HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-20-2014 Minutes THE CITY OF OCOEE
VIOLATIONS HEARING BOARD MEETING MARCH 20, 2014
CALL TO ORDER
Member Ball called the Violations Hearing Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the
Commission Chambers of City Hall and led the Pled of Allegiance to the Flag. The roll was
called and a quorum declared.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Members Amey, Garland, Laney, Lopez-Anderson, Ball, and
Zielinski (late arrival).
ALSO PRESENT: Lt. Dreasher, CSA Sulkowski, and Recording Clerk Garza.
Chairman Ball welcomed everyone and explained the procedures for the hearing. He swore in
the officers and the complainant who were present. (Member Zielinski arrived at 7:02 p.m.)
HEARING OF VIOLATIONS
201400001230 Bhavinder Tuteja— Mrs. Tuteja expresses her desire to continue with the hearing
and not abandon her appeal. CSA Sulkowski presents his case as to why a violation was issued
to Mrs. Tuteja on January 10, 2014. While on patrol at the Forestbrooke subdivision, he
observed a vehicle parked opposed to traffic with the left side wheels next to the left side curb
and, per Florida State Statutes and the City Code, the right wheels must be next to the right side
curb; he continues by showing the pictures of the vehicle and license plate and by stating this
happened in the City of Ocoee, Orange County. Vice-Chair Laney asks CSA Sulkowski if there
is any record of a warning given before the violation was issued and CSA Sulkowski responds
by saying he does not give warnings for vehicles parked opposed to traffic but is unaware if
other officers did, or if any were given before. Mrs. Tuteja addresses the board members by
saying she has lived in the City of Ocoee for six-and-a-half years and has parked her car in the
same direction in other occasions just as other neighbors do. She had been in the hospital, came
back home to find the violation, and wondered why did she not get a warning since she did not
know she was not supposed to park opposed to traffic. Mrs. Tuteja continues by saying she now
parks in the direction of traffic. Member Amey asks how often does this type of occurrence
happen to which CSA Sulkowski responds he does not have an actual number but this happens
all over the city; Member Amey asks CSA Sulkowski if he always writes tickets and he replies
yes because the Florida State Driver's Handbook states vehicles must park with the flow of
traffic. Lt. Dreasher interjects by saying it is Florida State Statute. Member Garland asks
Mrs. Tuteja how long has she had her Florida Driver's License and she replies she has had it for
twenty-two years; Member Garland also asks Mrs. Tuteja if her house is the one to the left of
the two vehicles and she replies yes. Member Garland continues to ask Mrs. Tuteja how
many vehicles does she have and she replies five, one is parked in the garage, two on the
driveway, and two on the street; she adds that many other people in her neighborhood park the
same way. Vice-Chair Laney asks if several people park opposed to traffic at the neighborhood
to which Mrs. Tuteja replies yes; the people across the street park opposed to traffic. Member
Garland points out that one of the pictures shows a vehicle parked the correct way across the
street but Mrs. Tuteja says the vehicles parking opposed to traffic are the ones right across the
street from her house. Member Amey asks Mrs. Tuteja if she was aware that parking opposed
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to traffic was against the law and if she remembered from when she took her driving test; Mrs.
Tuteja replies if she had known she would not have parked opposed to traffic. Member Lopez-
Anderson says this is a problem throughout the city, including areas clearly marked as no
parking zones, where people still park and believes it a good idea to send reminders via the
Homeowners Associations but it is still Florida law. Vice-Chair Laney would like to see
warnings given before a ticket is issued and Member Lopez-Anderson says even when
warnings are given, people do it again. Member Garland adds this is the same issue as with the
red light cameras, even if there is not a camera at every intersection, you must follow the law and
stop.
Member Garland made a motion to deny the appeal, seconded by Member Zielinski.
