HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ 02-13-1990 MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 1990
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Sims.
PRESENT: Chairman Sims, Vice Chairman Linebarier, Members:
Swickerath, Switzer, Bond, Weeks, Shiver, Alternates: Carroll,
Rhodus, Planning Director Behrens, and Secretary King
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Switzer added to Page 5, Paragraph 4 of the January
9, 1990 Planning and Zoning Minutes that he had called in and
left a message that he did support the project, but expressed
concern about the projects entrance and exit system and for the
city to look at the Highway 50 Study. There was a motion to
approve the January 9, 1990 Planning and Zoning Meeting minutes
and the addition from Mr. Switzer. The motion was seconded and
approved unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
411 ''" Prairie Oaks Subdivision - Final Engineering
Planning Director Behrens read the staff report. Mr. Eldon Ward,
Owner was present but had no comment. Chairman Sims opened the
public meeting. Mr. R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Blvd.,
Ocoee, Florida was present. He wanted to know the width and size
of the lots. Planning Director Behrens informing him that there
they were 70 foot wide lots and 8,000 square feet.
Vice Chairman Linebarier moved to recommend to the Board of City
Commissioners that the Prairie Oaks Final Engineering Plans be
approved, Commissioner Bond seconded, and approval was unanimous.
Chairman Sims questioned Mr. Ward on whether he had water taps,
and if he had purchased water capacity for his subdivision. There
was a brief discussion between staff and owner that this had not
been mentioned during the development review process, therefore,
Mr. Ward could not answer the questions. Mr. Sims stated to Mr.
Ward that he should contact the City Engineer (Jim Shira) to find
out if there is water capacity available.
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Silver Bend Subdivision - Final Engineering
Planning Director Behrens read the staff report. Chairman Sims
opened the public meeting and asked if there was anyone from the
audiance to speak on the issue. Mr. Sam Carr, McIntosh &
Associates, 2200 Park Avenue North, Winter Park, Florida was
present along with Jerry Feinstein the representative. Mr. Carr
made a correction to the staff report stating that the number of
lots should show as 182 lots on Final Engineering Plans. Also,
Mr. Carr stated that all issues had been worked out between the
City and the City's consulting engineering firm (Bill Fogle, The
Civil Design Group).
Vice Chairman Linebarier had a questioned about the Development
Agreement dated August 31, 1988, Paragraph 5 under "Water Supply
Capacity Improvements ". Is the City in the position to provide
water capacity? Mr. Jerry Feinstein stated to Mr. Linebarier
that water and sewer capacity has been on reserve for a long time
for this project. Mr. Feinstein stated that Mr. Shapiro has
stated several times that the physical transitions would be
available at the time when the subdivision is needed.
Mr. R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Blvd., Ocoee, Florida
questioned the recreational area for this project. Planning
Director Behrens stated that this subdivision does not have a
park, but the developer will pay the recreation impact fee. Mr.
Mohnacky stated that he does not like the idea of not having a
park in the subdivisions.
Commissioner Shiver moved to recommend to the Board of City
Commissioners to approve the Final Engineering Plans for Silver
Bend Subdivision, Commissioner Weeks seconded, Chairman Sims
declared a conflict and asked Vice Chairman Linebarier to call
for the question. Vice Chairman Linebarier called for the vote
and the motion was approved unanimously with the exception of
Chairman Sims that stated he had a conflict.
Good Homes Plaza - Final Engineering
Planning Director Behrens read the staff report. Mr. Behrens
stated that the City's consulting engineering firm (Bob Zaitooni
with GAI Consultants) was present.
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Chairman Sims opened the public meeting. Present was Rose Hill
Subdivision Homeowners Association's President Gretchen Jacobs,
9127 Queen Elizabeth Court, Orlando, Florida. Mrs. Jacobs stated
that the Homeowners are for the project and are pleased to see
the brick wall that the developer has said they will build to
divide the two properties.
Present was Mr. Walt Marquardt, A.G. Development Group, 1175
Spring Centre South Blvd., Suite 109, Altamonte Springs.
Commissioner Linebarier asked if the developer had anyone to
replace the gas station. Mr. Marquardt stated that they had not
yet replaced it.
Commissioner Bond moved to recommend to the Board of City
Commissioners to approve the Final Engineering Plans for the Good
Homes Plaza, Commissioner Weeks seconded and approval was
unanimous.
Westlake Subdivision - Phase III - Final Engineering
Planning Director Behrens read the staff report. Chairman Sims
opened the public meeting. Mr. R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake
Blvd., Ocoee, Florida questioned the recreation area. Mr.
Behrens stated that the developer will pay the recreation impact
fee. Mr. Don Tooley, LeCesse, 1420 W. Colonial Drive, Orlando,
Florida was present, he stated that City Manager Shapiro was
currently addressing the avaiability of water capacity for
Westlake. Mr. Tooley stated that lines have already been
expanded to the Westlake site for water and sewer. The lines
have been oversized for other future developments. Mr. Tooley
reasured the Board that the City Manager is aware of this project
and that they will be buying more water capacity.
