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09-22-2009 Minutes MINUTES OF THE CITY OF OCOEE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD MEETING SEPTEMBER 22, 2009 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Godek called the regular meeting of the Ocoee Code Enforcement Board to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers at City Hall. Member Hopper led the Invocation and Member Lowery led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. The roll was called and a quorum was declared present. PRESENT: Chairman Godek, Vice Chair M. Godek, Members Elliott, Hopper, Lowery, and Alternate Member Osborne. Also present were Code Enforcement Officer Loeffler, Code Enforcement Officer Delgado, Code Enforcement Officer Rodriguez, Code Enforcement Officer Siegrist, Division Chief Stanley, Fire Inspector Sorenson, Administrative Assistant Ballard, Attorney Sneed, and Deputy City Clerk Sibbitt. ABSENT: Members Alexander, Sais, and Alternate Members Morton were absent excused. GUESTS: None. Member Lowerv. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek, moved to avvrove the Minutes of the August 25, 2009, Workshov Meetin$l. Motion carried unanimouslv. CONSENT AGENDA ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND WILL BE ACTED UPON BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS DISCUSSION IS DESIRED BY A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, IN WHICH CASE THE CHAIRMAN WILL INSTRUCT THE BOARD CLERK TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SUCH ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. The Consent Agenda consisted of approval of Items A, B and C. *Note: Consent Agenda was amended. A. Minutes of the August 25,2009, Code Enforcement Board Meeting B. Dismissal or Compliance. (Case Numbers 09-221, 09-247, 09-249, 09-250, 09-255, 09- 263, 09-266, and 09-271 were transferred to consent.) Case Number Respondent Location of Violation 1. 09-221 Albert C. Hensel Jr. 700 Rich Drive 2. 09-247 Stella Hines Estate 508 Withers Court 3. 09-249 Singh Bejai & Dianand Persaud 2112 Laurel Blossom Cir. 4. 09-250 Roderick Smith 2334 Laurel Blossom Cir. 5. 09-255 Xavier Shantelle Wingster 1937 Aspenridge Ct. 6. 09-260 Autographix & Custom T Shirts LLC9401 W. Colonial Dr Ste K-24 7. 09-261 George William MacFadden Jr. 714 Crystal Drive Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 8. 09-262 9. 09-263 10. 09-265 11. 09-266 12.09-270 13.09-271 14.09-272 Greg Adkins & Louise Hoyos 710 Crystal Drive Alan G. Antoine & Wilma M. James 1878 Cas singham Cir. Spring Cleaning Commercial.. . 419 Enterprise Drive James J. Lake 1004 Oakwood Lane Golf Fitness Magazine Inc,... 2706 Rew Circle Denfield & Brenda Thomas 1577 Glenhaven Cir. Dakhil Development LLC 1478 E Silver Star Rd. Member HODDer. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek, moved to avvrove the Consent A$lenda with the amendments presented bv staff. C. Order of Continuance (October 27, 2009, Meeting). (Case Numbers 09-241, 09-254, 09- 259, 09-268, 09-275, 09-276, 09-278, and 09-284, were transferred to consent.) Case Number Respondent Location of Violation 1. 09-241 Gladys Vidal 779 Butterfly Creek Dr. 2. 09-254 Chitram Samaroo 2389 EI Marra Dr. 3. 09-259 Rajpaul & Siomara Singh 2226 Laurel Blossom Cir. 4. 09-268 William Jenkins 1595 Glenhaven Cir. 5. 09-275 Rafael & Irma Fernandez 422 Little Spring Hill 6. 09-276 Irene D. Jackson 429 Little Spring Hill 7. 09-278 HSBC Mortgage Svsc., Inc... 804 Spring Creek 8. 09-284 Crums Climate Control 2459 Copperhill Loop Member HODDer. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek, moved to amend his vrevious motion to include the Order of Continuance as well as approve the Consent A$lenda with the amendments vresented bv staff. Motion carried unanimouslv. Administrative Assistant Ballard administered the oath to Code Enforcement Officer Loeffler, Code Enforcement Officer Delgado, Code Enforcement Officer Rodriguez, Code Enforcement Officer Siegrist, Division Chief Stanley, Fire Inspector Sorenson and anyone intending to speak regarding a case. COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS - None. HEARINGS OF STATEMENTS OF VIOLATIONS PURSUANT TO THE HEARING RULES ADOPTED BY THIS BOARD ON JUNE 27, 1995, VARIOUS DOCUMENTS ARE USED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN EACH CASE AND ARE REPORTED IN THE CASE TESTIMONY GIVEN BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. IN THESE MINUTES THE TITLES TO THOSE DOCUMENTS WILL BE ABBREVIATED AS FOLLOWS: ACFD - AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE FOR DEMOLITION, AOC - AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE, AONC - AFFIDAVIT OF NON-COMPLIANCE, ATF-APPLICATION TO FORECLOSE, CO - COMPLIANCE ORDER, CMFD - COMMISSION MEETING FOR DETERMINATION, CS - CONTINUED STAY, CTR - COPY TO RESPONDENT, ECO - EXTENDED COMPLIANCE ORDER, EX-EXHIBITS, FS- FEES STAYED, LDC - Land Development Code, NOCV - NOTICE OF CODE VIOLATION, NOH - NOTICE OF HEARING, NS-No Service, OAF - ORDER AUTHORIZING FORECLOSURE, OIF/L- ORDER IMPOSING FINE/LIEN, ONC - ORDER OF NON-COMPLIANCE, OOC - ORDER OF CONTINUANCE, , ORF - ORDER REDUCING FINE, PDFS - PER DAY FINE SUSPENDED, POS - PROOF OF SERVICE, RFR - REQUEST FOR REHEARING, RFRDUC-REQUEST FOR REDUCTION DENIED UNTIL COMPLIANCE, ROF- REDUCTION OF FINE, SFH - SUBPOENA FOR HEARING, SOV - STATEMENT OF VIOLATION (S) and WD- WITHDREW. Page 2 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 HEARINGS ON STATEMENT OF VIOLATIONS PURSUANT TO NOTICES OF HEARINGS Case No. 09-212 - Alami Youssef 590 Belhaven Drive Officer Siegrist Violation Cited: 115-6 07-03-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 07-14-09 08-03-09 SOY 08-03-09 NOH Meeting Date: 08-25-09 08-03-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail 09-02-09 OC Regular & Certified Mail 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail Observation: Abandoned or unsafe swimming pool. Officer Siegrist gave a brief history of the case and provided exhibits. He further stated, as of September 8, 2009, the property was in compliance. Member HODDer. seconded bv Member Elliott, moved in Case No. 09-212 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as of Julv 13. 2009. but in comvliance as of Sevtember 8, 2009. and no fine be assessed at this time. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Case No. 09-225 - Verizon Wireless 0 Cellular Sales of Northern FL., LLC 9401 W. Colonial Drive, Ste. 316 Inspector Sorenson Violation Cited: NFPA 1 (4.5.8.1) 06-22-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 07-28-09 07-28-09 SOY 07-28-09 NOH Meeting Date: 08-25-09 07-28-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail 08-25-09 CO Given until 09-04-09 to comply or be fmed $lOO/per day, per violation 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail Observation: Fire Extinguisher out of date. Inspector Sorenson gave a brief history of the case and stated this is a repeat violator. He further stated on September 4, 2009, the property was brought into compliance but city is asking for administrative cost of $389.80. Vice Chair M. Godek. seconded bv Member Lowerv. moved in Case No. 09-225 to find the respondents in violation as cited as of Julv 15. 2009. but in compliance as of September 4, 2009, and no fine be assessed at this time: however. the respondents be ordered to vav the administrative cost of $389.80. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Case No. 09-232 - K & B Maguire, LLC 11010 W. Colonial Drive Officer Siegrist Violation Cited: 115-5 07-02-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 07-16-09 08-03-09 SOY 08-03-09 NOH Meeting Date: 08-25-09 Page 3 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 09-01-09 OC Regular & Certified Mail 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail 09-15-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed or grass growth. Officer Siegrist gave a brief history of the case and provided exhibits. He further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. Member Elliott. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved in Case No. 09-232 to find the respondents in violation as cited as of Julv 15. 2009. and to be $liven until October 9. 2009. to complv or be fined $100/per dav thereafter. Member Elliott. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved to amend the vrevious motion in Case No. 09-232 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as of Julv 15, 2009. and to be $liven until October 9. 2009. to comvlv or be fined $100/per dav thereafter. Also authorize the City to abate the nuisance and add the cost of the abatement to the fine. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-240 - InTouch Wireless 9401 W. Colonial Drive. Ste 244 Inspector Sorenson Violation Cited: NFPA 1 (4.5.8), NFPA 1 (14.13.1.3) 08-11-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 08-18-09 08-21-09 SOY 08-21-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 08-21-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail Observation: Exit lights and emergency lights. Fire Inspector Sorenson gave a brief history of the case. He further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. Vice Chair M. Godek asked for Inspector Sorenson to please review the violations that were cited. Member Osborne. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved in Case Number 09-240 to find the respondents in violation ofNFPA ](4.5.8) and (]4. 13. 1.3) as of AUflUst 17.2009, and be $liven until October 7. 2009. to comvlv or be fined $100/ver dav ver violation thereafter as well as anv administrative cost. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Case No. 09-242 - Thomas Moore III and Kern V. Moore 422 E. Lakesbore Drive Officer Delgado Violation Cited: 115-5 08-27-09 NOCV 08-27-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 08-27-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Repeat Violation Officer Delgado gave a brief history of the case and provided exhibits. She further stated, this is a repeat violation, and this case was presented back in May of 2009. As of today, the Page 4 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 property is in compliance. Vice Chair M. Godek. seconded bv Member Elliott. moved in Case No. 09-242 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as a reveat violator as of August 21. 2009. and in compliance as ofSevtember 22.2009. and be fined $200. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-248 - Michael Jones & Rhonda Jones 5008 Timber Ridge Trail Officer Rodriguez Violation Cited: 115-5 08-11-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 08-19-09 08-31-09 SOY 08-31-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 08-31-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Officer Rodriguez gave a brief history of the case and provided exhibits. She further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. There is no active water account open, so city is asking for abatement. Member Lowerv. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-248 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as of AUflUst 18. 2009. and be $liven until October 9. 2009. to comvlv or be fined $100/per day. Also authorize the city to abate the nuisance and add cost of abatement to the fine. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Case No. 09-257 - Anthony Pittala and Rachel Pittala 1905 Lochshyre Loop Officer Rodriguez Violation Cited: 115-5 06-22-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 07-28-09 07-28-09 SOY 07-28-09 NOH Meeting Date: 08-25-09 07-28-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Officer Rodriguez gave a brief history of the case with exhibits. She further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. Property is vacant and in process of foreclosure, so city is asking for abatement. Member Elliott. seconded bv Member Lowerv. moved in Case Number 09-257 to find the respondents in violation as cited as of August 20. 2009, and be given until October 7. 2009. to comvlv or be fined $100/ver day. Also authorize the city to abate the nuisance and add cost of abatement to the fine. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Page 5 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 Case No. 09-258 - Eugene F. Middlehof and Mavald M. Middlehof 2717 Plumberry Avenue Officer Rodriguez Violation Cited: 115-5 08-18-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 08-24-09 08-31-09 SOY 08-31-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 08-31-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Officer Rodriguez gave a brief history of the case with exhibits. She further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. Tenants are currently living on the property Member HODDer. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-258 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as of AU$lust 23. 2009. and be given until October 9, 2009. to comvlv or be fined $100/ver dav thereafter. Motion carried unanimous/v. Case No. 09-264 - LN Silverstar LLC 1800 E. Silverstar Road Violation Cited: 115-5 08-18-09 NOCV 08-31-09 NOH 08-31-09 POS 09-11-09 POS Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Repeat Violation. Officer Rodriguez Re-Inspection Date: REPEAT Meeting Date: 09-22-09 Regular and Certified Mail Officer Rodriguez gave a brief history of the case with exhibits. She further stated this is a repeat violator and, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. Lee Najjar, property owner, stated that the person he had maintaining the land had gotten ill and he just needs more time to correct the problem. He further stated he just returned from overseas this week and went right away to speak with Officer Rodriguez and Butch Stanley about getting an extension. Member Lowery inquired if they could be in compliance by the end of the week. Mr. Najjar stated he could be in compliance by next week. Member Hopper stated he understands that he was overseas but ultimately he is responsible for the property and needs to have someone maintain the property. Vice Chair M. Godek. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved in Case No. 09-264 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as a repeat violator as of August 18, 2009. and be given until October 2, 2009. to comvlv or be fined $200/ ver dav thereafter. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Page 6 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 Case No. 09-267 - MFCS Investors 100 Blackwood Ave. Officer Delgado Violation Cited: 115-7 08-26-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: REPEAT 08-27-09 SOY 08-27-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 08-27-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail Observation: Duty of Property Owner. Repeat Violation. Officer Delgado gave a brief history of the case and stated this is a repeat violation that was presented in July of 2009. She further stated, as of today, the property is in compliance. Officer Delgado stated she came up with an administrative cost of $385.95 for time put into this case. Member Elliott. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-267 to find the resvondents in violation as cited as a repeat violator as of AUflUst 24. 2009, but in compliance as ofSevtember 22.2009. and be fined $500. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-274 - Hiroko and James S. Cothern 477 Northern Durango Officer Loeffler Violation Cited: 115-5, 115-6, and 115-3 08-21-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 09-09-09 09-09-09 SOY 09-09-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 09-09-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail Observation: Excessive grass/weed growth, abandoned or unsafe swimming pool, and prohibited acts. Officer Loeffier gave a brief history of the case with exhibits. He further stated, as of today, the property is in non-compliance. The home is vacant and the city is seeking abatement. Member Lowerv. seconded bv Member Elliott. moved in Case Number 09-274 to find the respondents in violation as cited as ofSevtember 8, 2009, and be $liven until October 7. 2009, to comvlv or be fined $100/per dav ver violation thereafter. Also authorize the City to abate the nuisance and add the cost of abatement to the fine. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-277 - James & Jane Tejera 1400 Little Spring Hill Officer Loeffler Violation Cited: 115-5 07-24-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 08-04-09 09-11-09 SOY 09-11-09 NOH Meeting Date: 09-22-09 09-11-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail Observation: Excessive weed or grass growth. Officer Loeffier gave a brief history of the case with exhibits. He further stated, as of August 27, 2009, the property was brought into compliance by the city for a cost of $100. Staff is seeking cost of abatement and administrative cost for a total of $175.00. Page 7 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 Member Lowerv. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-277 to find the respondents in violation as cited as of AUflUst 3, 2009. but in comvliance as of August 27, 2009. and no fine be assessed; however. the resvondents be ordered to vav the administrative cost of $175. Motion carried unanimous Iv. OTHER BUSINESS Case No. 09-032F - Patricia Marie Czarkecke 54 Rewis Street Division Chief Stanley Violation Cited: 108-7,108-19 (1),108-23 (D) (E 1&2) (F) (I) (J) (M 1&2) (N 1&2) (R) (S), 108-35 02-19-09 NOCV Re-Inspection Date: 03-05-09 03-05-09 SOY 03-05-09 NOH 03-05-09 POS 03-05-09 POS 05-26-09 OC 06-23-09 OC 06-26-09 POS 08-03-09 OC 08-03-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail Observation: A fire hazard and nuisance/public nuisance. Meeting Date: 03-24-09 Certified Mail Posting Regular Mail Regular & Certified Mail In compliance. Case No. 09-155 - David Crawford 2243 Laurel Blossom Circle Violation Cited: 115-5 06-12-09 NOCV 06-23-09 SOY 06-23-09 NOH 06-23-09 POS 08-03-09 OC 08-03-09 POS 08-13-09 POS 08-25-09 CO Officer Rodriguez Re- Inspection Date: 06-16-09 Meeting Date: 07-28-09 Regular & Certified Mail Regular & Certified Mail Regular & Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day & authorize the city to abate and add costs to fme 09-02-09 POS Regular and Certified Mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Officer Rodriguez stated that this case is to impose fine. Member HODDer. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-155 to impose fine of $1 OO/per dav effective Sevtember 12, 2009, until comvliance. Motion carried unanimous Iv. Page 8 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 Case No. 09-160 - Diana Guyadeen 3001 Spicenut Court Violation Cited: 115-5 06-12-09 NOCV 06-23-09 SOY 06-23-09 NOH 06-23-09 POS 08-03-09 OC 08-03-09 POS 08-13-09 POS 08-25-09 CO Officer Rodriguez Re-Inspection Date: 06-18-09 Meeting Date: 07-28-09 Regular & Certified Mail Regular & Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day & authorize city to abate and add costs to fme 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed and grass growth. Officer Rodriguez stated this is in compliance because the city mowed the lawn; however, there were four days that the property was accruing fees. The total amount due with abatement, administrative fees, and per day accrual is $640. Member Elliott. seconded bv Vice Chair M. Godek. moved in Case Number 09-160 to imvose fine 0($640. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-168 - Joseph H. & Evelyn Kraus 3419 Bromfield Drive Violation Cited: 115-5 06-19-09 NOCV 06-29-09 SOY 06-29-09 NOH 06-29-09 POS 08-03-09 OC 08-03-09 POS 08-13-09 POS 08-25-09 CO Officer Rodriguez Re-Inspection Date: 06-25-09 Meeting Date: 07-28-09 Regular & Certified Mail Regular & Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day & authorize the city to abate and add costs to fme 08-31-09 AC 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail Observation: Excessive weed or grass growth. Case No. 09-229 - Wendell Skinner 6914 Cross Cut Court Violation Cited: 115-5 06-29-09 NOCV 07-30-09 SOY 07-30-09 NOH 07-30-09 POS 08-14-09 POS 08-25-09 CO In compliance. Officer Rodriguez Re-Inspection Date: 07-22-09 Meeting Date: 08-25-09 Regular and Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day Page 9 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 09-02-09 POS 09-011-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive weed/grass growth. Officer Rodriguez stated that this case is to impose fine. Member HODDer. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved in Case Number 09-229 to imvose fine of $100/ver dav effective Sevtember 12. 2009, until compliance. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-230 - Kathleen Whalen 5061 Sawdust Circle Violation Cited: 115-5 06-29-09 NOCV 07-30-09 SOY 07-30-09 NOH 07-30-09 POS 08-14-09 POS 08-25-09 CO Officer Rodriguez Re-Inspection Date: 07-22-09 Meeting Date: 08-25-09 Regular and Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day & authorize the city to abate and add costs to fme 09-02-09 POS Regular & Certified Mail 09-11-09 POS Posting Observation: Excessive grass/weed growth. Officer Rodriguez stated that this case is to impose fine. Member Elliott. seconded bv Member HODDer. moved in Case Number 09-230 to impose fine of $100/per dav effective Sevtember 12, 2009, until compliance. Motion carried unanimouslv. Case No. 09-233 - P Rhoden 2436 Johio Bay Drive Violation Cited: 115-5 07-16-09 NOCV 08-03-09 SOY 08-03-09 NOH 08-03-09 POS 08-13-09 POS 08-25-09 CO Officer Delgado Re-Inspection Date: 07-29-09 Meeting Date: 08-25-09 Regular and Certified Mail Posting Given until 09-11-09 to comply or be fmed $1 OO/per day & authorize the city to abate and add costs to fme Regular & Certified Mail 09-02-09 POS 09-16-09 AC Observation: Excessive weed or grass growth. Officer Delgado stated there is an affidavit of compliance for this case. She further stated she has their compliance date as of September 16, 2009, even though the board gave them until September 11, 2009, because she was on vacation and that was the earliest she could go out to do an inspection. The respondent did not call her for are-inspection. Page 10 of 11 Code Enforcement Board Minutes September 22, 2009 Member Osborne. seconded bv Member Lowerv, moved in Case Number 09-233 to take no action to impose fine. Motion carried unanimous Iv. COMMENTS Member Hopper announced he is a new grandfather to a new baby girl. He further stated he noticed that everyone presented their cases very well tonight and he really appreciates that because it makes it a lot easier for them. Member Lowery stated he agrees with Member Hopper on their great job. Chairman Godek announced that the Ocoee Firefighters won the Local Firefighters' Challenge and will be on there way to Las Vegas for the Finals. To help them along with expenses for their trip Texas Roadhouse is giving 10% oftheir proceeds on September 28th. ADJOURNMENT Meeting adjourned at 8:14 p.m. Page 11 of 11