Mrs. Tuteja addresses the board members and tells them she is currently not working because
she has had two surgeries and wishes she would have gotten a warning because she did not know
it was against the law. Vice-Chair Laney asks if it is possible to waive any extra fees to which
Lt. Dreasher replies it is not allowed per City ordinance. Discussions ensued on this matter.
Chairman Ball continues by saying the board is set to determine whether a violation of the City
ordinance occurred or not, and paragraph 168-4, section A15, clearly states vehicles must be
parked in the direction of traffic. Furthermore, the ordinance does not state a warning is
required. Member Lopez-Anderson continues by saying the board does not have the authority
to waive the fees and Lt. Dreasher adds that a payment plan can be set up after the hearing.
A vote was called and the motion to deny the appeal passed 5-1, with Vice-Chair Laney voting
against.
REGULAR AGENDA
A. Approval of Minutes for June 20, 2013
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Laney to approve the minutes for June 20, 2013, seconded by
Member Lopez Anderson. Motion passed unanimously.
B. Election of Chairperson
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Laney to nominate Chairman Ball for Chairperson, seconded
by Member Amey. Motion passed unanimously.
C. Election of Vice Chairperson
A motion was made by Member Garland to nominate Member Laney for Vice Chairperson,
seconded by Member Amey. Motion passed unanimously.
V. BOARD OR OFFICERS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Member Lopez-Anderson addresses the board regarding the red-light camera violations and
how these were previously heard by the Police Infraction Hearing Board and then by the County
Clerk of the Court, but the next thing she knows, the violations are now heard by Fred Wilsen;
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she continues by saying she would have liked for the board to be notified and involved in the
process, and also asks what was the City thinking when this decision was made. Lt. Dreasher
replies the City had no control over this process; state legislature ruled there are now two ways to
contest red light camera violations; if a person receives a notice of violation for $158.00, one of
the options is to contest it, but the hearing has to be held locally and not at the county court. If
the person, after the provided 60 days, does not pay, contest, or submit an affidavit, then the
violation becomes a uniform traffic citation for $262.00; this can be contested as well, but at the
county court. The new law provides for the local hearings to be presided by a local member in
good standing with the BAR Association as well as a certified hearing officer. Because there
was such a small window of time to comply, the City followed the process, consulted with the
City attorney, and executed a contract with the current hearing officer; it is a one year contract
and before it is due to expire, there will be an open bid. Member Lopez-Anderson continues by
saying she believes Mr. Wilsen to be and upstanding person but since he is the spouse of a City
commissioner, the City should do everything to avoid these kinds of situations. She adds she
was appalled by this decision. Lt. Dreasher also adds that the City Commission approved it and
the Police Department had no control over any of it. Member Lopez-Anderson replies the red-
light camera topic is controversial as it is and this issue just makes it more so; she wants this to
be on the record. Member Amey adds she agrees because it is a conflict of interest. Vice-Chair
Laney also agrees and was very surprised to hear of this in the news and thinks it would have
been better to let the board members know. Lt. Dreasher stresses the issue there was a very
short window of time to get this done. Furthermore, he explains, initially the City had thought
about using the hearing officers at the county court but they are not able to hold both seats. He
continues by explaining that when the law first came out, the City was able to use the Police
Infraction Hearing Board and other locations used their Code Enforcement Boards or hired
hearing officers; the City of Ocoee was the only city with red light cameras in the country using
a board to hear the cases; Tallahassee made some changes to the law today but because of the
hearings, he was not able to go online to hear what the changes are. The state is recommending
the fines be lowered, municipalities get zero dollars, and the state get everything; municipalities
can choose to have hearings but all moneys go to the state, and the city can only charge enough
to cover the cost of the hearing. This means the cities would not have enough money to pay the
vendor; the City is currently paying the vendor approximately $45,000.00 a month. Vice-Chair
