 the plan closed at $22,128,950, up from $19,000,000. The plan is in line with its
investment policy statement.
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Mr. Nash pointed out that this page shows cash flow for the quarter. Trustee Wheeler
asked if in the March 2012 disbursement, the $841,000, is the money going off to the REIT
(real estate investment trust). Mr. Nash answered that the funds are in the money market
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fund sitting in the disbursement account waiting for the real estate company to call for that
capital, hopefully within the next quarter. With respect to cash flows, the plan had a dollar
gain of $1,437,803 for the quarter. For the fiscal year the dollar gain is $2,450,079.
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Mr. Nash went on to point out the gains expressed as a percentage. Of the 430 plans
(throughout the nation) in the sample to which Ocoee's fund is compared for the six months
ending in March, the range was as low as 10.5% total return of stocks and bonds, and as high
as 17 %. Ocoee's fund was at 12.63% which was at the lower portion of the range. This low
ranking is primarily due to the underperformance of Rockwood, Mr. Nash said. Rockwood
was a part of the funds multi -cap strategy. The fund did not do as well as the median money
manager, and this put the plan below the median at the 67 percentile.
Regarding international stocks, Baring was behind for the quarter. There are two reasons for
this: 1) they are wading in energy and basic materials securities for the quarter and were a
little bit under the market. Longer term they will perform very well. For the quarter they
were only up 10.45% when the index (fiscal year to date) was up 15.55 %. For the full year,
this stock did a great job protecting the fund from more extreme downturns. They were only
down 1.33% when the index was down by 6.75 %. Agincourt was positive 1.3% which is
40% of the portfolio. The index was up only by 1/3 %. Further discussion ensued. Mr.
Nash said that a lot of credit is due the bond manager because the money manager has done a
good job of having the right mix of bonds to help stave off volatility.
The chairman remarked that it was quite significant that in a one -year period, even the fixed
income exceeded the 8% expected return. Mr. Nash agreed that it was rather remarkable. He
said that a lot of the credit goes to the bond manager who diversified the bonds.
He drew the board's attention back to Rockwood. As of March 31 when the most recent
quarter is added, Rockwood is below the 40 percentile target in the investment policy
statement on a three -year and five -year view. One must look at what has happened in the last
five quarters with respect to the investment statement. Rockwood has been a `mixed bag'.
See the report on page 23. Rockwood does not have 5 full quarters of underperformance, but
quite a few quarters did not meet the index. The highs and the lows have become more
extreme.
Bogdahn thinks that it would be a good idea to look at options to replace Rockwood, Mr.
Nash concluded. Chairman Wagner remarked that ICC was not doing so well either, Mr.
Nash responded that ICC's underperformance was related to the American Airline
bankruptcy which took the wind out of their short term sales. Bogdahn likes their long term
strategy, however. Mr. Nash continued that they can take a look at both ICC and
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Rockwood, if the board would like, but he thinks the board definitely needs to take a look at
Rockwood.
Chairman Wagner said that he had requested the pension report for police and fire because
he did not know what their strategy was. He wondered how the General Employees
Retirement Fund was doing compared to the Police /Firefighters Retirement Fund. Mr. Nash
answered that the general employees' fund has done better long -term, but the police /fire fund
did better last quarter and fiscal year to date. He continued that the other plan is doing things
differently than the general employees' fund. The chairman said that he would feel a lot
better if the ups and downs were not as up and down. He wants to know that the board is
using money managers who are doing a good job consistently.
Mr. Nash said in the longer term, the general employees' fund is actually closer to its
projections. They have a different bond manager, Garcia Hamilton, who they just hired after
having SunTrust. Mr. Nash continued that Garcia Hamilton's strategies are similar to those
of Agincourt. On the international side, the police /fire fund has Manning and Napier, a
mutual fund, while the general employees' plan has Baring.
