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MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON
TUESDAY, APRIL 3, 1990
Mayor Dabbs called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and announced
that there was a quorum with all Commission members present.
commissioner Foster said the prayer and Mayor Dabbs led the pledge
of allegiance to the flag.
PRESENT: Mayor Dabbs, Commissioners Johnson, Foster, Combs, and
Woodson, City Attorney Woodson, City Manager Shapiro, City
Engineer/utilities Director Shira, Public Works Director Brenner,
and Deputy Clerk Resnik.
ABSENT: city Clerk Grafton and Director of Planning Behrens.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
civitan Awareness Week, April 9-15, 1990
Mayor Dabbs read the proclamation in its entirety in recognition
of "civitan International Awareness Week".
Day of Fasting and Prayer, April 13, 1990
Mayor Dabbs read the proclamation in its entirety in recognition
of a "Community Day of Fasting and Prayer".
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Law Day, U.S.A., May 1, 1990
Mayor Dabbs read the proclamation in its entirety in recognition
of a "special day to be observed by the American people in
appreciation of their liberties and independence and as an occasion
for rededication to the ideals of equality and justice under law".
Mayor Dabbs thanked the people in attendance for listening to the
reading of each of these proclamations and voiced his support of
these documents as being what he felt the Commission was all about.
CONSENT AGENDA
City Manager Shapiro asked that the Silver Glen item be removed
from the Consent Agenda as he needed to discuss the item with the
Commission. Mayor Dabbs pulled the item for discussion.
Commissioner Woodson moved to approve the rema1n1ng items:
approval of the minutes of the Commission meeting of March 20,
1990; approval of the Final Plat for Wesmere, Phase I; and approval
of the Letter of Engagement for James A. Fowler, Esq., Commissioner
Combs seconded, and approval was unanimous.
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city Manager Shapiro explained that the Silver Glen, Phase I,
Village 1 and 2 Plat was ready to be approved tonight but that
staff recommended that a Hold Harmless Agreement be required of the
developer since the retention ponds and median strip within the
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housing development would be owned by the city and maintained by
the homeowners' association. city Manager Shapiro said that the
development had an approved Development Order dated sometime either
in 1986 or 1987 that stipulated that a Municipal services Taxing
Unit would be created to maintain these areas but that the City had
no legal authority to establish such a taxing district. He said
a proposed solution was made by staff and agreed to by the
developer to have the homeowners' association be responsible for
"routine maintenance" of these areas and the city would own the
areas and be responsible for non-routine maintenance. City Manager
Shapiro said if the city Commission opted for the Hold Harmless
Agreement, then the motion should be to approve the Final Plat
subject to the city Attorney drafting an agreement and the
developer signing it.
Steve Mellich, CCL Consultants, engineers for the developer, said
the developer had no problem with signing an agreement that was
mutually acceptable to both parties. commissioner Woodson moved
to approve the Final Plat for Silver Glen, Phase I, village 1 and
2, Commissioner Foster seconded, and approval was unanimous.
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COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS/PUBLIC
sidney Rivard, 605 Jay street, Ocoee, said he was concerned with
the amount of new housing being developed in the city and was
worried about the traffic that these new developments would create
on the roadways in the city. Mr. Rivard asked how many
developments were planned. Mayor Dabbs said there would probably
be about 3000 rooftops just along Clark Road. Mr. Rivard said he
was concerned that the traffic and growth problems would get just
like they are in winter Park where he said some of the older people
are afraid to drive.
City Manager Shapiro told Mr. Rivard that growth would not be able
to burden the community because of new concurrency legislation that
would force a moratorium if the necessary infrastructure or
services were not put in place to handle the growth before the
growth occurred.
Mr. Rivard asked who would pay for the Clark Road project and city
Manager Shapiro said it would be funded half by developers and half
by impact fees. Mr. Rivard commented on the traffic problems that
would result from the new developments along Silver Star Road and
city Manager Shapiro responded that Silver Star Road was currently
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at about a "c" Level of Service and that Clark Road would be built
within the next 18 months and would free up a lot of the traffic
currently being handled by Silver star Road.
Mr. Rivard asked why the City was approving so many housing
developments and City Manager Shapiro said that the property owners
had property rights. Commissioner Johnson added that if the City
does not allow development, it will not get the tax money and that
the development would still occur but would occur in the county.
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Ileana Tripp, 2202 Essex Drive, Ocoee, said she was a relatively
new resident and was living in Coventry at Ocoee. Ms. Tripp
explained that she was a cyclist and asked about the possibility
of getting more bike paths in the City. Commissioner Combs said
the City was in the middle of establishing its Comprehensive Plan
and that the Traffic Circulation citizens' Advisory Committee was
meeting this Thursday at 7:30 p.m. in the community Center and that
Ms. Tripp may be interested in coming to the meeting and raising
this issue since this is the type of information they needed to
include in the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Combs suggested
to Ms. Tripp that she telephone city Hall and speak with Lisa
Claman, Associate Planner, in order to get involved with the
citizen Advisory Committee.
commissioner Foster said for informational purposes, that the city
currently had some 20 miles of sewer lines but only one-half mile
of bike paths and that something needed to be done to provide a
safe environment. commissioner Johnson added that the issue of
bike paths was raised at the public hearing on the widening of
Silver Star Road and that that was being considered as part of the
overall project.
