HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem 01 Approval and Acceptance of the Minutes of the Budget Workshops of August 10th and August 17, 2005
MINUTES
OCOEE CITY COMMISSION
August 10, 2005 at 6:30 P.M.
Agenda 9/2Q105
Item 1
I A. CALL TO ORDER
BUDGET WORKSHOP
Mayor Vandergrift called the regular session to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Commission
Chambers of City Hall. City Clerk Eikenberry called roll and declared a quorum present.
Roll Call: Commissioner Howell, Commissioner Anderson, Mayor Vandergrift, Commissioner
Johnson, and Commissioner Parker
Others Present: City Manager Frank, City Clerk Eikenberry
I BUDGET PRESENTATION
City Manager's Budget Message, City Manager Frank
General Fund Revenue Sources and Expenditures, Finance Director Horton
Budget presentations summarizing personnel costs, operating expenses, and capital
expenses/projects were made to the Commission from each department as follows:
City Commissions Departmental Budget, Multi Media/Community Events Manager Elliott
City Managers Departmental Budget, Multi Media/Community Events Manager Elliott
Community Relations Budget, Multi Media/Community Events Manager Elliott
City Clerks Departmental Budget, City Clerk Eikenberry
Finance Departmental Budget, Finance Director Horton
Information Systems Departmental Budget, Information Systems Director Ross
Human Resources Departmental Budget, Human Resources Director Carnicella
Legal Department, Multi Media/Community Events Manager Elliott
Community Development Departmental Budget, Planning, Comm. Dev. Director Wagner
General Government Departmental Budget, Finance Director Horton
Public Works Departmental Budget, Public Works Director Zaitooni
Police Departmental Budget, Police Chief Goclon
Fire Departmental Budget, Deputy Fire Chief McNeil
Community Development Departmental Budget, Building, Building Official Jones
Police Departmental Budget, Communications, Police Chief Goclon
Parks & Recreation Departmental Budget, Cemetery, Parks & Recreation Director Petrone
Public Works Departmental Budget, Streets, Public Works Director Zaitooni
Public Works Departmental Budget, ROW Maintenance, Public Works Director Zaitooni
Public Works Departmental Budget, Fleet Maintenance, Public Works Director Zaitooni
Engineering Departmental Budget, City Engineer Wheeler
Parks & Recreation Departmental Budget, Parks & Recreation Director Petrone
Public Works Departmental Budget, Stormwater, Public Works Director Zaitooni
Utilities Departmental Budget, Utilities Director Smith
City Commission Budget Workshop
August 10, 2005
(Powerpoint Presentation Attached)
Brain Koehler of Brown & Brown, Inc., Broker for the City's group medical, dental, and vision
program and John Byrner, Manager of Brown & Brown, Inc., Orlando Office distributed a
booklet comparing costs and benefits of the current provider, Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS)
and the recommended new provider, United Health Care (UHC). Mr. Koehler said United
Health Care has matched the current co-pay and deductible plan design, identical to what we
currently have with BCBS. They did a network analysis on doctors on the BCBS plan vs. UHC
plan, and found three out of fifty doctors that were not on UHC. With UHC the Florida Hospital
Network will be included, and there will be no referral required to visit a specialist in either
program. Data regarding Premiums Paid In vs. Claims Dollars Paid Out was provided to each of
the carriers during the selection process. BCBS originally proposed a 25% increase.
Commissioner Anderson asked Brown and Brown to provide information regarding 5 year
Premiums Paid In vs. Claims Dollars Paid Out and a "mean age" of our participants. Mr.
Koehler said the Human Resources Department could probably get a more accurate figure than
the insurance carrier for the mean age.
Mr. Koehler and Mr. Byrner were asked to return on August 17, 2005, for the second
workshop.
Discussions occurred regarding the Budget Message, Summary of Revenues and Expenditures,
Stormwater Utility Fund. Questions and answers were as follows:
Budget Message
Commissioner Anderson asked why the 2% proposed COLA is under the Consumer Price
Index, which is 2.8%. City Manager Frank said the 2% COLA, 3% merit increase, and
implementation of the salary survey would create a very fair and competitive salary package.
Commissioner Anderson the budget message says we will need a $1.50 per ERC increase in the
stormwater fee to pay for projects over and above the operational costs of the department and he
would like to see where that money would go. Public Works Director Zaitooni said all the
unfunded projects were listed in his budget presentation; this money would go toward funding
any of these projects as directed by Commission. He said there are approximately ten projects
leftover we have not been able to complete. This rate has not been increased in ten years and we
have not been able meet the level of service and fund these projects. Mayor Vandergrift asked
that an updated needs assessment be brought back before the Commission.
