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MINUTES OF THE OCOEE BOARD OF CITY COMMISSIONERS REGULAR MEETING HELD
FEBRUARY 4, 1992
The regular meeting of the Ocoee Board of city Commissioners was called to order
at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Dabbs in the commission chambers. Commissioner Woodson led
in the prayer and pledge of allegiance. The roll was called and a quorum
declared present.
PRESENT: Mayor Dabbs, Commissioners Combs, Foster, Johnson, and Woodson. Also
present were City Manager Shapiro, City Attorney Rosenthal, City
Engineer/Utilities Director Shira, Administrative Services Director Beamer,
Public Works Director Brenner, Planning Director Behrens, and Ci ty Clerk Graf ton.
ABSENT: None
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS - None
CONSENT AGElfDA
The proposed consent agenda consisted of items A, B, C, and D. Commissioner Combs
asked for clarification on the location of the traffic light referred to in the
maintenance agreement in item D. City Engineer Shira advised that it was located
at the intersection of Geneva Street/Bluford Avenue and should be installed the
end of this year.
C.
Acceptance and Approval of Minutes of Regular Commission Meeting of
January 21, 1992~
Acceptance and Authorization to Execute Acknowledgement of
Satisfaction of Obligations Under Development Agreement with ZOM
Silver Gle~, Ltd. (Clark Road).
Approval and Appointment of Charles Michael Reed to Fire/Police
Pension Board ._
Approval and Authorization to Execute D.O.T. Traffic Signal
Maintenance and Operation Agreement for Bluford/Geneva/Story Road.
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B.
D.
Commissioner Combs, seconded by Commissioner Woodson, moved to approve the
proposed consent agenda as presented. Motion carried with unanimous vote in
favor.
COKKENTS FROM CITIZENS/PUBLIC
Mr. R.P. Mohnacky, 1820 prairie Lake Boulevard, referring to an item on a
previous agenda regarding the selection of an engineering firm, suggested that
the engineers chosen by and for Orange County projects could be used for the City
projects to save money. City Manager Shapiro explained that we get a lot of
information from the County but the specifications for their projects do not
include all the information we need to have in our system, therefore it is
necessary to select our own project engineers.
PUBLIC HEARINGS - none
OTHER BUSINESS
Discussion regarding Hackney-Prairie Road
Ci ty Manager Shapiro explained that when Sawmill and also Burnden Park were under
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It was also agreed that a crash gate should be placed at the end of Rich Drive
for emergency vehicle use until the time for Hackney-Prairie Road to be paved.
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Mr. Shapiro noted for the record that in the written staff report, Planning
Director Behrens pointed out that Forest Oaks was approved as a project with two
entrances (one of which is Rich Drive onto Hackney-Prairie Road) and that
developer has contributed $60,000 to the paving of Hackney-Prairie Road; Sawmill
is responsible for the paving of that portion of Hackney-Prairie Road from their
southern access point to Hackney-Prairie Road to that road's intersection with
Apopka-Vineland Road; Burnden Park is responsible for paving Hackney-Prairie Road
from that development' s western boundary to its eastern boundary as well as
paying their pro-rata portion of the paving cost from their eastern boundary to
Apopka-Vineland Road; and prairie Lake PUD will finish the paving of Clarke Road
from their northern property line to Ocoee-Clarcona Road in lieu of contributing
to the paving of Hackney-Prairie Road. The County recently held a public hearing
to address the issue. At the hearing some city residents from Forest Oaks
Subdivision voiced concerns about the paving of Hackney-Prairie Road, asking that
the paving not be done. The County has continued their public hearing until
February 11, 1992 in order for this Commission to answer residents' questions.
The following citizens spoke regarding their areas of concern, and the response
they received from Commission and Staff is underscored:
Ms. Gayle Monta, 8591 Hackney-Prairie Road, Orlando, 32818 spoke for county
residents.
1. How many and how large are the units in Burnden Park? 93 single family
residences, 12 to 14,000 sq. ft.
Has a traffic study been done and how many average
household from Burnden Park, Sawmill, and Forest Oaks
Yes; None from Sawmill as they will n~ to Clarke Road;
per household is the normal.
Asked that a representative of Ocoee have this information ready for the
County meeting February 11.