Ms. Tripp also asked about beautification programs for park and
lake areas around the City and mentioned that the park by Coventry
was not maintained very well.
city Manager Shapiro admitted that the City has not done a good job
in maintaining its smaller parks but that it just did not have the
staff and another problem was that they were not all irrigated.
ci ty Manager Shapiro asked Ms. Tripp to telephone ei ther Ray
Brenner, Public Works Director, or Jim Beech, Recreation Director,
to work on getting the Coventry park cleaned up.
Ms. Tripp said that overall she was very happy living in Ocoee and
that the negative comments that she heard about the City were
unsubstantiated as far as she was concerned.
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SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING
Ordinance No. 90-08, Creatinq Chapter l8A of the Code of Ordinances
Entitled Late Niqht Businesses, Stores or operations; Establishinq
and Requirinq Certain Minimum security Measures to be Taken at
Certain Businesses, Stores or operations of a Commercial Nature
City Manager Shapiro read the ordinance by title only. Police
Chief Boyd then introduced Gainesville Police Chief Wayland
Clifton, Jr., who made a presentation on behalf of the ordinance.
Chief Clifton said that three years ago, the City of Gainesville
experimented with the "two clerk" ordinance and he believed it was
the first attempt of this type of ordinance in Florida and perhaps
in the nation. Chief Clifton said the Gainesville ordinance has
prevailed in federal court. He said the Ocoee ordinance was
similar to the Gainesville ordinance and he commended Chief Boyd
on his initiative to attempt to get an ordinance of this type
passed in the City.
Chief Clifton said he has been Chief of Police in Gainesville since
1985 and had been speaking to many cities since the "two clerk"
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ordinance in Gainesville was that convenience stores were easy
targets for criminals. He called the convenience stores "the poor
man's bank card" and said that criminals knew that convenience
store clerks had been trained to hand over money in the event of
a robbery. Chief Clifton said the robberies usually netted the
criminal $30-$50.
Chief Clifton said in 1986, with the infiltration of crack cocaine,
the convenience store robberies escalated and that 90% of the
stores had been robbed at least once. He said in one year in
Gainesville, there were 14 serious crimes and one homicide
committed against clerks in convenience stores.
Chief Clifton said Chief Boyd was attempting to get this ordinance
passed in Ocoee because Ocoee had also experienced crime problems
in this area. Chief Clifton commended Chief Boyd for proposing the
ordinance and for the City Commission for considering the ordinance
saying that it takes great courage to regulate a business; however,
the businesses would only be regulated during "peak crime times".
Chief Clifton said the Gainesville ordinance has been proof that
the "two clerk" mandate during "peak crime times" works. He said
in late 1986, early 1987, there were 61 armed robberies and 14
batteries involving convenience stores. Three years later, Chief
Clifton stated, there was a 92% decrease in store robberies during
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the "peak crime time" and a 74% decrease overall. He said during
that same period that the crack cocaine crisis has escalated crime
overall. Chief Clifton said the decrease in convenience store
crimes was done without assigning any extra police.
Chief Clifton also said that since the adoption of the "two clerk"
ordinance, there had not been any homicides or battery committed
nor any convenience store clerks injured since the ordinance was
enacted.
Chief Clifton said the City of Gainesville performed a study on ABC
Liquor stores versus the convenience stores since they thought that
these appeared on the outside as being similar establishments for
the criminal to approach to attempt a robbery. Chief Clifton
explained that a liquor store generally has much more money in its
cash register than does a convenience store but that there is
almost always more than one person working in a liquor store at
night during the "peak crime" period. He said this being one of
the only differences, it may explain why the liquor stores were not
more frequent targets.
Chief Clifton said the Gainesville ordinance also takes into
account lighting and sight distances for clerks. He said the
ordinance was actually put together with the help of criminals
insofar as asking them why they felt convenience stores were easy
targets and why they chose them over other establishments to rob.
Chief Clifton also talked about the Wilson study which he said the
convenience store industry usually cites when making the argument
against the "two clerk" ordinance. He asked the City commission
to listen very carefully if this study was ever presented to them
because the industry will not tell them that the ordinance does not
work, but that they will probably say there are other external
factors that have resulted in the lower crime rates.
Chief Clifton said that by using either the additional clerk or the
plexiglass the crime rate is reduced at no extra cost to the
taxpayer. He said some states are looking to adopt this or
something similar as state law.
commissioner Combs said as a business owner he finds it hard to
justify asking a small business owner to spend the money. He said
he understood what it means in saving lives but that it was still
hard for him to justify.
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Chief Clifton said this was a common concern but that in
Gainesville's case, no store had been forced to close because of
the increase in cost. Chief Clifton said that many stores already
had two clerks working in the store at the same time during the day
and that to solve the problem, they have merely adjusted the second
clerk's schedule and put that person in the store - for stocking
purposes or whatever - during the "peak crime period" in order to
satisfy the ordinance requirement. Chief Clifton added that in
regards to the extra cost to the businesses, that could be
addressed by stating that a price can not be put on the death or
serious injury of a person. He added that many businesses that
have added the second clerk have probably also reduced their
incidence of employee theft as well. Chief Clifton said the bottom
line is that public safety should outweigh the economic hardship
to the store owner.