On the equity side, the general employees' fund portfolio has two all -cap managers
(Rockwood with large -cap stocks and ICC which tends to have smaller and mid -cap stocks),
both of which can move all around. From an investment standpoint it looks a lot like the
index, never being tilted too far to value stocks, or too far to growth stocks. The police /fire
fund has done it a little differently. It has a core manager called Westand. They have only 20
to 25 stocks in their portfolio they're always going to be core and will always stay in the
large -cap bucket which reduces the extreme ups and downs. They have an all -cap value
manager and an all -cap growth manager. Moody Aldrich, their value manager, has enormous
swings, which is something that the police chairman was not happy with. In the last six
months they were up 32 %. For the whole year they are in the 100 percentile; in other
words, at the bottom. Mr. Nash says that he can show the board a combination of both
types. There really is no right or wrong between the two pension fund strategies, he
concluded.
Chairman Wagner remarked that as they are writing the checks to the money managers and
he looks at the returns from each, he begins to think that they could have simply put the
money in an index fund and have achieved a better return. Trustee Wheeler reminded the
board that a couple of years ago, Rockwood was in the dumper. Chairman Wagner added
that Rockwood pulled out of that slump. The chairman said that he would rather have the
funds that plod and get closer to the index. He added that he would like Bogdahn to help the
board find those managers that will help the fund find consistency. The chairman stated that
the board could have a special meeting without the board attorney, who interjected that he,
the board attorney, would like to be present for any for interviews. Trustee Wheeler asked
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if the board wants to have the selection made by next board meeting or if it is going to drag
the matter out for two or more meetings. The chairman answered that he would have to ask
Mr. Nash. The chairman said he had read that a boost to the market has already happened.
He continued that Ocoee's fund missed out on the biggest bump by quite a few points.
Chairman Wagner said that they have always been behind everyone else. Then for a year
or so they were doing quite well, but have now slipped back.
The chairman asked Mr. Nash if he saw anything on the horizon indicating that Rockwood
might improve. Mr. Nash said this is a long -term strategic allocation move for the fund, and
he would be happy have special meeting to review it all. Trustee Wheeler said that his
comments were not to delay action. In fact, he would like to see the matter resolved by the
next regular board meeting, and have a special meeting by next week. Mr. Nash said that
Bogdahn will need 20 to 25 days because they will custom blend all the different managers
with Ocoee's managers. Chairman Wagner asked if it would make sense to also look at
ICC. Mr. Nash said that Bogdahn can bring information so that they can fully evaluate both
managers. Further discussion ensued as to a date for the special meeting. June 13th was
selected.
B. Retirement Ordinance Changes
Chairman Wagner spoke about the April 18 memorandum that he sent to Attorney Lee
Dehner. After meeting with the city manager and his staff, the changes were forwarded to
Foster and Foster (the City's actuary). It was agreed by all parties that the changes would be
those contained in the memo. The basic answer from Foster & Foster was that none of the
changes individually would have a large effect. The biggest change would be the change of
the employee contribution from 7.4 to 7.8. Right now the City contributes more than double
what the employees contribute.
The fund also has to comply with state regulations with respect to personal time calculations.
The employee gets the maximum amount of paid leave at the time of his retiring as of July 1,
2011. The board is basically `grandfathering in' employees so that they will be paid for their
leave at the time of retirement. The board also recommended changes to the DROP program
by supporting a set interest rate for calculation. The interest rate recommended would go
from 6.5% to 3 %. All changes will apply to new employees only. On the second page of the
memo are all of the changes which include 7 years to vest no matter ones age; retirement age
will go from age 60 to 62; one must have at least 10 years of service to even apply for
DROP.
Chairman Wagner asked Attorney Dehner how long it would be before they will see the
changes in the ordinance. Attorney Dehner replied he would shoot for four to eight weeks
to incorporate the changes. He added that if he can get the changes sooner to the board, he
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will do so. Further discussion ensued. Chairman Wagner asked the attorney if the changes
had to come back to the board. Attorney Dehner replied affirmatively.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. Report on N.Y. Stock Exchange School
Chairman Wagner reported on his experience at the New York Stock Exchange. He said
that the experience was very valuable. His group went to JP Morgan and got to speak with
some very top people. The chairman spoke about how he was struck by the youth of the
speaker, a young man in his thirties, yet they are in charge of worldwide investments for the
firm. It was interesting with the computerization of everything, and with microsecond
trading going on, yet our speaker's education was in Art and Anthropology. This is because
lot of investment requires looking at what the market is doing or has done. They look at
public perception/reaction to events going on in the world; a very humanistic type of
approach. They use human qualities (for example, people's desire for tooth whiteners in
toothpaste) to determine how the market will react. They would conclude that Colgate
Palmolive would be a company in which to invest.