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Commissioner Anderson asked where the Beginning Cash Balance came from. Finance
Director Horton said this represents the money that should be left over from this year and a
portion of the revenue from the sale of the property on Enterprise. The Public Works Facility
cannot be completed this year, so the money is being carried over for next year. Public Works
Director Zaitooni said the bids are due tomorrow on this facility, and we anticipate the cost will
be approximately $800,000.
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Mayor Vandergrift asked why the tax base appears to be flattening out on the graph. Finance
Director Horton said she will get back to him on that.
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Mayor Vandergrift advised he would like to enhance our Income on Line Item 33820
Occupational License-County.
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Commissioner Anderson would like to decrease the Personnel Expenditures below 64%.
Finance Director Horton said that it was up in the 70 percentages a few years ago and has been
brought down to the 60's. City Manager Frank said 70% is average for municipalities.
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Mayor Vandergrift asked about the capital outlay item for $9,800 for a DVD playback system,
and thought we should consider digital recording instead. Multi Media/Community Events
Manager Elliott said that we will purchase a digital system if we are able to. If we cannot
afford digital we will still have to switch over to DVD because the VHS format is becoming
obsolete.
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Commissioner Anderson asked for clarity on the Assistant City Manager ad position. He said
he wasn't sure if the City was big enough for that position and he was concerned of adding a
level between department directors and the City Manager. Commissioner Johnson said City
Manager Frank would have more accessibility, not less, to the department heads and all City
employees if he had an Assistant City Manager to help handle administrative tasks. This
position will cost less than the two positions being removed from the budget. Commissioner
Parker said she thinks if this will increase the connection between the employees and the City
Manager's Office, it doesn't matter what title they have, as long as they are doing work that will
free up the City Manager to interact more with employees and keep them personally informed,
rather than letting rumors take over. Commissioner Anderson said he also thinks the City
Manager should live in the City. Commission Johnson said he doesn't feel it should be an issue
where the City Manager resides, if it is an issue, it should be discussed at the Workshop on
September 7,2005. Commissioner Howell and Commissioner Parker agreed.
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Commissioner Anderson asked what the $10,000 line item was for in the City Clerk budget.
City Clerk Eikenberry advised it is a one-time fee for contractual services for cemetery
administration and development of computer programs.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Max Jacobs, 2247 NE 4 Street, asked about the number of computers we are ordering and asked
if we had considered buying them in mass to save money. City Manager Frank said we have
developed a new policy, instead of automatically replacing computers after four years, we will
place the replacement money in a "trust fund" in order to use it where and when it is most
needed. We may end up getting seven or eight years from some computer. At this time we
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piggy-back on governmental contracts with other agencies to save money, and we are auctioning
computers when they have outlived their usefulness with the City.
Rosemary Wilson, said she did not feel that we need to add the position of Assistant Parks and
Recreation Director, and also wants to know why the Cemetery Maintenance went up. City
Manager Frank said $20,000 was added to handle the mowing and maintenance will be turned
over to outside contractors.
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Commissioner Anderson said we have several unfilled positions in the police department, and
asked the Police Chief how we handled that. Police Chief Goclon said some overtime was
necessary, as well as restructuring positions and duties. Commissioner Anderson said he would
like to see something done, such as give $1500 one-time amount to all police officers who have
served for more than one year to help the morale and thank them for picking up the slack when
we were short staffed. He thinks it is important to try to keep officers from leaving the
department. Police Chief Goclon said we are approximately 10 road patrol officers short at this
time. Road patrol officers leave for a variety of reasons, including transferring to another
position, leaving the City for more money, or relocating outside of Florida. Commissioner
Howell said we need to find a way to lure good officers to Ocoee. Human Resources Director
Carnicella said we are actively recruiting at this time, and looking for more ways to attract more
applicants.
The meeting adjourned at 8:58 p.m.
Attest:
APPROVED:
City of Ocoee
Beth Eikenberry, City Clerk
S. Scott Vandergrift, Mayor
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Item 1
MINUTES
OCOEE CITY COMMISSION
August 17, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.
BUDGET WORKSHOP
I A. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Vandergrift called the regular session to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Commission
Chambers of City Hall. City Clerk Eikenberry called roll and declared a quorum
present.