Mayor Dabbs said that his concern was also from a standpoint of
regulating the businesses and asked what the charge was or the
topic of the lawsuit of which Chief Clifton spoke about earlier.
Chief Clifton said that the charge from the industry was that of
~ injunctive relief, that the ordinance should not be allowed to take
affect due to the economic hardship it would place upon these
businesses. He said the u.s. Federal District Court judge in
Gainesville ruled after three days of testimony that the public
safety outweighed the economic hardships of the businesses. Chief
Clifton added that this ruling took place before the city had the
evidence that it has today insofar as the statistics of reduced
crime.
Mayor Dabbs asked about the bullet proof enclosures and whether or
not they would withstand some of the guns available to criminals
today, and not just the .38 caliber that was mentioned. Chief Boyd
said that in these types of robberies, the .38 caliber is the most
likely to be used (or something less powerful). Chief Boyd said
this type of robbery is usually for a "quick fix" and that is why
they see these types of handguns. Chief Boyd also mentioned that
although the city of Ocoee had yet to experience the death or
severe injury of a convenience store clerk, this ordinance was
being presented in the hope of preventing this type of crime before
it happens.
Ralph Girvin, representing the Shell station at the corner of S.R.
50 and Maguire Road, said that although public safety is certainly
an issue, it will cost a small businessman like himself a lot of
money to bring his business into conformance with this ordinance.
Mr. Girvin said the cost would be more likely in the neighborhood
of $20,000 for an additional person, rather than the $9,000 that
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was stated in the information provided to the city commission. He
said this cost was for salary, benefi ts, etc. that would be
necessary and that he did not feel he could absorb these costs like
a larger chain convenience store operation could. Mr. Girvin said
that his store had experienced robberies in the past and that
probably the majority of them occurred when there were two people
on duty. He said usually the crime is shoplifting or a person
drives away without paying for gasoline. Mr. Girvin said that
although the Chief has the public good in mind and it is an
emotional issue, he did not feel that it needed to be addressed in
Ocoee since it had not shown itself to be a problem. Mr. Girvin
said if anything, that the city should not go to such an extreme,
especially for the smaller businesses that are not part of a large
chain. He suggested that the City might do something that is not
so much to such an extent or that the city may want to implement
a new law in steps, but not all at once.
Mr. Girvin said he had discussed this issue with County
Commissioner Bill Donegan and that there had been studies done on
New York city taxi drivers regarding knowledge of money available
~ within the cab. Chief Clifton said that Southland Corporation had
tried this for at least 10 years by posting signs on the doors of
stores that alerted people to the fact that there was only so much
cash on hand in the cash register and that the rest of the money
was in a safe that the clerks did not have the combination to. He
said this obviously has not worked since the Southland Corporation
was the second highest hit of the convenience stores in
Gainesville. Chief Clifton said that phasing the program also does
not work since other, less stringent methods, were first tried in
Gainesville but that they did not result in less crime committed
until the "two clerk" ordinance was established.
There being no further publ ic comment, Mayor Dabbs closed the
public hearing. city Attorney Woodson wanted to clarify several
things. First, he said, Chief Clifton said that the Ocoee
ordinance was based on the Gainesville ordinance. Attorney Woodson
said that Foley & Lardner had written the ordinance and tailored
it to Ocoee's needs. Attorney Woodson also wanted to mention for
the record that the judge who had ruled in the Gainesville case was
Judge Paul and that he was well respected and that this was proven
by that fact that there had been no appeal to his judgement.
Attorney Woodson also said that the Ocoee ordinance provides for
an alternative to the "two clerk rule" in that it allows for a
bullet resistent enclosure as an option to the additional clerk and
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Attorney Woodson said from a personal standpoint that he had lived
in and around Gainesville for about 15 years and that the
Gainesville ordinance was passed at a time when people were really
concerned about this issue. He also said that this ordinance
before the Ocoee City Commission was very supportable legally.
commissioner Johnson asked what the cost of the plexiglass
enclosure would be and Chief Clifton said he did not have this
information because the Gainesville ordinance did not provide this
alternative. He estimated that it would probably be about the cost
of an additional clerk for that year.
Commissioner Combs asked whether this public hearing of this
ordinance was advertised or sent to store owners/managers. city
Manager Shapiro said the ordinance was advertised just as the City
advertised every public hearing but that a special notice was not
sent to convenience stores. City Manager Shapiro added that the
issue had been the subject of a news story in the paper as well so
that people should have been aware of this public hearing.
~ Mayor Dabbs said that he may have had some constitutional issue
questions in his mind but that basically, Judge Paul had answered
them.
commissioner Foster moved to approve Ordinance 90-08, Commissioner
Woodson seconded, and approval was unanimous.
RECESS: 8:40 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER: 9 p.m.
OTHER BUSINESS
Authorization to Proceed with Final Design: Wastewater Plant #2
Expansion to 2 MGD - City Enqineer Shira and P.E.C.
City Engineer Shira said this item was asking the city commission
to consider an addendum to the contract that the city had with
P.E.C. in order to allow the firm to design the expansion of the
A.D. Mims wastewater treatment plant.
