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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
ACTING AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
MEETING HELD TUESDAY, JANUARY 10, 2006
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Golden called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Following a moment
of silent meditation and the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, a quorum was
declared present.
PRESENT: Chairman Golden, Vice-Chairman McKey, Members Campbell,
Conkling, Keller, Morris, Rhodus, Sills, and West. Also present were
City Attorney Storey, Community Development Director Wagner,
Principal Planner James, Planning Manager Armstrong, and
Records Specialist Sibbitt.
ABSENT: None
CONSENT AGENDA
Minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting held on
Tuesday, November 8,2005.
Member Keller, seconded bv Vice-Chair McKev, moved to acceot the Consent
Aaenda as oresented. Motion carried unanimouslv.
NEW BUSINESS
LAKEWOOD ESTATES - ANNEXATION
Principal Planner James presented the Staff Report for the Annexation of
Lakewood Estates PUD. The Lakewood Estates is located West of the
Intersection of Wurst Road and Lakewood Avenue/Clarcona-Ocoee Road. The
property is comprised of 15.8 acres and is designated Low Density Residential on
the Future Land Use Map (FLUM) and the Orange County-Ocoee Joint Planning
Area (JPA). Property is being annexed based on the fact that it is contiguous with
the northwest corner of the property touching the southeast corner of the Chevron
property. The property currently has a one-single-family residential structure with
six sheds that will be removed. An Annexation Feasibility Report has been done,
which is consistent with State regulations.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
On December 19, 2005, the DRC met to determine if the proposed annexation
was consistent with the City's regulations and policies. Based on analysis and
subsequent discussions, the DRC recommended approval of the annexation of
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STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Based on the analysis and the subsequent DRC recommendations, Staff
recommends that the Planning & Zoning Commission, acting as the Local
Planning Agency, recommend approval of the annexation of the 15.8-acre
affordable housing subdivision known as Lakewood Estates.
The Public Hearing was opened
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
Vice Chair McKey stated he went into the Orange County Property Appraisers
website and saw that the property had sold for $550,000.00+ and wondered why
that number was not in their report just as general information. Principal Planner
James stated they usually go with the Appraised Taxable Value or the Just Value
as opposed to the Sale Price.
Chairman Golden asked if any member of the Public was in opposition of the
Annexation. There was no response.
The Public Hearing was closed
Vice Chair McKev. seconded bv Member Milton. moved to recommend approval
of the annexation as staff presented it. Motion carried 9-0.
The Public Hearing was opened for Rezoning
LAKEWOOD ESTATES - PUD LAND USE/PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN
Planning Manager Armstrong presented the staff report for PUD Land Use
Rezoning for Lakewood Estates. Lakewood Avenue runs north and south on the
property with Wurst Road currently dead-ending at Lakewood. There will be a
temporary cul-de-sac at the end of the road; however, sometime in the future
Wurst Road is planned to be extended westward from the subject property to
eventually connect with Ocoee-Apopka Road. There will also be a north-south
internal road that is going to connect to the property to the south whenever that
southern property does develop, but for now it will dead end with a cul-de-sac to
the northeast of the property. The proposal is to develop fifty-four (54) residential
single-family lots. Lakewood Estates is working with Orange County Homes in
Partnership to develop an affordable housing community and they have requested
that the property be rezoned to PUD. They are asking for standards that are
similar to the R-1 zoning with some of the lot width less than 70 feet in width.
Planning Manager Armstrong presented the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for
Lakewood Estates. Lakewood Estates will have a master retention pond on the
northwest corner of the property. A lift station, as well as a recreational tract with
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a gazebo, will be located on the north side of Wurst Road. Since Wurst Road is to
be extended through the property, Staff was concerned about providing off-road
parking, specifically for the single-family home that will front onto Wurst Road, so
a deeper front set-back will be imposed to allow for additional parking within the
driveway. Lots 38-49 will have a 6-foot tall PVC fence to allow for screening on
the rear of the lots. Water and sewer will be provided by the City of Ocoee. The
developer is dedicating a 10-foot additional right-of -way along Lakewood Avenue
for future roadway improvements. When the subdivision is completed, the
intersection of Lakewood Avenue and Wurst Road will be improved to a 4-way
stop. Future conditions of the intersection may include a possible signalization
and turn lane improvements. The applicant is providing for an eastbound left turn
lane from Wurst Road onto Lakewood Avenue, which will be 220 feet for
deceleration and storage. The applicant is also asking for a waiver for the side
setbacks of lots 12,13,37,38,46, and 49 to be reduced from 25 feet to 15 feet.