Commissioner Swickerath moved to recommend to the Board of City
Commissioners to approve the Final Engineering plans for Westlake
Phase III, Commissioner Switzer seconded. Chairman Sims declared
a conflict and asked Vice Chairman Linebarier to call for the
question. Vice Chairman Linebarier called for the vote and the
motion was approved unanimously with the exception of Chairman
Sims that stated he had a conflict.
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Planning Director Behrens stated that the developer has worked
with the City and the latest example of this is a log split fence
errected on the jurisdictional line which delinates the wild life
area on Lake Lilly from the project. This was a recommendation
from Mr. Behrens and the developer followed through with it.
LaKenDon Commercial Subdivision - Final Engineering Plans
Planning Director Behrens read the staff report. The public
meeting was opened and the developers were present but had no
comment. Vice Chairman Linebarier questioned Michael Todd,
Project Engineer, McIntosh Associates, 2200 Park Avenue North,
Winter Park, Florida, if the agreement with Mal -Mart Shopping
Center had been consummated? Mr. Todd stated that the developer
was still negotiating the connection. He continued that what
they want to do is connect to the sanitary sewer system through
the Wal -Mart Shopping Center and obtain the necessary utility
easements from the Wal -Mart Shopping Center from the start of
constructon. If the connection is denied then the alternative
would be to reroute around to Highway 50.
r Commissioner Swickerath moved to recommend to the Board of City
Commissioners to approve the Final Engineering Plans for LaKenDon
Commercial Subdivision contingent upon and satisfying the City
Engineer for adequate sewer service, and let the developer
determine whether it goes through Wal -Mart or takes another
route. Commissioner Switzer seconded, approval was unanimous.
RECESS: 8:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER: 8:10 P.m.
OTHER BUSINESS
Highway 50 Study
Vice Chairman Linebarier commented to the Planning and Zoning
Commission that Ocoee had a Highway 50 Study which was done in
1986 or 1987. Commissioner Linebarier wanted to know how the City
could spend money and time on a study and then violate it once a
project is developed on Highway 50. Linebarier stated that the
curb cuts for Good Homes Plaza violates the Hwy. 50 Study. The
Highway 50 Study was completed before the Orange County Study was
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completed. Commissioner Swickerath stated that the Board of City
Commissioners did approve the Study but he was not sure that the
Study was adopted formally as apart of the City's comprehensive
plan. He suggested that staff search and re- examine what took
place to see if that is what the City wants to do on Highway 50.
Chairman Sims stated that he would like to start the next
Planning and Zoning Meeting in March an hour early so that the
Highway 50 Study can be discussed. Chairman Sims directed Mr.
Behrens, Director of Planning to obtain a copy of the Study, copy
each board member, and find out the status of the Study by
checking minutes and checking to see if it was a matter of
policy. Chairman Sims stated that maybe the City needs to
resolve to reinforce the Highway 50 Study.
Coneurrency Workshop
Chairman Sims stated that the workshop at the Colony Plaza on
Saturday, Feburary 3, 1990 was the first time he knew or had seen
that the City had an outside consultant. He found out later that
the City has access to a 12,000 dollar contract once a year for
consultation in regards to viewing the comprehensive plan. His
complaint was that nobody on the Planning and Zoning Board knew
about the outside consultant and wondered whether they should
have known. Mr. Behrens stated that he did not know about the
consultant until he was called into the City Manager's office and
was informed that Jim Larue was going to be the consultant on the
Capital Improvements and Concurrency.
Commissioner Swickerath stated for the record that the workshop
presentation was weak, shallow, and almost without substance.
Mr. Swickerath stated that he had a meeting with City Manager
Shapiro and found out that The States Competative Consultants
Negotiation Act did not have to be complied with legally, but the
intent of that act is to make sure that communities and public
bodies hire the best architect, engineers, and planners, and that
they interview them and rank them according to independ cost and
then try to negotiate a fee with the people. Commissioner
Swickerath stated that City Manager Shapiro indicated that he
called three or four firms, he shopped it and had the cheapest
one to come here. Mr. Swickerath stated that even if a
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consultant had a higher price maybe it would have been worth it
if they could have done a better job.
Commissioner Swickerath made a motion that the Planning and
Zoning Board request that the Board of City Commissioners direct
the City Manager to at least interview if not go through the
formal Competative Consultants Negotiation Act process before
obtaining other consultants. Mr. Swickerath also made a request
that the City Commission have one member from the Planning and
Zoning Board (concerning Planning and Zoning issues) as an
Official Member of that committee, seconded by Linebarier,
approval was unanimous.
For the record: the majority of the Planning and Zoning Members
were disappointed in the Saturday's meeting on concurrency, they
left the meeting with the opinion that the workshop was a waste
of time. Chairman Sims stated that he has attended a great deal
of speaches on concurrency and that this one was on the weak end.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Shiver moved to adjourn, seconded by Chairman
Switzer and approval was unanimous. The meeting adjourned at
8:40 p.m.
4Y H RMAN SIMS
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SECRETARY KING