HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-20-2013 MinutesTHE CITY OF OCOEE
VIOLATIONS HEARING BOARD MEETING JUNE 20, 2013
CALL TO ORDER
Member Ball called the Violations Hearing Board meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. in the
Commission Chambers of City Hall and led the Pled of Allegiance to the Flag. The roll was
called and a quorum declared.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Members Amey, Garland, Laney, Lopez -Anderson, and Ball.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Member Zielinski (excused).
ALSO PRESENT: Lt. Dreasher, Staff -Liaison Sgt. Wagner, Cpl. Dewey Mullan, City Attorney
Cookson, Ofc. Joseph Peterson, Court Clerk Decaul, and Recording Clerk Garza.
REGULAR AGENDA
A. Nomination and Selection of Officers
A motion was made by Member Laney to nominate Member Ball for Chairman seconded bX
Member Amev. Motion passed unanimously.
A motion was made Member Garland to nominate Member Amey for Vice -Chair, seconded by
Member Lopez -Anderson.
A motion was made by Member Amev to nominate Member Laney for Vice -Chair, seconded bX
Member Garland.
Discussions ensued on the nominations and Member Amey stood down from her nomination.
A vote was called to elect Member Laney for Vice -Chair, as motioned Motion passed
unanimously.
B. Approval of Minutes for April 18, 2013
Member Amey made a motion to approve the minutes for April 18 2013 seconded by Member
Lopez -Anderson. Member Lanev reyuested the minutes for the Workshop on April 18 2013
reflect she was absent excused. The motion to approve the minutes as amended passed
unanimously.
Chairman Ball welcomed everyone and explained the procedures for the hearing. He swore in
the officers and the complainant who were present.
HEARING OF VIOLATIONS
201300018204 Edgar Montero — Mr. Montero expressed his wish to continue with the hearing
and not abandon his appeal. Ofc. Peterson presented his evidence as to why a violation was
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issued to Mr. Montero on May 19, 2013 at approximately 1:40 a.m. He continued by saying he
checked the record and found two previous complaints, one on December 2, 2012, and another
on May 27. 2012, both within a 12 -month period. He also stated he spoke to Mr. Montero before
issuing him the violation; furthermore, Ofe. Peterson continued by saying when he arrived, he
could hear music playing and a party taking place. Member Amey asked if it was loud. Ofe.
Peterson replied he could hear the noise from the other side of the street, even when the party
was taking place in the back yard and Member Amey asked if what he heard was music to
which Ofe. Peterson replied yes. Vice -Chair Laney asked if Ofc. Peterson spoke with Mr.
Montero before issuing the notice of violation and Ofe. Peterson explained he initially met with
Mr. Montero's wife; she asked if she could turn the music down and he asked for her driver
license. Mr. Montero then came out with his driver license and Ofe. Peterson explained to him
there had already been two violations related to loud partying within a 12 -month period. City
Attorney Cookson asked Ofc. Peterson if the previous incidents had been violations or
complaints to which Ofe. Peterson replied those were complaints, and this was the third
incident. City Attorney Cookson asked if warning notices had been given at that time and Ofe.
Peterson replied the first one on May 27, 2012 was cleared as unable to locate or contact; the
next one on December 2 was cleared peace restored or problem corrected which would be
consistent with a verbal warning. Member Amey asked if the December 2 incident was related
to music as well and Ofe. Peterson replied yes, loud partying. Member Lopez -Anderson asked
if the clearance of unable to contact meant the officer was not able to speak to the homeowner
and Ofc. Peterson replied yes. Member Lopez -Anderson further asked if it was because no
one was home or because no one came to the door. Staff -Liaison Sgt. Wagner interjected by
saying it could mean that the officer was unable to locate the noise or that no contact was made
and since this is a generic clearance code the Police Department uses, without any notes, it is not
possible to determine what the situation was. Member Garland asked then if someone calls to
place a complaint without any basis, if there would be a record, even if unfounded, since it can't
be verified due to the clearance code and Ofc. Peterson replied it could be possible.
Discussions ensued on this matter. Vice -Chair Laney asked if during the December 2 incident,
the responding officer asked for identification, to which Ofe. Peterson replied he did not know.
Member Amey asked if it was on the record and Ofe. Peterson replied no because there was no
report written but a verbal warning was given; he doesn't believe Ofc. Jessica Jackson would
remember and furthermore explained Ofc. Steven's Bertrand responded to the other call but
apparently was not able to locate anyone. Member Amey continued by asking if two notices are
given before a violation is issued. then, in this case, is the second warning substantial. Ofe.
Peterson replied by saying the ordinance states, within a 12 month period, after the first
warning, a notice of violation can be issued; furthermore, all incidents occurred after midnight.