The reason for this request is to allow for the north-south connection and to allow
for the landscape and the wall. A development agreement is accompanying the
PUD Land Use Plan for approval and execution by City Commission. The
agreement is allowing road impact fee credits to be issued to the applicant in the
amount of $214,304.20 for the Wurst Road extension and turn lane improvements
on Wurst Road.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
The Development Review Committee (DRC) met on December 19, 2005, and
reviewed the PUD Land Use Plan and the Preliminary Subdivision Plan. Staff
discussed with the applicant two outstanding issues. The first, from the City
Attorney was regarding adding a Condition of Approval to Sheet C2 as follows:
"All stormwater from Wurst Road and any other internal public roads will drain into
Tract A at no cost to the City of Ocoee. An easement to that effect will be
provided on that plat." The second, from the Engineering Department, was
regarding a jumper from potable to reclaim water will be needed. It was
determined this could be shown on the plans during the Final Subdivision Plan
process.
The DRC voted unanimously to recommend approval of the PUD Land Use Plan,
subject to City Commission approval of the Development Agreement.
Additionally, the DRC voted unanimously to recommend approval of the
Preliminary Subdivision Plan, subject to the waiver and with additional conditions
regarding COA being added to Sheet C2 and the developer amending the plans
during the Final Subdivision Plan process to indicate a jumper from potable water
to reclaim water.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
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Based on the recommendation of the DRC, Staff respectfully recommends that
the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of rezoning the
property from Orange County "Citrus Rural" to PUD based upon approval of the
Land Use Plan/Preliminary Subdivision Plan, as date stamped received by the
City on December 20, 2005, subject to the City Commission approval of the
Development Agreement and further subject to the waiver and the following
additional conditions:
1. All stormwater from Wurst Road and any other internal public roads will
drain into Tract A at no cost to the City of Ocoee. An easement to that
effect will be provided on the plat.
2. Developer to add to the Final Subdivision plan, when submitted, a
jumper from potable water to reclaim.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
Chairman Golden inquired if the turn lane was on Lakewood Avenue going into
the subdivision. Planning Manager Armstrong stated the turn lane would be an
eastbound turn lane from Wurst Road onto Lakewood Avenue. She further stated
there was a discussion with the Public Works Director, and she believes the
applicant is going to get with Orange County during the Final Subdivision Plan to
look at any type of future road improvements that will need to be made to
Lakewood Avenue. At this point there will be a four way stop at Lakewood
Avenue.
Vice Chair McKey asked if the waivers only applied to the lots on the corner.
Planning Manager Armstrong said the applicants are asking to reduce the
setbacks on the corner lots from 25 feet to 15 feet. Vice Chair McKey asked if
the setback reduction was for all corner lots. Planning Manager Armstrong said
it would be all corners except for lot 21, since the side of that lot is backing up
onto Wurst Road.
Vice Chair McKey said it appeared that the right-of-way decreases as it goes
from Wurst Road across Lakewood Avenue and into the new Wurst Road section.
Community Development Director Wagner said he believes Lakewood Avenue
is 60 feet through the subdivision as a collector road. He further said one thing
that was not mentioned is that the applicant is also dedicating 10 feet of additional
right-of way along Lakewood Avenue. Vice Chair McKey said his concern is that
Wurst Road is going to continue all the way through, making it part of the traffic
pattern and no longer a collector road. Community Development Director
Wagner said in the comprehensive plan a collector road carries generally a range
of 12,000-15,000 trips a day. He further said Wurst Road is primarily for the
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convenience of the residents to be able to go out to other collectors roads and
onto major roadways.
Member Milton inquired as to when Wurst Road would eventually tie into Ocoee-
Apopka Road. Community Development Director Wagner said it would be
determined when the property to the west is annexed and they have a
development program, as of right now they do not know yet.
Chairman Golden asked if they could put "No Parking" signs on Wurst Road.
Community Development Director Wagner said since it is two moving lanes of
traffic, they can put "No Parking" signs up along the roadway.