Dave Refling of P.E.C. presented the City commission with a
proposal that P.E.C. and staff had come up with for the A.D. Mims
plant site to expand the capacity from 1 MGD to 2 MGD. Dave
Refling said there were four methods of construction that they had
come up with as alternatives for the city to choose from:
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1. Rina Steel - Dave Refling explained that this was the
concept that Prima vista utilities originally
proposed.
2. Glass Fused Steel - Dave Refling explained that this
would wear better than the Ring Steel.
3. Precast Concrete
4. Poured-in-Place Concrete
Dave Refling explained that these were presented from least
expensive to most expensive (with Ring Steel being the least
expensive). He recommended to phase the construction to keep the
initial cost down, yet still providing the additional needed
capacity. Dave Refling recommended to combine some of the phases
and to start construction later this year. He said they have also
designed the contract to work with a golf course option if that in
fact materializes.
~ Dave Refling said the difference between the alternatives of Ring
Steel and Poured-in-Place Concrete was $2.9 million and $3.3
million respectively. He said the Poured-in-Place Concrete would
have a longer life span than the Ring Steel plant.
Dave Refling said they tried to keep it as simple as possible for
the commissioners and did not mention operation and maintenance.
He said they recommended the Poured-in-Place Concrete and that that
was the option most often done with these plants. Mr. Refling said
if it turns out that the City does not get enough money in from
reserved capacity sales, the bidding can be set up so that the
Precast Concrete alternative can work as a backup. He said the
City would get a little less quality in terms of longevity, but
that it would still be much better than the Ring Steel concept.
Dave Refling then showed the Commission an overview of the existing
and proposed Poured-in-Place Concrete and said that the Preliminary
site Plan was ready to go to the 2 MGD facility. City Manager
Shapiro said that he had acted as a "watchdog" over P. E. C. in their
bid and said it was one of the better prices he has seen. He said
the design fee was about 7-8%.
commissioner Johnson asked about the previous discussions the
Commission had had about moving the A.D. Mims Plant to the Chicone
tract. City Manager Shapiro said the move does not make sense and
that the remaining portion of the A.D. Mims site would be made into
a park site and would create a positive feature. City Manager
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Shapiro said the wastewater treatment plant had been handled much
better by the City than it had been handled when it was under
private ownership and he commended Wastewater supervisor Holland
for his efforts on beautification as well as the actual treatment
of the wastewater itself. He said he personally had not heard any
complaints from neighboring residents as of late.
commissioner Johnson said when the expansion begins, the complaints
from nearby residents will start again and he urged the staff to
do everything they could to make the facility attractive and
trouble free. He also said to make sure that the money for the
expansion includes landscaping provisions. city Manager Shapiro
said the landscaping would be done with City staff because it would
be less expensive. Commissioner Johnson also said to make sure
that operation and maintenance is provided for so that once the
landscaping is in place, there is money for upkeep. city Manager
Shapiro agreed that landscaping maintenance has been lacking and
that the City was trying to improve in this area.
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Mayor Dabbs asked if everything being discussed this evening went
along with the stipulation agreement of December 1987 and city
Attorney Woodson said it did.
commissioner Woodson asked if the pond in the southwest corner of
the property would be moved as the property owners had been
promised. City Engineer Shira said there would be modifications
to the pond and there were plans to install an underdrain in the
pond in a later stage but that the pond would stay where it was.
Dave Refling said there would also be a pump station put in that
would take some of the pressure off of the pond. City Manager
Shapiro added that some of the problems with the pond were caused
by poor maintenance and that Wastewater Superintendent Holland had
done a great job in improving this area.
commissioner Woodson asked about the photograph that was handed out
to Commissioners and city Engineer Shira said it was a plant
located in Mount Dora that was of similar design to the one that
P.E.C. was designing for Ocoee.
commissioner Combs moved to approve the authorization to proceed
with the final design of wastewater treatment plant #2,
Commissioner Johnson seconded, and approval was unanimous.
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Presentation of 1989 Annual Financial Report - Elden McDirmit
Elden McOirmit of McDirmit Davis & Company, P.A., the city Auditor,
said he had completed the audit for the year ending september 30,
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1989. He pointed out the fact that the Finance Department had been
awarded a certificate of Excellence in the highest standards and
that Ivan poston, Finance Director, and his department are to be
commended. Mr. McDirmit said the City had a total budget in excess
of $24 million. He said that the revenues had increased and the
expenditures had decreased and although these were not significant,
they were at least going in the right direction. Mr. McDirmit
reviewed some of the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report and
pointed out that on Page 5, the right hand column showed a
shortfall of $219,227 but that the End of Year Balance showed a
balance of $184,822 which meant that the city had made up the
deficit of the previous year. Mr. McDirmit said this could be
attributed to good management and that the city should be
commended.
Mr. McDirmit said the report went through revenues and expenditures
by fund through Page 9 and then Page 12-40 he did not review with
the Commission stating that it was "good reading for accountants".
Pages 40-55 he said were detail statements of funds and Pages 62-
83 were statistical data that gave an historic review of the City
tax base, revenues, and expenditures over the last 10 years. He
said this would probably be interesting for the commissioners to
read if they had not already done so.