City Manager Shapiro pointed out that the paving of this road is included in the
Comprehensive Plan and has been approved by the County and State. City Attorney
Rosenthal said that in his opinion the County could not legally deny the
developers the approval to construct Hackney-Prairie Road based upon their August
1989 action and the developer's agreements which have been entered into by the
City. The approval was conditioned on certain things being done and those things
have been done. The only remaining thing to be approved by the County is the
final approval of the construction plans, which they had reserved a right to in
order to avoid confusion.
4. Has the speed limit for the road been determined? Rural country road
speed limit is 45 mph. unless otherwise directed by the County.
Where will the city workers park? Mrs. Monta expressed concern for the
high speed limit. Workers can park inside the fence and the speed limit
~ay be less than that.
How will the traffic and the needs of the workers be handled? There will
not be a turn lane for the people going into the water plant, the fence
will be moved if need be to give the workers a space ~ull off the road
before opening the gate.
Will there be a traffic light at the end of Hackney-Prairie Road? Not
expected to be warranted at this time. It is in the design if needed.
Why pave the road now before Clarke Road is finished? We have a developer
agreement with Burnden Park that says we have a responsibility to pave it
if they have the money to_do it with.
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daily trips per
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10 trips per~
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9. When is construction expected to start? and How long will it take? p~pends
on the County and approximately 6-8 months.
10. What happens to the traffic when construction starts? Is concerned about
school children getting on the road during construction. Ordinarily,
there is a construction plan, but not aware of a specific plan just now._
Ms. Monta said that the developers of Sawmill tried to get access to Hackney-
Prairie Road and settled with access to Apopka-Vineland Road with an agreement
to build only Phase I until the second access road was opened. Sawmill is now
in Phase II and they only have one access road. Burnden Park will only have one
access road. . . . Burnden Park will have Clarke Road as well as Hackney-Prairie Road
and. is currently in the process of building ~_The County agreed to waive the
need for the second access on Clarke Road. Ms. Monta wants Clarke Road finished
before any paving of Hackney-Prairie begins and asked for a letter stating that
the City will not annex such properties without the request or consent of the
land owners and residents who are part of Orange County. The City cannot annex
a property without the request or approval of the owner. City Attorney Rosenthal
explained the state statutes pertainin~o this.
Ms. Melinda Strickland-Joyce, 711 Rich Drive, Ocoee spoke for residents of Forest
Oaks and especially Rich Drive, saying that the paving of Hackney-Prairie Road
and the removal of the crash gate on Rich Drive will adversely impact their
neighborhood with traffic, crime and noise pollution. Would prefer that the
crash gate not be removed, and is concerned that residents from Prairie Lake PUD
will be using Rich Drive as a thoroughfare.
City Attorney Rosenthal explained that there will be no certificates of occupancy
issued in prairie Lake PUD until Clarke Road is finished and then Hackney-Prairie
Road extension will be complete as well. No residents = no traffic increase. Mr.
Hugh Harley, representing Silvestri, said that a tremendous amount of money has
gone into the infrastructure to be sure the roads, etc. are in place before the
people ~re here to use them. City Manager Shapiro said that if the traffic moves
through that area too fast appropriate action would be taken by the Police.
Ms. Strickland-Joyce summarized and said that when the Commissioners provide
developers free access to an established subdivision they are breaking faith with
the existing homeowners and those who are voters will see that it is reflected
in the upcoming election. She asked:
1. Is there a written and documented ordinance mandating two entrances to
each subdivision, if so, where can it be found? Every major subdivision
(50 or more houses) has been required to have two entrances._
2. List the subdivisions which presently have two entrances and also those
subdivisions that have one entrance. 2 entrances: Sleepy Harbour, Prima
Vista, Waterside, Forest Oaks (Rich Drive was barricaded until Hackney-
Prarie Road is pave~oberts Rise (will have when adjacent property is
developed) [Clerk's note: There are others that were not mentioned in the
meeting]; 1_ entrance: Johio Shores.
3. Has Forest Oaks been singled out for the proposed expansion or are there
other subdivisions also targeted? Absolutek not singling out Forest
Oaks. The approved plan was to pave Hackney-Prairie Road and open Rich
Drive.
4. If so, which others are scheduled to tax paid for roads [sic] wi th
builders? Do you have any idea of the negative impact of opening Rich
Drive?