Roll Call: Commissioner Howell, Commissioner Anderson, Mayor Vandergrift,
Commissioner Johnson, and Commissioner Parker
Others Present: City Manager Frank, City Clerk Eikenberry
I BUDGET (Continued Prom August 10, 2005)
Brian Koehler of United Health Insurance was there to answer questions of the
Commission.
Commissioner Anderson asked what the average out-of-pocket costs would be for a
family where each member would get sick twice a year. Mr. Koehler said, with United
Health Care (UHC), the doctor visits and prescription pharmacy are identical with what is
currently offered by Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS). Themail order prescriptions are a
littler higher with UHC than BCBS, for example a 90-day supply would cost 2 times the
monthly prescription amount vs. 2 Y2 times the monthly prescription on UHC.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the physician lists are different from one program to
the next. Mr. Koehler said they selected the 50 doctors most used by our employees on
the BCBS Plan, and all but three of them were on the UHC Plan. With UHC, employees
would also have access to the Florida Hospital Health Care System.
Mr. Koehler said BCBS's out-of-network benefit is better than UHC, however, only
about 3% of benefits paid out are used for out-of-network benefits.
Commissioner Howell said he spoke with employees who had major health issues and
they are very happy with the service they received from BCBS. He feels we should stay
with BCBS.
Commissioner Anderson said he is not comfortable making employees switch from a
plan they have been on for 14 years. He thinks we should stay with BCBS.
Commissioner Johnson said UHC would provide the same service for less. We don't
have the additional $90,000 in the budget. UHC is a very reputable company, and it took
BCBS several attempts to give the City their final "best offer" when they initially tried to
raise the rates by 26%. He thinks we should go with UHC.
Commissioner Parker said she spoke to employees, advised them to look on UHC
website, and they felt more comfortable once they saw their doctors were on UHC
provider list. She feels that UHC is going to provide comparable service, for less money.
She agrees with Commissioner Johnson that we have been good customers to BCBS, and
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they should have given us a better price on the first go-round. She wants the City to
educate employees about the change so there will be no panic, but feels we should go
with UHC.
Mayor Vandergrift said he has been using UHC through his wife's insurance plan, and
he has been very happy with their service. He is in favor of switching to UHC.
The consensus of the Commission (3-2 with Commissioner Anderson and
Commissioner Howell obiectinal, was that it would be in the best interest of
the City and emplovees to switch to United Health Care.
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Commissioner Anderson asked about the Capital Outlay Item in the General
Government Budget, 6405- EOC wiring, and asked if there was grant funding for this
purpose. City Manager Frank said it was put in the General Government budget
because we need to do this, whether we get a grant or not, but we will look into grant
applications for this purpose.
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Commissioner Anderson asked about the $300,000 for the Public Works Building and
Pole Barn. Finance Director Horton said this was part of the cash carry-forward
discussed earlier. That number may have to change depending on how much they are
able to complete in this fiscal year.
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Commissioner Anderson asked if there is a mechanism in place to determine when we
need more firefighters. Chief Firstner said their number of personnel is based on area
served, and not on population. It is based on NFTA National Standards. Our minimum
crew is three men per truck, normal response is four men per truck. Our deficiency at
this time is due to the growth in the Northwest Sector. Once a station is built and manned
to full compliment, the ISO rating will increase dramatically.
Mayor Vandergrift asked about the two full-sized SUV's for the fire department. City
Manager Frank said one is to replace the battalion chief vehicle, and one is to replace an
older station wagon that we have. It will be used as a back up vehicle, or an extra vehicle
to respond when the situation warrants. Mayor Vandergrift said he would like the City
to consider hybrids or more energy-conserving vehicles in light of the big increased in
gasoline. Chief Firstner said that in these two cases an SUV or larger vehicle is needed
to carry equipment.
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Commissioner Anderson asked about the additional expenses for the cemetery. The
$15,000 under Parks and Recreation contractual services is for lawn maintenance, and the
$10,000 under cemetery maintenance is for road repair, fences, irrigation, etc. There is
also $10,000 in the City Clerk's Budget for administration and updating of the cemetery
records.
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Commissioner Anderson said the amounts seem low with regards to the resurfacing of
Hill Avenue ($11,000) and West Avenue ($13,000) and said Commission should expect
that they will go up once work begins. Commissioner Howell asked if this type of repair
is done in-house. Stormwater Supervisor Elmore advised that resurfacing is done in-
house. Commissioner Howell also asked Mr. Elmore to look into recent pothole repairs
on Adair Street because they need some more work.
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Mayor Vandergrift inquired about the cost of the stump grinder vs. renting one when
needed. City Manager Frank said they were not even able to rent them after the
hurricane, and the rental cost is approximately $250 per day.