Member Keller asked if there was a specific reason why they are not requiring
some lots to have additional setbacks so that they may have some additional off-
street parking as well. Planning Manager Armstrong said they worked with the
applicant to provide as much off-street parking as they could allow with fitting a
building envelope within the lots; however, they were constrained with the in lots in
getting that extra depth for the setback. Community Development Director
Wagner added that the lots Member Keller is referring to have a 30-foot setback,
where a normal lot has a 25-foot setback. He further stated they could also add a
parking space off to the side of the house. Member Conkling inquired if the
additional side spot was going to be a requirement. Community Development
Director Wagner said they would not normally require the side space but people
do normally put them in. Member Conkling stated he feels there is going to be a
parking nightmare once the cul-de-sac opens up and there is more through traffic.
John Kirby, Kirby Engineering, stated they do have the 30-feet; however, if they
had to they would much rather reduce the rear setback and increase the front
setback, but right now they are 5-10-feet larger than the normal front. He further
stated he would have to talk to his client about the side parking. Community
Development Director Wagner said lots 13-20 have some added depths, so
without too much trouble they could probably increase those to a 40-foot setback.
He further stated because lots 50-54 are backing up to the retention pond they
could easily have those lots, if desirable to the builder, taken to a 20-foot setback.
Community Development Director Wagner said the problem with adding a third
parking spot to a 60-foot lot is that it starts looking like a lot of concrete. Member
Morris inquired as to what the normal front setback is to a residential
development. Community Development Director Wagner stated a normal front
setback would be 25-feet. Member Morris then inquired as to why they are
getting five more feet. Member Keller stated the reason they have a larger
setback is that they do not have the extra parking on the road and in a normal
development they normally have wider roads, where in this case they do not.
Community Development Director Wagner said the easiest solution would be to
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add a further setback to lots 13-20 and on the other side of the street take five feet
from the rear. This could be looked at during the Final Subdivision Plan.
Community Development Director Wagner said he recommends adding
conditions or direction that they have the developer increase setbacks for those
lots west of Street A.
Member Rhodus said since the development will be a PUD and there will be a
Homeowner's Association, what happens if the HOA does not allow for cars to be
parked in the driveway but instead requires owner's to park inside their garage.
Community Development Director Wagner stated that would be a covenant
within the subdivision; the City does hot have any requirements that a resident has
to park their car in the garage.
Chairman Golden said by the picnic area it shows a wet pond that may have
about 10-feet of water in it. He further stated he would like some kind of
protection from young children running into the pond. John Kirby, Kirby
Engineering, stated part of the reason is because it is the code requirement and
the idea is not to create a compound. The pond is designed; however, to have a
general slope so that if someone were to fall in they could at least swim out to the
slope. The design meets state requirements.
Chairman Golden inquired as to why the picnic area was by the lift station. John
Kirby, Kirby Engineering, stated it was the only area they had open space.
Chairman Golden said, on the pond issue, the City Attorney requested that Tract
A accept any future run-off from the road. He further inquired if they felt that Tract
A was large enough to accept any future run-off with the roads widening. John
Kirby, Kirby Engineering, stated like the Lake Apopka Rule they are designing it
so that it is impervious.
Chairman Golden said there are surface water areas, pond, and ditches dug on
that site and is wondering how the developer plans to protect the homes from
falling into a hole that was there before. John Kirby, Kirby Engineering, said that
based on the Environmental Report that was done in the past, that area had been
classified as surface water; but if they do come across any kind of muck, they will
de-muck the site. Chairman Golden said there is a ditch on the site and was
wondering if it had a continuation or if it dead-ended on the property. John Kirby,
Kirby Engineering, stated the ditch does not collect any off-site run-off, but it will
retain the rainwater collected, meeting the St. John's Code, Ocoee City Code, and
Orange County Code, it will then be discharged off-site to the northwest as it has
been done in the past. Chairman Golden said the property is marked as
wetlands and inquired if they would have to mitigate the areas. John Kirby, Kirby
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Engineering, said the surveyor had marked the property as wetlands; the
Environmental Consultant had classified it as surface water, but when they obtain
their permit from St. John's, they will find out what they think. If St. John's
classifies it as wetlands there will have to be mitigation for which they will be fully
prepared to do.