The group went on the floor of the US Stock Exchange and got to talk to the 'market makers',
formally called stock traders. Their speaker had thirty stocks that he watches all day and he
makes sure that no one is doing anything funny with Colgate Palmolive, for example, or
whatever stock he is responsible for. It was a great trip.
Trustee Grafton said that it makes one feel good about FPPTA. The chairman agreed.
B. FPPTA — Upcoming Events
The chairman noted that the next association meeting would be held soon. Trustee Grafton
supplied that it will be June 24 through the 27 at Hilton Disney in Lake Buena Vista. The
chairman will not be attending as he will be celebrating his mother's 90 birthday with her in
Iowa. Trustee Gleason said that she will be attending. After some discussion, Trustee
Grafton said that she will be attending as well. The chairman directed Ms. Zink to work
with the trustees to make the necessary preparations for the trip.
ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Board Attorney Dehner had three topics.
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1) There was no pension related legislation passed during the last session. The main focus
has been on the Florida Retirement System (FRS).
2) Several years ago, it was discussed whether it would be in the City's interest to sue
Merrill Lynch regarding their prior services to the pension fund. They determined not to
sue. A class- action suit was filed consisting of some 70 agencies that did not sue. The
class action will be settled at a conference on July 27 The City is in that class and will
share in the recovered funds as long as the City does not opt out by July 6th. Attorney
Dehner said that there is no reason for the City to opt out. The preliminary amount the
City will receive is $26,500. The attorney said that he has copies of the notice of the
proposed settlement plus claims forms. The board will be receiving the original claims
forms from the court. The forms need to be filed before September 11 Chairman
Wagner asked if the forms were something that needed to be run by him (Attorney
Dehner) or are they simple enough for him (the chairman) to fill out. Attorney Dehner
answered that there is a 1 -800 number to use for questions about the forms, but the board
can call on him (Attorney Delmer) if they need anything.
3) Attorney Dehner reminded board members to file financial disclosures. He also stressed
that the members complete the forms accurately. Attorney Dehner spoke about an
elected official having to pay $38,000 for an inaccuracy in his financial disclosure forms.
COMMENTS FROM TRUSTEES / CITY LIAISON
Chairman Wagner noted that the liaison was not present. He asked Ms. Zink if the Mr.
Williford had been notified about the meeting. She said that she thought he had been notified.
Trustee Gleason asked about the City paying twice what employees pay in contributions. She
wanted to know how that compares to other cities. The chairman said he has been told that
Ocoee is in the `middle of the pack'. The chairman noted the City this year will pay $800,000
more for both pensions. This is why the board is looking for other managers that can do well
with regard to better returns on investment, Chairman Wagner said. He also reminded the
board that there will be significant savings to the City as current employees leave and new
employees come aboard. Trustee Wheeler said it will take one more year for the negative
smoothing factor to fall off. Mr. Nash confirmed that this is so. Further discussion ensued.
Chairman Wagner reminded the board that he included a Bogdhan report in each agenda
packet. It shows how the up and down cycles have happened throughout history. The report
shows that stocks have come through the downward cycle and are now moving upward. People
who got out of the stock market will miss the whole up side. The Bogdhan report said the wider
the fund invests in, the better the returns will be long term. Chairman Wagner ended with
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saying that the board is doing all of the right things. Mr. Nash said former Federal Reserve
Chairman Alan Greenspan echoed Chairman Wagner's sentiment.
AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING
Special Meeting — June 13, 2012
COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no other business, the meeting was adjourned at 12:04 p.m.
(e s ectfully submitted by: Ap . r t ed by:
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Stella McLeod, Muni • :a ' - . Coordinator Russell B. Wagner, GE : Chairman
GERB Recording Clerk