Mr. McDirmit said Pages 84 and 85 was the Opinion Letter that
stated that the aUditing firm had studied the internal control and
that there were no material weaknesses to report on. He said the
last page of the document dealt with the laws and regulations that
the City needed to comply with and that there were no material
areas of noncompliance to report on; however, he did point out some
areas of general concern:
1. The City should consider a formal manual to establ ish
continuity and consistency.
city Manager Shapiro said that staff felt that the
manual should be done by an auditor and explained to
the City Commission that he had asked Mr. McDirmit
to provide a proposal for such a manual.
2. The City needs to ensure that staff provides adequate
documentation for travel and meal charges. Mr.
McDirmit said that charge slips need more information
on them such as who attended the meeting, what was
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the business discussed, and the purpose of the
meeting. He said this comment was due to the fact
that this was usually the highest scrutinized area.
3. The city needs to deal with outstanding checks in a
more expeditious fashion, whether this means writing
off bad debt or handling the matter through
collections procedures.
The city should consider interim financial reports,
especially for the utility revenue funds.
Developer Deposits
The City needs to have a backup system for its
computer system.
The uncollectible accounts receivable should either
be written off or sent to a collection company
There were slight over expenditures in the General
Fund and the Gas Tax Fund. Mr. McDirmit said
although there was excess money in the Funds, the
City should not spend more than it budgeted.
Mr. McDirmi t also recommended that the City consider hiring an
accountant because the City's financial report was getting more
sophisticated. Ci ty Manager Shapiro said that the accountant
position was in the mid-year budget request if funds were
available.
Mr. McDirmit said overall the City had made great progress and he
had sensed a much more positive attitude in staff during his time
spent at city Hall. He said he enjoyed working with everyone.
Ivan poston, Finance Director, added that it was a great relief to
have the financial report completed and he was glad to hear that
at least two Commissioners had already read the report.
Mayor Dabbs commended the city Manager and Finance Director poston
and staff for the fine work.
Good Homes plaza, A.G. Development Group - Appeal Impact Fees
city Manager Shapiro requested that the developer be allowed to
speak first and then staff would give its opinion. City Manager
Shapiro did add that he did not appreciate receiving the extra
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material that the developer handed out at the meeting, especially
because he had advised the developer, in writing, that the city
would need all such material ahead of time. city Manager Shapiro
first asked that the Commission wait until the next Commission
meeting to consider the item because of the lateness in receiving
the material but then rescinded his request.
Allen Goins, President of A.G. Development Group, said he would
withdraw the additional material, if necessary, rather than having
the item pulled from the agenda. Mr. Goins said it was background
information and not something that the commission was being asked
to vote on. City Manager Shapiro said he did not have a problem
with the material after looking at it briefly but stressed that
everyone needed to follow the same rules as far as submitting
material to the city commission in advance.
Mr. Goins said the purpose of addressing the Commission was not to
ask for a repeal of impact fees but rather for the Commission to
consider that at the time the developer placed a contract on the
land for the shopping center, the company did so with a certain
~ monetary amount in mind for impact fees and now those amounts were
significantly more than they planned for. He said in August the
developer made a proposal to its lender and that attempting to get
financing for this sort of project was very difficult in the
current real estate environment. He said lenders were especially
worried about project timing.
Mr. Goins said basically that staff had been very cooperative and
that it was one of the best staffs that he has worked with. He
said the City cooperated with the developer in that it allowed them
to combine Preliminary and Final Engineering approvals in order for
the proj ect to be completed in the time it needed to be for
financing reasons. He said at the January 4, 1990 Development
Review Committee meeting there were several items questioned by the
city's consulting engineer. Because of this, Mr. Goins said, the
decision was made on the part of the developer to revert back to
the two step process and to take the plan, as a Preliminary Plan,
through the Planning and Zoning commission and city Commission.
He said on January 16 the City Commission approved the Preliminary
Plan and at that same meeting, under a separate agenda item, the
increase to the transportation impact fee was also approved by the
commission. Mr. Goins said he did not actually find this out until
February 5 when he was told that his project would fall under these
higher fees.
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Mr. Goins said the pre-lease and outparcel sales are based on the
budget of the project set in the beginning. He said the impact on
the project as far as the increase in impact fees was as follows:
$516,000 (original impact fee amount) versus $752,000 (with the
increase); as well as the police and Fire impact fees that had also
recently been adopted bringing the total impact fee amount now to
$790,000. Mr. Goins said because of this, a shortfall has occurred
and that even though the developer could make some adjustments, it
could not make up for this substantial change.
Mr. Goins said that although his project had accumulated a 53%
increase in fees, he did find a possible source of recuperating
some of this loss by having the City issue credits for off-site
improvements as outlined in the Yeager Development Agreement in
section 2, Page 7. Mr. Goins listed some of the improvements that
he felt should be considered for credits: the additional lane on
Good Homes Road which he felt was for general public use, the right
turn lane onto Good Homes Road, going from two to four lanes
northbound, and the right hand turn southbound on Good Homes Road.
~ Mr. Goins said the traffic study they had done showed that only 16%
of the total peak afternoon traffic and zero percent of the total
peak morning traffic would be actually a result of the shopping
center, so peak traffic periods are not heavily attributed to this
project. He said he was therefore asking consideration by the city
for off-site credits for some of the improvements.