Mr. Montero then addressed the board and apologized for any inconvenience this may have
caused and continued by saying he is concerned because he was never notified of any prior
incident and this took him by surprise. He continued by saying that on May 27, 2012 he was not
home but his wife was; furthermore, his mother was terminally ill at the time and there would not
have been any parties and he knows that his neighbor had a party around that date. Had he been
aware of prior incidents, this would not be happening now. Vice -Chair Laney asked Mr.
Montero if, according to his written statement, nobody was home on December 2. Mr. Montero
replied he does not know but he can say he was not home and at that time his family was taking
turns in caring for his mother and also, he was working in Ocala at that time. Vice -Chair Laney
asked if he arrived later than 1:30 a.m. Mr. Montero replied he got home between 10:00 p.m.
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and 11:00 p.m. Vice Chair Laney then asked if he had arrived home on December 1 since the
incident happened on the early morning hours of December 2. Mr. Montero continued by
saying he recalls it was a Saturday. Member Garland asked Mr. Montero if he had notified his
neighbors of the party in May to which Mr. Montero replied he did not and also stated he
believed they had a gathering for his daughter's birthday. Member Amey asked if he recalled a
warning at that time to which Mr. Montero replied he did not. Lt. Dreasher interjected by
saying the record shows there was no contact at that time and Vice Chair Laney continued by
saying that in the December 2 incident at 1:33 a.m. the disposition is peace restored/problem
corrected but we don't have the officer's testimony. Member Garland further asked if it could
be possible the disposition of peace restored/problem corrected was due to no noise when the
officer arrived but Lt. Dreasher replied the disposition in such a case would have been
unfounded, and furthermore explained peace restored means the officer made contact and the
issue was resolved with no report written. Member Garland asked if it could be the officer
spoke to the neighbor who had called in the complaint since Mr. Montero denies ever having
been notified of previous complaints. Member Laney asked Mr. Montero if his backyard is
fenced but to a point where an officer could look in and Mr. Montero replied it is possible to see
the backyard. Discussions ensued on this matter. Member Laney asked Ofc. Peterson how had
he been able to contact Mr. Montero and Ofe. Peterson replied he had been in his patrol car
when Mrs. Montero came out with another gentleman and saw him. Member Garland asked if
the problem had been rectified when Ofc. Peterson left and Ofe. Peterson replied yes it had
been. Vice Chair Laney asked Mr. Montero that if, at any time during December, any of his
family members told him of a previous noise complaint to what Mr. Montero replied no. Vice
Chair Laney continued by asking if any of Mr. Montero's family members came over to use his
yard while he is away. Mr. Montero replied they did not due to his mother's illness. Member
Amey asked if Mr. Montero knew who complained and he replied he did know but did not
harbor any ill feelings. Member Garland asked Ofc. Peterson, if knowing what he knows now,
would he have still issued the violation and Ofc. Peterson replied yes because although the first
incident was cleared unable to contact, the second one indicates a verbal warning. Member
Amey asked if during a verbal warning is there any kind of paperwork that needs to be signed
and Ofc. Peterson replied there is not. Member Garland further asked if there is any kind of
log kept with verbal warnings to which Ofc. Peterson replied no; however, there is a narrative
area in the system for the purpose of adding notes but its use is not mandatory. Member Lopez
Anderson asked any there is any letter following a verbal warning where the ordinance is
explained. Ofc. Peterson explained the Ordinance is explained while on scene and pamphlets
are given at that time. Member Anderson -Lopez asked City Attorney Cookson if this would be
similar to the False Alarm Notices where a letter is sent out and City Attorney Cookson replied
that not every instance is the same and not every occurrence merits a letter. Discussions ensued
on this topic. Member Amey stated she is a little confused since there is no evidence of
warnings given. Lt. Dreasher interjected by saying if he performed a traffic stop on Member
Amey for speeding and gave her a verbal warning, there would not be evidence of a warning
either; the only record available would be the fact of the traffic stop taking place. Discussions
ensued on the difference between a verbal warning and a written warning. City Attorney
Cookson read into the record:
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§ 113-8. Enforcement.
B.
Except for violations of § 113-6.E, the person or persons responsible shall be
advised of any conduct prohibited herein by any City of Ocoee Police Officer
or any other person authorized by the Chief of Police to enforce the
provisions of this Chapter. After such warning, if any person shall continue or
repeat said conduct or similar conduct within 12 months after such warning,
then such person shall be issued a notice of infraction. No warning shall be
required with respect to a violation of § 113-6.E.