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Mr. Chris Sweazy, 1602 Prairie Lake Blvd., asked if there could be a waiver to
the need to open the crash gate, and he thought that part of the new development
would be duplexes. City Manager Shapiro said not likely. _ City Attorney
Rosenthal will research for something that is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan and the Code. Planning Director Behrens stated emphatically that there are
no duplexes planned for that development, only townhouses, villas, and patio
home~ all single family._
Mr. Guy DeVaney, 501 Hager Drive, said that if there is to be no traffic impact
there is no need to open Rich Drive. He and others are apprehensive about
opening the road due to crime potential. He asked:
1. Definitions of duplex, duplex shares a wall; villa and patio, same rooJ
cannot be shared, separate roof line, usually wing walls tied and share
lot line ._
2. Is there a legal requirement that the gate be opened or removed? Traffic
engineers would have to indicate the need; the Comprehensive Plan shows it
open, but the issue could be addressed._
Mr. R. P. Mohnacky, 1820 Prairie Lake Blvd., said that he would prefer to use the
Rich Drive entrance. Is there going to be a turn lane at the Hackney-Prairie Road
and Apopka-Vineland Road? Yes
Mr. Lee Cheneler, (did not give address), asked if there was a future plan for
~ a third access around Ison Lane. Not known but not expected.
Ms. MaryJo Cramer, 1413 prairie Lake Blvd., spoke for the residents in the front
of the subdivision, saying that all the residents go by her house and she would
welcome the opening of another access road.
Ms. Strickland-Joyce asked:
1. Is it possible to have unified homeowners put a controlled gate rather
than open the road to all? That would be privatizing the road and this is
a public street. If someone should press for it the _Ci ty would have to
remove the gate.
2. Is it possible to amend the Comprehensive Plan and when? The procedure is
under preparation now and it is anticipated that there will be two windows
~~~_. It would be necessary to show that. th~.roa~~two~k is adequate
without opening Rich Drive.
3. What action will be taken and when? The corollary issue of the crash ~L~
will be reviewed by the attorney and when the information is available
Commission will make_JL_determination.
RECESS 9:15 TO 9:30 P.M.
Mayor Dabbs announced that the County request to have a hearing regarding
Hackney-Prairie Road has been satisfied and in the process the issue of Rich
Drive crash gate was also raised.
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Commissioner Combs said that notices were sent to all citizens requesting their
assistance by serving on planning committees for the Comprehensive Plan and there
were approximately 15 citizens on each element of the Plan. He sat on the
traffic circulation element committee and was very concerned with traffic
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problems. Prior to that time he attended most of the commission meetings and
served on other boards as well. He said that he does not appreciate the threat
of "no vote" if he doesn't vote the way folks want him to. He suggested that
these citizens who wish to make a difference go back to their neighbors and get
the homeowners organization active. Commissioner Combs said further that the
decision to be made will affect 14,000+ citizens, not just those who live in
Forest Oaks.
City Manager Shapiro said that he will look into putting a wall or wood fence as
well as a sidewalk along Hackney-Prairie Road.
Commissioner Johnson asked that the citizens give them the courtesy of thinking
that the Commission is working for them, that this is not a part time job.
Commissioner Foster said that it has been suggested that this Commission does not
care and that is not so. This Commission has a legal obligation to abide by
decisions made by prior Commissions.
Commissioner Woodson said that he physically looks at each issue when possible
and the Commission depends on the attorney for legal direction.
Mayor Dabbs applauded the citizens for their comments and said that he has given
more time than originally alloted so that all could speak. He pointed out that
~ the original plat shows Rich Drive cut through and it is not a good practice to
undo what prior Commissions have done. Mayor Dabbs said that it is his
understanding that the crash gate will stand until Hackney-Prairie Road is
constructed, at which time it will come down.
City Manager Shapiro will report back to the County regarding this meeting and
the position of this Commission.
Jeff Bailey, 701 Rich Drive, asked if there can be a four-way stop at both the
Rich Drive/Prairie Lake Drive intersection and the Rich Drive/Hackney-Prairie
Road intersection. That will be investiaated.
RECESS 10:25 - 10:35 P.M.
Resolution No. 92-01, "creating an application fee for street and right-of-way
vacations; providing for severability; providing an effective date." was
presented by title. City Manager Shapiro explained that this resolution
establishes the procedure which was called for in the adoption of Ordinance No.
91-21 and that the recommended fee was $250. Commissioner Combs, seconded by
Commissioner Foster moved to adopt Resolution No. 92-01 as presented. Motion
carried with unanimous vote in favor.