Mr. Goins read from the Developer's Agreement, Exhibit D,
Paragraphs 2.1 and 5.4 and asked for the city to recognize these
as off-site improvements, therefore allowing credits to be issued.
Mr. Goins said he felt that the developer had made a good faith
effort to work with staff and that to the best of his knowledge,
he had complied with what staff had requested. He restated that
he was now in the position of facing a 53% increase in fees and
although he wanted to be a responsible developer, he did not feel
that the credits should be overlooked. He also felt that as a
developer, they should have been given "reasonable warning" of the
increase in impact fees. He said he felt like a child in an ice
cream shop who is told that the ice cream costs a dime, but finds
after going home and getting the money, that the price has gone up
to 15 cents.
city Manager Shapiro said that the staff report handed out to the
Commissioners outlined that cities have reacted to shortfalls in
impact fees in different ways but that under the current
concurrency rules, the city was obligated to make sure the cost
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associated with growth was appropriate. He stressed that the city
was responsible for charging what needs to be charged and that that
is why staff recommended in the Development Review Committee
meeting to deny the request for a repeal of any impact fees.
City Manager Shapiro said that he was not aware of the Yeager
Developer Agreement until today and that staff would need to look
at the Developer's Agreement to see what the intent was and to see
what it had to say in regards to off-site improvements. He said
the staff needed the city Attorney's opinion on the intent of the
Developer's Agreement, especially in regards to signalization and
credits.
city Attorney Woodson said there were two issues being discussed:
1.
rollback or "break" on impact fees because of the
increase in the fee that occurred during the
development review of this project
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Attorney Woodson strongly supported staff's position
not to grant a reduction in fees. He said the study
done on the impact fee level and the process of
getting the new ordinance adopted was advertised.
He stressed that if the city gave back to one
developer, it would have to face the fact that other
developers who were in the same position would also
want consideration.
2.
credit for off-site improvements
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Attorney Woodson explained that the 1988 Developer's
Agreement addressed this and did stipulate that the
cost of signalization should be credited and the cost
was outlined in the bid. As for the other off-site
costs, Attorney Woodson said, the Developer's
Agreement said that credits should only be issued for
improvements that were considered off-site and not
for near site or on-site work. Attorney Woodson said
the city's Consulting Engineer stated that all
improvements being done by the developer are either
on-site or near site improvements and therefore
should not be credited. Attorney Woodson said the
developer's engineer (who Attorney Woodson said for
the record was a "well thought of firm") stated that
there were improvements that should be considered
off-site.
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Attorney Woodson said the city Commission should also
know that the Developer's Agreement also speaks to
access points for the project, however the developer
does not want to follow the Developer's Agreement to
the letter for this issue. Attorney Woodson said
this issue was also addressed in the verbatim
transcript of the Development Review Committee
meeting minutes that the Commission had received as
part of their packets.
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commissioner Foster said that he would like to see the City avoid
this (increasing the fees on current development projects without
the knowledge of the developer) in the future. He said he felt
morally obligated to stick with the first fee since it was an
unwritten agreement, so to speak. He said the developer thought
one thing when he decided to develop in the City and then was later
faced with something different.
City Manager Shapiro disagreed and said that this fee was due at
the time of building permit and was subject to change until that
point in time.
Mayor Dabbs said the City did not have a written contract with the
developer regarding impact fees. He said the Developer's Agreement
covered certain things and that the City would have to abide by
those things, but he did not understand Commissioner Foster's
reasoning when it came to the City having an obligation to the
developer regarding impact fees. He said under concurrency
legislation, the city has an obligation to make sure its fees are
adequate and to change them if they are not.
Mayor Dabbs said that the issue needing to be resolved seemed to
be whether or not the developer was providing any off-site
improvements and what credits that would possibly mean for the
developer.
City Manager Shapiro said that the Developer's Agreement states
that the developer would be allowed two cuts on Good Homes Road
(This Developer's Agreement was based on the entire tract owned by
Mr. Yeager which has now been subdividied into two tracts, of which
the Good Homes Plaza occupies one.) but that staff has no problem
with allowing the shopping center two cuts on Good Homes Road for
its project, in fact, staff feels that two cuts are necessary.
City Manager Shapiro said the Developer's Agreement also calls for
two cuts on State Road 50, although the staff had voted (in a very
close vote) to recommend that three cuts be allowed.
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City Manager Shapiro said he wanted to point out staff's position.
Mayor Dabbs said this showed him that staff was trying to cooperate
with the developer as Mr. Goins said earlier and that the developer
had received a fair hearing.
commissioner Foster asked what the concern was with publix about
having a convenience store on the outparcel and City Manager
Shapiro said that publix was one of the toughest anchors a
developer could have in a shopping center in that they want no
competition whatsoever and no buildings or signage blocking the
front of the store from the road. City Manager Shapiro said that
publix had recently begun efforts to keep banks out of the shopping
centers they were in because they were considering going into the
banking business and wanted no competition there either.
commissioner Combs explained that he would have to abstain from
voting because he was in the bidding process for the steel to be
used in building the shopping center.