Chairman Golden said the lots that they are asking for reduced setbacks on,
would they consider showing shrubs or additional landscaping provided by the
developer. He further said he would like to see further screening of those home
lots. John Kirby, Kirby Engineering, said the only lots that will be affected would
be lots 12, 13 and 49, and that should not be an issue.
Chairman Golden said he noticed only about ten trees on the survey and did not
notice any trees marked. John Kirby, Kirby Engineering, said any of the trees on
the landscape plan with an "x" will be removed; if they do not have an "x" then
those trees are staying.
Julie Schrader, 450 South Orange Avenue, Orlando (on behalf of Chevron
Property), said the Chevron property is to the northwest corner of the Lakewood
Estates parcel. She further stated they are not there opposing the development or
annexation, but they do have a concern they would like to see addressed as a
condition of approval on the development. The Chevron property has been
having a very bad problem with respect to flooding and drainage from adjacent
properties. Chevron is concerned that with the Lakewood Estates property going
from largely pervious surface to fifty-four (54) homes and a public road, which is a
large amount of impervious surface, that there will be an impact with the
pavement and drainage to their property. Julie Schrader further said what they
would like to see, as a condition of approval is that the drainage pond on site be
required to accept the drainage from the extension of the road or any expansion of
the road. They would like to see the developer hold their drainage on site, not just
from the roads but also from the home sites.
Chairman Golden asked Ms. Schrader if they had reviewed the developers
calculations. Julie Schrader stated they have not reviewed any construction level
drawings or stormwater drainage; however, their hope was just to get a condition
of approval at this level so that this could steer the details of the construction
calculations.
Edmond Harrison, 1350 Clarcona-Ocoee Road, stated the biggest water problem
is coming from Vignetti Park. He briefly explained and showed the drainage
problems on his property. Edmond Harrison also stated he would like the
developers to put a wall up on the north side of the Lakewood Estates. He
provided proof that since 1946 he has had a business on his property. Richard
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Harrison (son of Edmond Harrison), 127 11th Avenue, said that for the record he
would like the developers to know that his business allows his trucks to run at all
hours of the morning or night as a 24-hour emergency service.
Steve Marbais, 716 E. Lakeshore Road, said he owns a used car lot, which is
located on the corner lot across from the Lakewood Estates property. His biggest
concern is the turn lane and if the turn lane would take up the developers property
and not encroach onto his property. He further said he does not have a lot of
frontage on his property. His next concern is the appearance of the Lakewood
Estates subdivision and if the developers were going to maintain a nice clean
appearance with a brick wall.
Nora Mask, 1120 N. Lakewood Avenue, said she owns the 15 acres south of the
proposed Lakewood Estates. She stated for the last thirty years she has
observed the proposed Lakewood Estates property and has seen the land get
very soggy when it rains. She further stated she feels the land is excellent
pastureland and is not a good piece of land for a housing development. Nora
Mask said she has concerns with the following: 1) drainage affecting her
property; she does not want her land to become any wetter than it is because it
can affect her horses, 2) people in the new development wondering into her
pasture and feeding her horses, and 3) a Bald Eagle who resides in a tree, which
is right in the path of the proposed Wurst Road extension. She briefly explained
her concerns regarding the Bald Eagle and its nest.
Community Development Director Wagner said the Bald Eagle concern had
been discussed in the review process and his recollection is that the Eagle
projection zone was indicated to be crossing the northwest corner of the
Lakewood Estates property and a permit from the Wildlife Agency would be pulled
to do construction outside of the nesting season. He further stated if they find out
that the nest is closer to the site or the protection zone is greater than what they
think then that will affect the final engineering; however, it did not appear to them
that the extension of the road would affect the nest.
Jerry Mask, 1120 N. Lakewood Avenue, said his concern is regarding the pond
that the developer is building in the back of the proposed development. He stated
if the developer does not drain the pond in the direction of the Chevron property
then the whole neighborhood would get flooded. He proposes that the developer
sell the property to a rancher or farmer and buy land that will be a decent
neighborhood elsewhere to ensure people a decent quality of life.
Joe Margio, 140 N. Orlando Avenue, Winter Park (on behalf of Chevron
Property), said there is obviously many concerns about drainage and in reviewing
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the preliminary plans, there is an outfall structure proposed which will discharge
onto the Chevron property. Chevron is opposed to having their property
considered as legal positive outfall and if that is successfully argued then the
applicant will have to contain all their stormwater on-site, which means their pond
will have to be bigger. He further stated they have not looked at all the
calculations and he feels Mr. Kirby would also agree they have not developed to
that level yet.