City Attorney Cookson stated that there seems to be no dispute over what occurred on May
2013 but the issue lies in if there was a prior warning within the 12 month period. If the board
determines there was a prior warning, then the issuance of the violation is in order; however, if
the board determines there was no prior warning, the issuance of the notice of violation is
probably not in order. Member Lopez -Anderson stated she had a problem with May 27, 2012
with the unable to locate/contact disposition. Member Laney agreed and furthermore added it
depends on if the board believes a warning was given on December 2, 2012.
A motion yeas rade by Member Arne y to grunt the appeal seconded by Member Anderson -
Lopez. Motion passed unanimously
Vice -Chair Laney thanked Officer Peterson for enforcing the ordinances and Lt. Dreasher
added that the Police Department will be changing the way calls are cleared in these cases to
include a better account of what happened. Discussions ensued on this matter.
Meeting Adjourned at 7:38 p.m.; board resumes for ordinance training.
ORDINANCE TRAINING
Lt. Dreasher began by saying he verified with the City Clerk's Office the need for Form 1 and
was told this board is exempt. Also, copies of the ordinances are provided for review by the
board members, for the purposes of general knowledge, and recommended these be added to the
notebook provided at the last meeting.
Chapter 48 Boats and Boating. This board will be concerned with hearing boat fishing
violations. There have been no recent violations but it pertains to rules to adhere to per State
Statute.
Chapter 124 Parks and Recreation. Lt. Dreasher explained this is a new ordinance pertaining
to park hours and noise violations at the parks. He continued by saying it also includes animal
rules, skateboards, smoking, among others. Member Garland asked about permits for after-
hours events at parks or if it includes ball games in progress and Lt. Dreasher replied the
permits are only for special events such as Founder's Day and these requests go before the
Commission for approval. He also stated he believed 124-6, Rules for Use of' City Parks and
Facilities, is what is relevant for the purposes of the Violations Hearing Board. Member Lopez -
Anderson asked if the new Community Center will be included in this ordinance. Staff Liaison
Sgt. Wagner added the ordinance reads "outdoors recreation". Discussions ensued on this
matter.
Chapter 153 Right -of -Way Utilization Permitting. Lt. Dreasher continued by saying section
153-7, Golf Carts on Public Streets, is what is of interest to this board and it covers anything
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from driving the golf cart in unauthorized places and driving the wrong way, to using oversized
tires or unlawful parking. Discussions ensued on this matter and golf cart accidents.
Chapter 164 Abandoned Property. Lt. Dreasher explained this new ordinance requires the
registration of property in financial distress or that has been foreclosed on to avoid squatters;
also, it holds the banks responsible for the upkeep of the property as well as providing a 24-hour
contact for the Police Department to verify lawful occupancy of the house. Member Lopez -
Anderson asked if this ordinance is in effect and Lt. Dreasher replied yes. He also added the
City has made $24,000 so far. Discussions ensued on the benefits of this ordinance.
Chapter 168-1 Parking Infractions. Lt. Dreasher continued by explaining these are the
ordinances the Chief of Police has determined will come before the board. There have been
discussions on other ordinances coming in front of the board but the Police Department will
make sure the board members are aware beforehand. The Noise Ordinance will be changing
soon because state laws changed, to include loud music coming from a vehicle, which will be
allowed. Board discussions ensued on this matter. Lt. Dreasher continued by saying once the
ordinance is changed. there will be more training. Also, the rest of the notebook contains
information on voting conflicts and the Sunshine Laws, that basically state board members
cannot discuss business outside public meetings. Member Amey asked Lt. Dreasher if the
Police Department had been able to address the issue with the squatters down the street from her
house. Lt. Dreasher replied reports were written and forwarded to the State Attorney's Office
but he did not now the disposition or if the State Attorney is moving forward. Board discussions
ensued on this matter. Member Anderson Lopez asked what happens if a property has been
foreclosed on and it has not been registered. Lt. Dreasher explained there will be a $500
violation issued after certain steps have been taken. Member Anderson -Lopez expressed her
agreement with this ordinance since now the banks are being held responsible and the City does
not have to spend more money. Lt. Dreasher continued by reminding the board members to
review the ordinances and Member Lopez -Anderson suggested these be posted on home
owners" association websites for people to be aware of. Lt. Dreasher stated there is information
in the City website on the Noise Ordinance as well as pamphlets. Board Discussions ensued.
V. BOARD OR OFFICERS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Vice -Chair Laney thanked City Attorney Cookson for his assistance. Lt. Dreasher also said
the board members will be getting new shirts with the new City logo. Member Lopez -Anderson
thanked member Garland for his service to our Country.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting Adjourned at 7:59 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted"
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Mad leine Ga a, -Recording Secretary
David Ball, Chairman.
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