~ Commissioner Woodson asked for clarification as to what the
Commission was being asked to vote on. City Manager Shapiro said
the Commission would need to decide whether to allow staff and the
developer to work out the issues regarding cuts and credits and
whether they wanted, as a commission, to make sure that certain
things were made a part of this process. ci ty Manager Shapiro said
in that way, this would not have to come back before the City
Commission again.
commissioner Johnson said he would like to know about the distances
between cuts on State Road 50. City Manager Shapiro said the cuts
meet DOT standards. Attorney Woodson said the Developer's
Agreement denoted specific distances between cuts on State Road 50
and he thought he remembered them as being 400 and 800 feet.
commissioner Johnson moved to deny the appeal presented by the
developer for a reduction in impact fees and to go back to the
original Developer's Agreement to determine whether the developer
was owed any credits, Commissioner Woodson seconded, and the motion
passed with a 4-0 vote with Commissioner Combs abstaining.
water/sewer capacity Developer Agreements
Attorney Woodson said the City held the capacity sale last month
and that these are the developer agreements for water and sewer for
~ each developer. Attorney Woodson explained that there were two
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other developers who were still working on developer agreements
with the City and that those agreements would be forthcoming at a
subsequent Commission meeting.
Attorney Woodson said that all together, there were $160,000
collected in water capacity fees and $476,000 in sewer capacity
fees. He explained that unlike the Letters of Credit that were
accepted at the previous sale, cash was the only means available
this time.
Attorney Woodson suggested that the motion should be to approve all
ten (10) of the developer agreements (all in one motion) and to
authorize the Mayor to execute them. Commissioner Combs made that
motion, Commissioner Foster seconded, and the motion passed 4-0
(Commissioner Johnson was out of the room). The Developer
Agreements approved were as follows: Centex, Water and Sewer;
Skylark, Water and Sewer; LaKenDon, Inc., Water and Sewer;
Whitehill Group, Ltd., Water and Sewer; and FHB Development Corp.,
Water and Sewer.
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STAFF REPORTS
City Manager Shapiro stated that there were no additional staff
reports to be made at this time.
COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Combs asked the City Manager to look into getting the
roadway striped at the corner of McKey and Bluford by D.J. Auto
Sales.
Commissioner Combs also mentioned that with the advent of year
round schools, he would like the City to look into the possibility
of some sort of "baby sitting" for lack of a better word, so that
children would not be left at home alone during those periods of
time when school was on hiatus. He suggested that perhaps the
City's Recreation Department could have something for the children
during the two week periods that the children had off from school.
City Manager Shapiro said he would look into it but that he would
like to see a program of this nature pay for itself by charging
those people who use the service. He said he would bring it up
during the budget process.
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Commissioner Combs also mentioned that he was stressing voter
registration and that as a member of Kiwanis, this club had
membership drives to encourage people to register as well.
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He also wanted to mention that Cablevision had raised the rates
again. City Manager Shapiro said he would put this on the next
agenda and ask a representative from the company to attend to
explain the need for an increase.
commissioner Combs said he had spoken with Chief Boyd about bullet
proof vests in light of the recent happenings and asked whether the
City could mandate the use of these vests since it provides one for
every officer. City Manager Shapiro said the City does purchase
one for every officer but was unsure as to whether the City could
force the officers to wear them. Chief Boyd said the City could
enforce this since it purchases one for each officer. City Manager
Shapiro said he was against mandating the use of vests and that
there was a difference of opinion amongst police officers as to the
pros and cons of wearing vests.
Commissioner Combs reminded staff that they were to get with the
boyscouts about doing odd jobs for the City and that Mr. Coleman
had still not been contacted. City Manager Shapiro said he would
handle it.
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commissioner Combs let everyone know that there was a possibility
that a golf course could be developed in Ocoee and that the bankers
were scheduled to come to the city in a few weeks to meet with City
staff.
commissioner Foster thanked the City Manager and the Code
Enforcement Officer for taking care of the problem he had talked
to them about in Pioneer Key Park. He asked that the City continue
to monitor this.
commissioner Foster also said that he wished the City Engineer did
not have to leave the meeting early because he needed help setting
his watch ahead and he figured that City Engineer Shira could
figure out how to do it.
commissioner Woodson reminded everyone to send in their Census
forms if they had not already. He also mentioned his desire to
have all new developments in the City have an Ocoee address.
Commissioner Woodson also read a memorandum that the City Clerk had
written in anticipation of her being at a City Clerks' conference
as he thought it was very witty.
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Commissioner Johnson asked Chief Boyd how Lt. William Walker was
doing after hearing he had recently had a heart attack. Chief Boyd
said they were running some tests and that he may need to have
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surgery. Commissioner Johnson told Chief Boyd to let Lt. Walker
know that the City was thinking of him.
Commissioner Johnson said that the City Commission had verbally
agreed to cover any outstanding expenses that the Lions Club
incurred as a result of the 1988 Christmas Parade. He said this
had slipped through the cracks but that he thought the Commission
should stand by its word. Commissioner Johnson moved to approve
the payment of $1,500 to the Ocoee Lions Club to come out of the
City'S contingency fund, Commissioner Combs seconded, and approval
was unanimous.
commissioner Johnson also said that during the mid-year budget
review, the City needed to look at its labor force to make sure it
had the necessary personnel to maintain areas within the City such
as parks and landscaping, otherwise the City should not bother to
put in landscaping in the first place.