Mayor Vandergrift asked about the item for $30,000 for a sidewalk on Lyman Street,
and asked how bad the need is for this. City Engineer Wheeler said that Ocoee
Elementary School students walk there every day and there is an area with no sidewalk.
Commissioner Anderson said that he does not think $10,000 will be enough to cover all
traffic-calming devices needed. City Manager Frank said he is correct, that item was
originally much higher, but it was reduced to balance the budget at 4.59.
Police Department
Mayor Vandergrift asked how many positions are open in the Police Department. City
Manager Frank said they budgeted for five new police officers, and applied for a grant
for a sixth officer. He said that Human Resources has been looking at new ways to
recruit officers and get them through the hiring process.
Police Chief Goclon said we are down 12 positions at this time. Some officers are
leaving the department due to working understaffed for many years. Since September
2004, twelve officers left; seven went to other agencies, two were terminated, one retired,
and two went to the private sector.
Mayor Vandergrift said we need to keep up with the cutting edge oftechnology, such as
using "Robocops" for traffic enforcement. Chief Goclon said combination traffic lights
will make it possible for one officer to write a ticket for running red lights. Chiefs of
Police in Orange County wrote a letter to the Legislature supporting red-light cameras,
and we will hopefully see them one day soon. Commissioner Anderson asked if
"Robocop" type new equipment would be covered by impact fees.
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Commissioner Anderson asked about the small Street Sweeper, which is not able to
keep up with the current demand, and asked why we are not getting a larger one. He felt
we should purchase two small sweepers or one large one. Stormwater Supervisor
Elmore said the smaller sweepers only go 15 m.p.h., where the larger ones will travel at
normal vehicle speeds which gets us to and from the dumping area quicker. The cost is
$120,000 for a small sweeper and $156,000 for the large one. Concensus of the
Commission was to purchase the laraer street sweeper.
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Email response
Mayor Vandergrift asked City Manager Frank to respond to emails inquiring about the
need for an Assistant to the City Manager. City Manager Frank said that he has to
spend much of his time in meetings or away from the office and is not available, and
things have to wait until he returns. We need someone who can assist with evaluating
things associated with the City's growth and change, such as impact fees, operational
improvement, grant funding programs, performance initiatives, community relations etc.
Commissioner Johnson said he feels that there is too much going on for the City
Manager to address all of the issues, and be able to meet with Commissioners,
Department Heads, Developers, etc. Commissioner Parker said that the City Manager
has limited time to work with various departments to discuss pertinent issues and adding
an Assistant City Manager would free up some of his time. Mayor Vandergrift said he
thinks that we should have the job duties listed before creating the position. City
Manager Frank said he would get the job description out in the next couple days.
Mayor Vandergrift also asked about the need for the Assistant Parks and Recreation
Director. City Manager Frank said the Parks and Recreation people are doing an
excellent job considering how thin they are stretched. He thinks that the new residents
moving to Ocoee have a higher expectation of Recreation Programs, and another
managerial position could help to devise a Master Plan, act as a liaison to the Advisory
Board, identify property for acquisition, etc. This is a department that we need to put
some resources into to help prepare for the future. Commissioner Anderson said that he
feels they need more employees in that department, rather than another manager.
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Commissioner Johnson asked about the position in the Water Department that was
placed in the budget last year as a part-time position with the understanding it would be
reviewed mid-year for consideration of full-time. Finance Director Horton said, until
the HRMP salary survey was completed, it was not a priority to reconsider that position.
Commissioner Johnson said it needs to be changed to a full-time position, because they
are always short-staffed on the front counter when he walks by. Commissioner
Anderson agreed the position should be made full-time.
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Commissioner Anderson asked why the contractual services under the storm water
department were reduced from $190,000 to $60,000 after the initial request. Finance
Director Horton said it was because the mosquito control services were deleted from the
budget.
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Commissioner Anderson asked why the item under "Transfers Out - R&R" was
reduced from $100,000 to O. Finance Director Horton said it was moved to projects.
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Commissioner Anderson asked why the water tax went to zero. Finance Director
Horton said it had been moved to the General Fund where it should have been.
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Commissioner Anderson asked if the elevation in wastewater fund on page 5-4 and the
reduction in water fees shown on 5-5 are due to the rate changes. Finance Director
Horton said yes.
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Commissioner Anderson asked why our storm water expenditure always shows less for
actual than for what was budgeted. Finance Director Horton said projects may not have
been completed or come in under budget.