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Finance Quarterly Review
City Manager Shapiro complimented staff on the budget review preparation and
requested Commission to review this report and not react at this time, but rather
plan to permit staff to determine how they can reduce expenditures and come back
before Commission at the next meeting with recommendations. Administrative
Services Director Beamer said that these statistics are the same as those
previously presented, that they have been analyzed as to whether the quota was
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met and whether it should have been met. Those line items that are over expended
are that way because this is the first year that certain expenses were divided
in this manner. Next year the figures will be more accurate at the beginning.
Commissioner Foster said he would prefer to not wait two weeks to start
tightening the belt. City Manager Shapiro said that we have begun already in
several areas...unfilled jobs will not be filled, etc.
Commissioner Woodson said he will be willing to wait the two weeks to give staff
an opportunity to trim down.
Commissioners Combs and Johnson had no further comments.
Ms. Beamer advised that the 4.3 million has been moved from a rapidly declining
investment to one that is fixed at over 7%.
Mayor Dabbs said he was impressed with the book and the way it was put together
and that he would wait for the next meeting and the recommendations.
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Voter Control of City Taxes
Administrative Services Director Beamer advised that this proposed constitutional
amendment, if it were placed on the ballot and if it were approved, would remove
the Legislature's absolute power to dictate tax structure and tax policy to
cities and would return that power to the voters of each individual city. If
approved by the voters, it would become the ongoing tax structure, but if
rejected, the existing tax structure of the city would remain. The League
commi ttee has requested guidance in establishing the course of action to be
approved by the members. Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner Combs,
moved to support to the Florida League of Cities voter control of city taxes
proposal. Motion carried with unanimous vote in favor.
Recommendation for Orange County Commission Appointment to the Community Action
Board
Mayor Dabbs, seconded by Commissioner Foster, moved to recommend Commissioner
Johnson to represent the City on the Community Action Board. Motion carried with
unanimous vote in favor.
STAFF REPORTS
Ci ty Attorney Rosenthal reported that PDR is in bankruptcy and our contract
cannot be withdrawn. The trustee agreed to abandon the contract and that will
be filed Wednesday or Thursday. However, there is still a 15 day period during
which creditors can object. At the end of that period, the City can then accept
a new contract with DRP.
COKKENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Woodson:
1) Announced that the pick up of recyclables on Veronica Place will start soon.
~ 2) Asked about the window for annexations. City Attorney Rosenthal explained
that if the annexation is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and if the
zoning is consistent with the Plan they can be considered at any time. If
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inconsistent with either the Plan or Land Use Element the matter will be on hold
until after the Land Use Element is adopted. Also large scale development will
not be considered until that time as well because of concurrency requirements.
3) Asked when the window for registering for the Senior Citizen Program (Over
65) is. Response was April.
4) Asked when the trash report would be made. City Manager Shapiro advised that
it should be ready by the end of the week.
5) The sidewalk at the corner of S. Cumberland Avenue and McKey Street is going
to be level with the road after the resurfacing is finished. City Manager
advised that D.O.T. will give a second look and see what they can do about that.
Commissioner Combs:
1) Asked if a guard rail can be put along the road at Geneva Street between
Kissimmee and Bluford Avenue where the ditch is eroding.
2) Still has heartburn over the fact that PDR said they knew nothing about the
bankruptcy situation.
3) Asked about the golf course. City Manager advised there will be a report at
the March 3rd meeting.
4) Wants to be sure the mess is cleaned up and big trees are taken care of by
D.O.T.
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Commissioner Foster:
1) Reported the street light is out at 909 Starke Lake Circle.
2) Said the ditch on the south side of Center Street is in bad shape and is now
a dump.
3) Has received complaints re: trash in yard at 903 Starke Lake Circle.
4) Blood Bank will be here February 25.
5) Mayor will be out of town on February 11 and 12.
commissioner Johnson:
1) Wanted to line up the number 2 architect for the golf course instead of
waiting until March. Was advised we should not do that.
2) Reported that the county sidewalks are going in on North Lakewood Avenue.
3) Said City Manager Shapiro's new nickname is "The Bear".
4) Asked for a copy of the districting maps.
Mayor Dabbs:
1) Asked if the ownership of the casual roads off Geneva/Kissimmee Streets will
become a problem regarding ownership (Amber Electric, etc.)
2) Will not be present at March 3rd meeting.
ADJOURNKElfT
The meeting adjourned at 11:30 p.m.
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