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January 18,2017 MINUTES 7:00 p.m.
Call to Order
Chairman Hopper called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m., in the Commission Chambers of
City Hall, located at 150 N. Lakeshore Drive. Recording Clerk Sibbitt called roll and declared a
quorum to be present. After roll call, Pledge of Allegiance was led by Member Griffin.
Roll Call and Determination of Quorum
Present: Chairman Hopper, Vice-Chair King, Members West, Murray, Griffin, and Alternate
Member Bonham. Also present were Recording Clerk Sibbitt, Charter Review Commission
"CRC" Facilitator Rosenthal, and Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier.
Absent: Alternate Member Grogan
Guests: None
Approval of Minutes of November 16, 2016, Meeting
Motion for Approval of the November 16, 2016, Minutes: Moved by Member West,
Seconded by Member Griffin; Motion carried 5-0.
Public Comments -None
Discussion/Review of the Current City Charter
Chairman Hopper said that he noticed everyone has the memorandum provided by the City
Attorney in front of them. He explained the memorandum summarizes that the Charter Review
Commission cannot put their questions straight to the ballot. It will have to be brought back
before the City Commission. It is his understanding that the amending of a county charter is
different than the method for amending a municipal charter. Assistant City Attorney Crosby-
Collier explained that under Chapter 125, which regulates counties, there is a provision relating
to county charters that allows for charter itself to establish how the questions get to the voters.
There is, however, a different procedure in the State law for cities. Provided in Florida
Statute 166.031, it states that the only way to get a charter question to the voters is to either have
the City Commission pass an ordinance or a petition of ten percent (10%) of the voters.
Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier shared that it is her understanding that about ten (10)
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years ago the last Charter Review Commission moved to model the Orange County Charter to
have amendments and revisions of the charter go directly to the ballot. The attorney further
explained how they came to realize that charter questions cannot go straight to the ballot and the
inquiry that was conducted with the Florida League of Cities and Local Government Law.
Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier explained this is an opportunity to look at the charter
and make corrections that will be more favorable for everyone. At the City Commission
Meeting last night this was also discussed and explained. It was recommended to the City
Commission to allow the Charter Review Board to present their recommendations in which they
could adopt an ordinance with those recommendations to put straight onto the ballot. CRC
Facilitator Rosenthal shared that when he heard of this he was surprised as he did not recall the
question of putting amendments directly on the ballot to the voters when the charter was
amended last time. It is his understanding that there have not been any litigations or charter
amendments challenged over the provisions that match our current charter. The risk is they can
leave the charter as is and have it go straight to the voters without going through the City
Commission; however, if someone wanted to challenge it, it could be a successful challenge. He
briefly explained some of the history of the prior charter verbiage and the steps that the Charter
Review Board had to endure during that time. CRC Facilitator Rosenthal advised that the
board has the opportunity to address this current charter with an amendment and have something
stronger than what was in the charter before. He explained that they can change the language so
it does not give the City Commission the power to veto their amendments, but the Commission
would still have to adopt an ordinance. Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier shared some
information that she found on the City of Tarpon Springs, which allows for their City
Commission to review their report once before the board finalizes the report to adopt by
ordinance. If this is something they may like to consider, she can research further.
Chairman Hopper shared his concern that the Commission might not being happy with the
changes they recommend and vote down the ordinance as some of the decisions they make might
directly affect how they operate. Member West shared that they are an appointed board, and he
feels they should not be above an elected board. He opined that the elected officials should have
the final say. Chairman Hopper disagreed, as the Charter Review Board is an independent
board that was asked by the City Commission to review the charter. CRC Facilitator Rosenthal
suggested one of the things they can do is present their amendments with an ordinance. It would
still have to be adopted, but it would eliminate another step. Chairman Hopper said he likes
that suggestion and would think that the Commission would appreciate that. Member Griffm
said that the logical way would be to present it as an ordinance as it will be the Commission's
choice no matter how it is presented. He opined that presenting an ordinance could streamline the
process and not make it so cumbersome. Alternate Member Bonham said he shares the same
sentiments as Member West and feels that the City Commission will listen to them and take their
input. Vice-Chair King inquired if sending it as an ordinance would be a one-time opportunity.
CRC Facilitator Rosenthal shared that right now there is not a procedure that answers that.
Currently, the charter says it goes directly to the voters. For future charter review, after this one,
they have the opportunity to recommend what procedure they would like to follow. Member
Murray said he also agrees that the ordinance would be the way to go. After further discussion
ensued, CRC Facilitator Rosenthal suggested that the board put off discussion until the next
meeting to allow the city attorney to bring back different options or provisions they may want to
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consider. Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier shared that the Supervisor of Elections
Office did advise the City Clerk that they will need to have the ballot language by January 19,
2018, which is when qualifying begins for the general election. CRC Facilitator Rosenthal
added that if they work off that date, then November would be the latest month that they will
have to conclude their changes so they can send an ordinance before the Commission for
adoption.
Chairman Hopper asked Recording Clerk Sibbitt to please begin reading the Charter from
where they left off at the last meeting. The following items were briefly discussed when
reviewing those sections:
Article III City Commission - C-9, Created; composition, desijination, election generally
Chairman Hopper inquired how they feel about the single-member districts versus a
commission at large. Member West opined that he likes the single-member districts, because
otherwise they could have Commissioners that all reside in one subdivision or area of the city. It
was asked that Assistant City Attorney Crosby-Collier briefly explain the Districting
Commission, which is set to meet soon. Vice-Chair King asked for clarification on the question
that Chairman Hopper posed to the board. Chairman Hopper shared that he was asked by a
resident if they could do away with the single-member district seats and have a commission at
large. Member Griffin shared that it is great to have a Commissioner who lives within the
district they represent, because then they would personally understand the issues within that
district. CRC Facilitator Rosenthal advised that this discussion would also relate to Article XI.
Vice-Chair King inquired if the person asking had any reasons or thoughts on why they would
want a commission at large. Chairman Hopper shared it was an inquiry and the thought was
that they would not have to have a Districting Commission and the citizens of Ocoee would also
be able to vote at large, which allows the Commissioners to be accountable for the City and not
just their district. Brief discussion ensued.
Member West inquired when the Mayor pro tern was elected. Chairman Hopper shared they
are not elected but appointed by the City Commission. Discussion ensued regarding if there is a
rotating process.
Member West said he would also like to address the process of resignation of Mayor. CRC
Facilitator Rosenthal advised that would be Section C-17 — Vacancies; forfeiture of office;
filling of vacancies. Chairman Hopper agreed that it would be a great idea of review that
process.
Vice-Chair King inquired why there are four districts. CRC Facilitator Rosenthal explained
that historically there have always been four districts. He shared that the Districting Commission
is looking to meet, but typically most jurisdictions do their districting ever ten(10) years with the
census. He further briefly explained the difficulties of districting every five (5) years as currently
stated in the charter, because it requires projection data versus real data. CRC Facilitator
Rosenthal shared that they may want to consider changing the redistricting of the city every ten
(10) years based on the census.
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CRC Facilitator Rosenthal suggested that they keep a running list of topics that they would like
to revisit and discuss again. It was asked that the topics of Mayor pro tern (C-9), districting (C-9,
C-65 and C-66), and vacancy (C-17) be added to the list.
Chairman Hopper encouraged the members to please go through the charter and highlight areas
they would like to discuss. He further announced the next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday,
February 15, 2017.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m.
Melanie Sibbitt, Recording Clerk Michael Hopper, Chairman
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