Vice Chair McKey asked Mr. Margio if the Chevron property drains towards Lake
Apopka. Joe Margio stated it does and it has a ditch on the property, which does
drain towards Lake Apopka. Vice Chair McKey further stated to Mr. Margio that
because of that ditch there is an opportunity for them to drain excessive water off
their property.
John Kirby, Kirby Engineering, said he would be addressing all the issues. The
first issue regarding the Chevron property, he said they are proposing to put a
pond structure and put a treatment in with a continuation of being discharged and
not creating any more water than there had been before. He further stated his
ponds are designed to take care of discharge. Calculations have been done and
are available to be looked at.
Member West said the Lakewood Estates property falls under the Lake Apopka
Rule, which means they have to have more retention on the Lakewood Estates
property then on any other part of the County.
Vice Chair McKey asked Mr. Kirby if their outfall was an emergency outfall. John
Kirby stated their outfall retains a certain amount of water and then it outfalls, but
he would not consider it an emergency outfall.
Chairman Golden asked Mr. Kirby if they were planning to build up the property
in total or just the house lots. He also asked if they planned to have swales at the
rear of the lots to carry the water down to the northwest. John Kirby stated they
would be building the house up and not flat on the ground. Chairman Golden
further stated that if they were just building up the home lots and not the property,
it would be difficult to keep the water off the neighboring property. John Kirby
stated the roads would be raised somewhat and the home lots would be raised
about 2-2 % feet. Chairman Golden asked if the 2-2 % feet would be the pad or
the entire lot. John Kirby stated the actual pad as it gets away from the lot would
blend right from the lot to the street. Chairman Golden asked Mr. Kirby if the
swales would be down between the lots and at the rear of the lots to carry the
water to the pond. John Kirby stated that was correct and everyone they
discharge would go to the retention pond.
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John Kirby said regarding the property to the north and the drainage issue, he
thinks they also drain towards the Chevron property. As far as the Vignetti Park
area, he is not sure of the history.
Member West stated he feels there are some drainage problems but he does not
think it is the developer of the proposed Lakewood Estates problem. He further
stated he feels there will be less water on the Chevron property with the
subdivision there then they get right now.
John Kirby further stated that on the issue regarding the brick wall, there would
be a wall on Lakewood Avenue. He further stated the developer did not intend to
put a wall on the north side because it will be extremely costly. Member West
asked if it was possible to put a fence up along the north side. Member Sills
stated if the roles were flipped and Mr. Harrison were to develop, they would
probably require him to put up a wall regardless of the cost. Member Sills further
stated it is not fair to the homeowners who will not be told prior to purchasing their
homes in the Lakewood Estates subdivision, that trucks will be starting at all times
of the day. Member Sills inquired if they could put some type of wall (either wood
or masonry) or maybe a landscape buffer. John Kirby stated they could consider
landscape since they will be landscaping the property.
Chairman Golden said he would like to hear from the applicant, his take on the
Bald Eagle issue. John Kirby stated the Bald Eagle nest only affects the property
to the west and not their property. He further stated that due to the many
hurricanes several laws have changed regarding the Bald Eagle zones.
Donald Harrison, address unknown, stated if they build the home lot pad up 2
feet what will happen to the property on the sides. He further stated the land is
already wet. Vice Chair McKey stated there would be swales that will direct the
water to the retention.
Richard Harrison asked how many houses were allowed per acre and with the
changes if it was consistent with what was up and down Wurst Road already.
Planning Manager Armstrong stated the zoning of the property is "Citrus Rural"
and she believes it is one unit per five acres. She further stated the older lots on
Wurst Road are 60 feet in width and are smaller lots, but there are a mixture of
different size lots in that area. Richard Harrison asked when the plans were
going to take place for a traffic signal at the intersection by the Lakewood Estates.
Chairman Golden stated it would probably be a while before a traffic signal will
be placed there. Planning Manager Armstrong stated that at this point, it would
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be a four way stop sign but future conditions may warrant a traffic signal with turn
lane improvements.