Laney states this situation would be the end of the program and Lt. Dreasher adds the City
currently pays the vendor $4,700.00 per camera per month and there are eight cameras;
furthermore the City also has to pay for certified mail, four dollars per piece, and two dollars per
any subsequent mailings. Member Amey asks where is the City coming up with the funds to
pay all of these expenses and Lt. Dreasher replies the money comes from the use of the
cameras; the City makes, after paying the vendor, $30,000.00 to $35,000.00 a month. Member
Zielinski asks if the cost of the violation is $158.00 to which Lt. Dreasher replies yes and the
City gets $75.00 from which to pay expenses. Member Zielinski asks where the remaining
$75.00 go and Lt. Dreasher replies to the State of Florida. Member Lopez-Anderson asks
when does the one year contract expire and Lt. Dreasher replies he does not have the exact date
with him but he believes it was executed in September of 2013; Vice-Chair Laney asks how
does the hearing officer get paid and Lt. Dreasher replies he gets paid a minimum of$500 and if
the hearings extend for more than five hours, he gets paid an additional $100. Member Amey
asks what the required qualifications to become a hearing officer are and Lt. Dreasher replies
the person has to be a member in good standing with the Bar Association. Member Zielinski
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asks what will happen if the bill passes and Lt. Dreasher replies the City Commission will have
to make a big decision, but most cities agree that if the bill passes, it will be the end of the
program. Member Lopez-Anderson asks if the bill passes and the cities get zero dollars, will
the City owe money to the vendor and Lt. Dreasher replies there are clauses in the contract to
cover this. Discussions ensued on the contract and the law. Member Zielinski asks where the
$30,000.00 the City gets from the cameras go and Lt. Dreasher replies to the general funds and
used for street improvements and such. Discussions ensued on how many cameras are there in
the city and the locations. Lt. Dreasher adds some of the cameras also serve to help solve
crimes and help monitor who comes and goes in and out of the City. Discussions ensued on the
red light law and how "careful and prudent" applies. Lt. Dreasher continues by informing the
board about Sgt. Wagner's promotion to Lieutenant and how he will now be supervising patrol.
Lt. Wagner attended a county meeting yesterday regarding noise ordinances and how to make
them uniform; some cities use a very expensive device to measure noise in decibels. The City
does not use such a device but if the noise bothers the neighbors, that means it's a problem; there
have been a few complaints against Frank's place lately. Member Lopez-Anderson continues
by saying she was surprised it was allowed considering the assisted-living facility in close
proximity. Lt. Dreasher explains Frank's Place thought it had an exemption but a warning was
given that if it continues to happen, a noise ordinance violation will be issued. Lt Dreasher
furthermore explains the noise ordinance is being reviewed to make it more uniform across the
cities. Discussions ensued. Vice-Chair Laney asks if warnings are required in other cities
before a violation is issued and Lt. Dreasher replies absolutely not; probably the new ordinance
will not require a warning either. Member Garland asks if the Police Department is keeping a
better record of warnings and Lt. Dreasher replies officers are required to type any information
in the note section of the calls for service; he adds the Police Department is now implementing
paperless reporting by which officers type reports electronically as they happen and makes the
process more efficient. Member Amey asks about the vehicle radio noise and Lt. Dreasher
states it is allowed per state statute. Discussions ensued regarding this topic. Vice-Chair Laney
asks is if it is possible to issue warnings before issuing a parking citation, maybe even getting the
Homeowners Associations involved; Lt. Dreasher replies the line has to be drawn somewhere
and also adds parking opposed to traffic is against the law in all 50 states. Discussions ensued.
Lt. Dreasher reminds the board that CSA Sulkowski and CSA Michaelis opt to write the city
parking ticket for $40.00 as opposed to the state parking ticket that is $129.00; he adds the Police
Department encourages officers to write the city ticket. Member Garland asks if it is at the
discretion of the officer and Lt. Dreasher replies yes it is.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting Adjourned at 7:53 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Ma lei e rza, Record' Secretary David Ball, Chairman.
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