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There was also a comment about Dominos Pizza parking on a dirt lot
and the City Manager said he would alert the Code Enforcement
Officer to the problem immediately as he too had noticed this.
Mayor Dabbs asked about the broadcasting system for the Commission
chambers. City Manager Shapiro said it was not budgeted for but
that a sound system was in the Capital Improvements Plan for next
year or the year after. Mayor Dabbs said he has been told by his
wife and children that it is very difficult to hear anyone other
than the Commissioners themselves.
Mayor Dabbs said he had received a call asking about a new policy
regarding burial plots that the City Manager had devised. City
Manager Shapiro said he had originally told this person he was
going to take a policy to the City Commission for approval but
after considering it, he felt it would be better handled on a case
by case basis. He added that this is not uncommon for cities who
own cemeteries.
Mayor Dabbs said he had received a letter regarding voter
registration yesterday and had turned it over to the City Manager
to give to one of the civic organizations.
Mayor Dabbs said the FLC's Legislative Action Day was scheduled for
May 2. ci ty Manager Shapiro recommended that the Commissioners all
fly since it is such a long drive there and back in one day. City
Manager Shapiro said the program runs from 10 a.m.-4 p.m. and that
~ it is a good four (4) hours drive each way. He said if the
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Commissioners decided to drive, they would have to leave around 5
a.m. and would not get home until 10-11 p.m.. City Manager Shapiro
requested that each Commissioner call Fran Gosnell at City Hall and
let her know if they plan to attend and whether they would rather
fly or drive.
Commissioner Johnson said that the City could ask Cablevision to
attend the next Commission meeting, but that it would probably be
a waste of time since they would probably give the same story they
always do. City Manager Shapiro said that Telesat had done some
work in the eastern portion of the City but that he had not heard
anything else from the company. He said the City can not stop a
company from raising its rates.
ADJOURNMENT: 11 p.m.
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ATTEST:
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FORM 88 MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT FOR
COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, AND OTHER LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS
! \',TNAi\IE FIRST NAME MIDDLE NA:\IE NAME OF BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY. OR COMMITTEE
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!,-" Combs, Vern City of Ocoee Board of City Commissioners
,\IAILlNG ADDRESS rHE BOARD. COUNCIl., COMMISSION, AUTHORITY, OR COMMITTEE ON
WHICH I SERVE IS A UNIT OF:
150 N. Lakeshore Drive XCITY COUNTY : : OTHER LOCAL AGENCY
CITY COUNTY
Ocoee, FL 34761 Orange NAME OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISION:
City of Ocoee
DATE ON WHICH VOTE OCCURRED MY POSITION IS:
April 3, 1990 x ELECTIVE APPOINTIVE
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WHO MUST FILE FORM 88
This form is for use by any person serving at the county, city, or other local level of government on an appointed or elected board,
council, commission, authority, or committee. It applies equally to members of advisory and non-advisory bodies who are presented
with a voting conflict of interest under Section 112.3143, Florida Statutes. The requirements of this law are mandatory; although
the use of this particular form is not required by law, you are encouraged to use it in making the disclosure required by law.
Your responsibilities under the law when faced with a measure in which you have a conflict of interest will vary greatly depending
on whether you hold an elective or appointive position. For this reas.on, please pay close attention to the instructions on this form
before completing the reverse side and filing the form.
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INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 112.3143, FLORIDA STATUTES
ELECTED OFFICERS:
A person holding elective county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which inures
to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the special
gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he is retained.
In either case, you should disclose the conflict:
PRIOR TO THE VOTE BEING TAKEN by publicly stating to the assembly the nature of your interest in the measure on
which you are abstaining from voting; and
WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE VOTE OCCURS by completing and filing this form with the person responsible for recording
the minutes of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
APPOINTED OFFICERS:
A person holding appointive county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which
inures to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the
special gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he is retained.
A person holding an appointive local office otherwise may participate in a matter in which he has a conflict of interest, but must
disclose the nature of the conflict before making any attempt to influence the decision by oral or written communication, whether
made by the officer or at his direction.
IF YOU INTEND TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION PRIOR TO THE MEETING AT WHICH
THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN:
'-"'.1 should complete and file this form (before making any attempt to influence the decision) with the person responsible for
recording the minutes of the meeting, who will incorporate the form in the minutes.
· A copy of the form should be provided immediately to the other members of the agency.
· The form should be read publicly at the meeting prior to consideration of the matter in which you have a conflict of interest.
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IF YOU MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION EXCEPT BY DISCUSSION OR VOTE AT THE MEETING:
. You should disclose orally the nature of your conflict in the measure before participating.
. You should complete the form and file it within 15 days after the vote occurs with the person responsible for recording the minm:..."J
of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
DISCLOSURE OF STATE OFFICER'S INTEREST
I,
Vern Combs
, hereby disclose that on
April 3
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(a) A measure came:nr=wiitI:am~ before my agency which (check one)
----XX- inured to my special private gain; or
_ inured to the special gain of
, by whom I am retained.
(b) The measure before my agency and the nature of my interest in the measure is as follows:
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DISCLOSURE CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:
17vlPEACHMENT, REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION IN
SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $5,000.
CE FOR'.l 88 - 10-86
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