Julie Schrader stated, regarding the drainage issue, they understand that the
Chevron property is accepting drainage now; however, in its current stage the
ditch on the applicant's property accepts drainage from multiple properties. She
further stated what is happening is they are going to pave their entire piece of
property and maintain that they will still be allowed to put the same amount of
drainage onto the property that previously came from multiple properties. Julie
Schrader said that the City Code provides for a 25-year storm, which is not
sufficient and provides for equivalent rate not volume. The Lakewood Estates
property could now discharge at one cubic foot per second for ten hours instead of
one hour, which would result in Chevron getting more water. The City Code also
provides that the City has the discretion to increase the requirement to prevent
flooding and they are requesting that in a minimum they require to hold 125-year
storm in consistent volumes. John Kirby stated he does not want to address
anything further regarding the drainage onto Chevron, but will speak with them
privately. He further said if there is any off-site property with drainage coming
toward their property, they have to accept it or at least straddle it around their
property and Chevron has the same responsibility.
The Public Hearing was closed.
DISCUSSION
Vice Chair McKey said he feels the 25-year storm is obsolete and they should be
looking into going to at least a 100-year storm as a standard. He further said with
this particular situation he thinks they should look at the issue and see if they can
increase the volume and put a fence at the angle of the slope without incurring too
much expense to the owner's of the development.
Member Conkling said under staff recommendation he did not see anything
addressing that there was a Bald Eagle near the property. Community
Development Director Wagner stated that as Mr. Kirby had mentioned they did
inquire about it and the information they were given had said it did not affect the
property. He further stated his recollection is that the protection zone may have
affected where the retention pond is going to be located. He also stated a
developer can build within the protection zone at certain times of the year, but in
this instance it did not affect the property nor is the nest located on the property.
At the final subdivision plan approval, the developer will need to provide a letter
from the Fish and Wildlife Agency and provide the City with any conditions the
Fish and Wildlife Agency imposes on the development.
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Member Keller asked if the Planning and Zoning Commission could actually have
this development go back to OCR instead of going forward since there are many
issues such as the Bald Eagle, the neighbors trucking business, and drainage
problems. He further stated he feels they should really have all these issues
decided before they take a vote to move it forward.
Member Campbell said he felt the same and that there are too many unanswered
questions such as the drainage issue not being resolved and a wall needing to be
placed along the northern boundary as noise barrier from the trucks. He further
stated he feels there needs to be a little further planning.
Member Morris said that regarding the Bald Eagle issue the developer will have
to meet State guidelines and requirements. He further stated whatever is legal for
their retention pond size and drainage they should do it and if they cannot
Chevron can stop them. As far as the noise issue with the trucks, Member Morris
feels the residents should have to put up their own fence if the noise is too much
for them. Member Morris stated the developer went through DRC and staff
without any issues and his experience with the developer is that they are a quality
company, he has been involved with them through other developments through
the County, and he would recommend approval.
Member West said he agrees that there are issues; however, the Bald Eagle is
not a big issue because the development of Westyn Bay and Forestbrooks were
both permitted by the Fish and Wildlife Agency prior to development. He further
stated that he agrees there is currently a drainage problem but he does not
believe that it is being caused by the Lakewood Estates property. With the Lake
Apopka Rule and the retention pond that the developer is proposing he feels the
drainage will get better and further would recommend approval of the project.
Member Sills said many people who buy affordable housing might not always be
able to just up root and move. His concerns are for the citizens of Ocoee.
Member Rhodus said she has been on the board of the Orange County Family
Self Sufficiency Program for about six years and it was announced at a function
that the Lakewood Estates development was coming to Ocoee. She further
stated there was so much excitement for the development because there is a
definite need for affordable housing and she would like to see families have it;
however, she agrees with some of the concerns regarding muck due to excessive
water.
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Vice Chair McKey inquired as to what an affordable housing would cost. Toby
Best said the maximum cost would be $156,000, with the home having a
minimum of approximately 1300 square feet.
Member Keller said he is not against the development going up he is against
them doing it right now because he feels it has not been thought through all the
way with some of the issues that were brought up. He further stated he feels their
responsibility is that when it goes to the City Commission their board had made
the best efforts on making sure the property is at its best and he feels they have
not done that. City Attorney Storey stated the options before the board are to
either approve with or without conditions, or deny. If they deny it would still have
to go before City Commission with those conditions of denial. Member Keller
asked if they could move to have it go back before staff. City Attorney Storey
said they could not have it go back before staff; however, the developer can
voluntarily withdrawal or remand it back to DRC, but that is not one of the options
for the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Member West said they would never get anything to the City Commission if they
depend on knowing every answer. He understands the concerns of Member
Keller, but he feels it should be recommended to send this project onto the City
Commission with their concerns being considered.