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Commissioner Anderson asked about the redrilling of a new well, permlttmg, and
design. Utilities Director Smith said this item is for the design and permitting only.
The whole cost to tear down Jamela and do the transfer and relocate is estimated to be in
the $600,000 range and the new pump station is estimated in the 1.1 million dollar range.
The well at Jamela will be transferred over to Forest Oaks.
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Commissioner Anderson asked what we are doing differently on the POWR Program.
Utilities Director Smith said the program will change a little by doing less education and
more direct one-on-one contact with residents and on-site audits. The job description for
the conservation coordinator is being redone per Commission request.
Commissioner Anderson asked what the $50,000 in Emergency Repairs Utilities was
for. City Manager Frank said it was for unanticipated emergency repairs.
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Commissioner Anderson asked if the Operating Supplies went from $400,000 requested
to $40,000 proposed. City Engineer Wheeler said it appears to be a typo. Finance
Director Horton said that line item is for the recycle bins and garbage carts. She does
not recall a large increase in any line item and believes it is a typo. She said they will
check with Public Works Director Zaitooni and report back.
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Why has the City Clerk's budget increased? City Clerk Eikenberry said that two line
items were added this year that were not in last year's budget: Elections, and Cemetery
Administration (Contractual Services). The operating budget would have otherwise
decreased.
Do we collect revenues for telephone and cable franchises? Mayor Vandergrift said
about four years ago the government lumped them all into a telecommunications fee, and
we are still trying to figure out how much we lost. City Manager Frank said that the
revenues from this have been decreasing over the last few years, due in part to "unlimited
long distance" being added to the base rate and cell phone bills being lower than they
used to be.
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Public Comments
Elizabeth Irvine- asked that the budget for the Withers Maguire House be increased this
year, and would like to see an accounting of funds that are spent. Finance Director
Horton said one Page 3-74, under facilities maintenance, there is a line item for the
Maguire House with $2,000 being proposed for next year. That figure does not reflect
the electrical expense, lawn maintenance, alarms, and other items. She said she will
provide that information. Ms. Irvine said the house is supposed to be painted inside, and
they have had to close the house several times waiting for it to be painted and it hasn't
been done yet. City Manager Frank said that will be done by our Facilities
Maintenance, and they have been stretched very thin since all of the hurricane damage
occurred. Commissioner Anderson suggested we bump up that line item a few
thousand dollars. Commissioner Parker said she wants to be sure it is put in excellent
condition by Founder's Day, because it is the day they have the highest number of
visitors. Commissioner Anderson said he would like to add $2,000 to that line item.
City Manager Frank said that money should probably go in the Facilities Maintenance
overtime budget.
Max Jacobs, 2247 Mountain Spruce Street, said he is concerned about the budget
process as a resident. What happened to the sanitation employees after we privatized and
where are all of the savings that we were supposed to see? Where did the money go for
the fines that were paid by the sanitation hauler. City Manager Frank said the
employees were relocated to other positions in the city, and the fines that the hauler had
to pay go in to the solid waste enterprise fund. Mr. Jacobs said he would like to see
more accountability. Finance Director Horton said Mr. Jacobs can stop by or call the
Finance Department and she will go over that with him.
Commissioner Anderson said he would like to reverse the salary increases to 3% COLA
and 2% Merit (instead of the proposed 2% COLA and 3% Merit). He said the Cost of
Living for gas and goods has increased, and the COLA raise should more closely mirror
the CPI. City Manger Frank said he will bring figures back in a few minutes.
Commissioner Anderson said he would like to see more exercise equipment in the
Recreation Department. We need to see more projects being done. We need less
managers and more worker bees. He would like to increase traffic calming devices, he
doesn't think $10,000 will be enough. Commissioner Parker said we could look at
increasing them at mid-year. Commissioner Anderson said we may want to consider
going year-round on the pool, other cities have been very successful. He said it would be
a service to the community. Mayor Vandergrift noted that he started out saying he
didn't want to raise the millage rate, and then listed many items that would require
additional funding. Commissioner Anderson said we should have less personnel, and
more amenities by eliminating positions such as Assistant to the City Manager, Assistant
Parks and Recreation Director, and Code Enforcement Supervisor.
City Manger Frank said the figures for reversing the COLA and Merit raises would be
$85,000.
The Public Hearing for the Budget will be September 15,2005, at 7:00 p.m.
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I ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
Attest:
APPROVED:
City of Ocoee
Beth Eikenberry, City Clerk
S. Scott Vandergrift