Community Development Director Wagner stated their concerns are well
founded and he feels the best they can do is address all their concerns as
conditions to the City Commission; who will either approve them subject to those
conditions or address them at final. He further stated there is another Public
Hearing regarding this property before the City Commission where all their issues
will be numerated again. Community Development Director Wagner said he
would recommend they do what they have normally done in the past, which would
be to list all their concerns and recommend approval subject to those conditions.
Chairman Golden said he feels the drainage issues are valid but feels they are
Orange County issues. He further stated even though projects are well
engineered it does not mean they will not have drainage problems. He further
stated what is before them are preliminary subdivision plans and what he sees is
that the developer is looking to contain their water and are meeting the code.
Chairman Golden further said he believes a preliminary study was done
regarding the Bald Eagle and it was concluded that it would not impact the
property and he is sure other studies will be done. He does, however believe a
condition should be added for the northern boundary having a wall or some kind of
sound barrier. Chairman Golden said there is a need for affordable housing in
Ocoee and Orange County and he feels that this is a good location for it.
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Vice Chair McKey. seconded bv Member Keller, moved to approve rezonina of
the Lakewood Estates propertv from Oranae County "Citrus Rural" to PUD. based
upon approval of the Land Use Plan/Preliminarv Subdivision Plan. as date
stamped received bv the Citvon December 20. 2005. subiect to the Citv
Commission approval of the Development Aareement and further subiect to the
waiver and the followina additional conditions: 1) All stormwater from Wurst Road
and anv other internal public roads will drain into Tract A at no cost to the Citvof
Ocoee. An easement to that effect will be provided on the plat. 2) Developer to
add to the Final Subdivision plan. when submitted. a iumper from potable water to
reclaim. 3) Staff look at re-evaluation of proposed retention pond to a hiaher
capacitv of a 1 OO-vear level. 4) Developer increase the minimal front setback to at
least 35 feet for lots 13-20 and 50-54. 5) Provide additionallandscapina for comer
lots with the front setback of 15 feet. 6) Developer place a wall. fence. or
additionallandscapina or other form of sound barrier a/ona the northern boundary
of the property. for pUf/Jose of reducina the amount of noise from the neiahbors
from the north. and 7) Developer to determine whether a permit is/is not reauired
from the appropriate aovernmental aaencv as it relates to the Eaale and its nest.
Motion carried unanimouslv.
The Public Hearing was open for the Preliminary Subdivision Plan
As no one wished to speak, the Public Hearing was closed for the
Preliminary Subdivision Plan. (Same comments and conditions carried over)
Vice Chair McKey. seconded bv Member Morris, moved to approve the
Preliminarv Subdivision Plan for Lakewood Estates. based upon approval of the
Land Use Plan/Preliminarv Subdivision Plan. as date stamped received bv the
City on December 20. 2005. subiect to the Citv Commission approval of the
Develooment Aqreement and further subiect to the waiver and the followinq
additional conditions: 1) All stormwater from Wurst Road and anv other internal
public roads will drain into Tract A at no cost to the Citv of Ocoee. An easement
to that effect will be provided on the plat. 2) Developer to add to the Final
Subdivision plan. when submitted. a iumper from potable water to reclaim. 3) Staff
look at re-evaluation of proposed retention pond to a hiaher capacitv of a 100-vear
level. 4) Developer increase the minimal front setback to at least 35 feet for lots
13-20 and 50-54. 5) Provide additionallandscapina for comer lots with the front
setback of 15 feet. 6) Developer place a wall. fence. or additionallandscapina or
other form of sound barrier a/ona the northern boundary of the propertv. for
purpose of reducina the amount of noise from the neiahbors from the north. and 7)
Developer to determine whether a permit is/is not reauired from the appropriate
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aovernmental aaencv as it relates to the Eaale and its nest. Motion carried
unanimouslv.
MISCELLANEOUS
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
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Melanie Sibbltt, Records Specialist
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